Do you recommend slowplaying KK and AA on you're first 3-bet? Table 3
90% of the time I 3-bet a tag for the first time they fold. I know that makes for good argument to
3-bet bluff them 1 or 2 times before you are dealt a monster, but how do you feel about just flatting
when you haven't 3-bet them yet?
No way. This player I have 1.8k FR hands on. We play 6-max together as well. There's a lot of history between us. As I mention, he isn't into folding vs me so flatting misses a ton of value.
Same hand, Table 3
You said you wouldn't be surprised if you were raised on the flop. the Board was like 7xxr kind of dry. Would you flat a raise, or just jam in to stack TT-QQ?
He probably doesn't have those in this range. He'd likely 4-bet shove them pre. Thus, he's much more likely on a bluff so I probably flat or 3-bet small to induce a bluff shove.
Table 4 you were thinking about check raising Gilad as a bluff with 99.
If Gilad had AK/AQ on the A high board in that situation and thought he could continue because you had enough bluffs or weird raises with worse hands, I think Gillad can only call your flop check raise, it would be insane to do anything else right?
I think that's where I was going with it, but looking at the hand now it's probably better to OOP float as a bluff.
Table 2, glissdady 3-bet you bvb you had TT and were planning on getting it in, if you had 22-99 how would you react to that 3-bet?
Of course. 4-bet/folding TT vs a guy who is very in my face pre-flop sounds insane.
I'd probably flat 99 and 88.
Table 2 we open 84s otb, and I think a fish is in the blind. Aren't we supposed to be ditching speculative hands w/out SD value against loose passive or loose aggressive fish since they are harder to bluff post flop?
The problem with this line of thought is we are labeling 84s "speculative". It's a label I never use because it's not descriptive at all. It doesn't talk about type of hands we are going to flop/turn. It just implies that we have big hands on the river a lot. That's interesting, but the flop is pretty important so using a term that completely neglects it, in a roundabout way, kind of neglects the flop. It puts the emphasis on making a big hand and implies that nothing else good came come from this hand. Thus we should fold the hand pre-flop, right?
Let's talk about what this hand really does. This hand will flop a lot of draws and a lot of medium strength pairs. Draws will be good to bluff with and it will be easy to bluff a player who has nothing most of the time. We still get paid when we hit them too. Also, a pair like 8x is going to be a hand we can value bet (because since the player has nothing he will give us some FE and still call with hands that 8x will beat). Same thing goes to a lesser degree with 4x.
Players like this just give you a lot of equity in both pot and fold. They don't have much, so they fold a lot. But they still call with trashy hands, even though they fold a lot, so we still have decent equity when we get call. It's very much a best of both worlds, so we should play a lot of hands. It's a great situation.
On Table 4 in the 3-bet pot....I like Gillad's Turn Check against you with AK. If he considers you to be a good player and not a station, how likely is it that he's going to get 3-streets of value?
I agree, but do you really think I'm folding KQ on the turn? Hard for me to find a fold with that hand. What about QQ? He certainly gets value playing his hand this way, but he gives me a free card and doesn't really get "better" value unless I'm bluffing and it's hard for him to give me credit for a lot of bluffs on this board texture. He also checked the top of his range, so his range gets very weighted towards bluffs in the future.