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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by chipchucker5 (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:47:19

Why are you c/ring so big? 200 wouldn't be enough?

in that last 99 hand, arent u leading all ur strong hands and bluffs on river? so when u C/R it leaves weak hands turned into bluffs and its a easy snapcall for him with his Kx hands, and he cant have that many Kings, Jx bets the turn, Tx doesnt bet riv, so shouldnt u just call this bet and see him having alot of junk that decided to bluff cause u checked twice

In hand 1: Not quite sure why you think anyone would ever fold 9x + when they get c/r on the turn here. It's a spot where you rep so little and with alot of those hands you're going to flat again on this good bluffing card. Not saying it's not a profitable c/r but if he's any good you're getting him off pretty much no better hands and he'll shove big draws.

Edit: OOps this was for episode 2.Still you get the point.

Time Link to 00:10:06

Would you be calling KQ here on the turn? Given that KJ just got there and if you had KQ he could have the Ax of clubs flush draws which he likely bets. If you are calling KQ, where do you draw the line, whats the best hand you are folding?

Time Link to 00:13:27

If he 3 bets 97s shouldn't that be 0 combos as opposed to 4 as he flatted pre?

If you completely discount 97s it is still a fold though so it doesn't affect the outcome of the analysis.

Time Link to 00:24:07

How do you feel about that thought process with JJ here? How do you think he should play JJ in this situation (both preflop and later streets) if you disagree with the thought process you outlined here?

Time Link to 00:46:46

Is it totally ridiculous to have AQ here? I can see flatting AQ here preflop being good to try to bring the fish into the pot, and is it really ridiculous to peel once with AQ on this dry board when buttons cbetting range has so much air in it? Or are you just folding because it will be very difficult to get to showdown with that hand and it will result in you having too wide of a flop peeling range?

Really, really enjoyed the video. Think the hands shown can be very eye opening and love the detailed talk about ranges and especially the math. Would love to see this type of math become much more popular in videos. Looking forward to your future videos.

What do you think about just folding the flop in Hand 1? It seems weak, but given the range you assigned him it's going to be really hard to get to showdown if he continues his aggression. We're up against a range of value hands that have us in bad shape and draws that have decent equity vs us. Having the Ac also reduces a lot of his club semi bluffing combos.

Even as played, we actually improved to top two and are strongly considering folding. Not sure what runout we're looking for exactly; I guess we're mostly hoping he just slows down at some pt?

Why are you c/ring so big? 200 wouldn't be enough?

it is kinda big yeah..think 200 is a tad small..like 225 or so seems about right.

in that last 99 hand, arent u leading all ur strong hands and bluffs on river? so when u C/R it leaves weak hands turned into bluffs and its a easy snapcall for him with his Kx hands, and he cant have that many Kings, Jx bets the turn, Tx doesnt bet riv, so shouldnt u just call this bet and see him having alot of junk that decided to bluff cause u checked twice

calling def has merit here since there really aren't many hands he's vbetting. However, there are def some Kx hands in his range, so I'm happy to sort of "cover my bases" and get him to fold those in addition to all of his bluffs. No I'm not leading all my strong hands on the river at all actually. How am I supposed to have air when I lead river there? I just think he folds like everything when we lead river there, plus he bets Kx when checked to so we're really not missing value vs anything by checking, so checking w/ strong hands is far superior there imo.

Would you be calling KQ here on the turn? Given that KJ just got there and if you had KQ he could have the Ax of clubs flush draws which he likely bets. If you are calling KQ, where do you draw the line, whats the best hand you are folding?

I would be folding KQ but calling w/ QJ since QJ is double gutter and he's rarely c/ring KQ and then barreling that turn imo, so QJ seems like the worst hand we should be calling while KQ is best hand we're folding.

If he 3 bets 97s shouldn't that be 0 combos as opposed to 4 as he flatted pre?

If you completely discount 97s it is still a fold though so it doesn't affect the outcome of the analysis.

Yeah, that was a mistake..I'd still give him a couple combos of it tho just because people do flat it sometimes and I gave him 2/3 of the T8s combos, so to be consistent I should give him some 97s as well.

How do you feel about that thought process with JJ here? How do you think he should play JJ in this situation (both preflop and later streets) if you disagree with the thought process you outlined here?

I really don't mind it honestly. I think given positions pf is good, altho i think shoving or min 5betting is also fine. If it were a LP situation I think it's a clear get it in pf spot.

Postflop is tricky but against me it's obv a really good play to c/r here because I'm never folding any OESD, FD and even AK/AQ. And it's gonna be tough to play well on a lot of board runouts when I'm going to bluffing w/ a good frequency and taking advantage of free cards when the situation warrants it. He's also gonna be c/ring all his draws, so it seems good from a balance perspective as well.

Is it totally ridiculous to have AQ here? I can see flatting AQ here preflop being good to try to bring the fish into the pot, and is it really ridiculous to peel once with AQ on this dry board when buttons cbetting range has so much air in it? Or are you just folding because it will be very difficult to get to showdown with that hand and it will result in you having too wide of a flop peeling range?

Yeah, I'm never flatting AQ there. I do'nt want btn to be thinking he can just play as many hands he wants when IP vs the fish..he needs to know that I'm gonna be going to war w/ him if he doesn't stay in line. So you really wanna still be 3betting a fairly wide range here if btn is still opening wide (which he should be opening even wider than usual..hence why u wanna be pounding on him).

I meeeean, c/c AQ wouldn't be insane by any means, I'm just not crazy about it. If the board were a little less connected and/or if we had a BDFD then I think it's fine.

What do you think about just folding the flop in Hand 1? It seems weak, but given the range you assigned him it's going to be really hard to get to showdown if he continues his aggression. We're up against a range of value hands that have us in bad shape and draws that have decent equity vs us. Having the Ac also reduces a lot of his club semi bluffing combos.

Even as played, we actually improved to top two and are strongly considering folding. Not sure what runout we're looking for exactly; I guess we're mostly hoping he just slows down at some pt?

I mean, we're hoping for a runout better than this one which is like the worst one possible. I think in a bu vs bb situation, folding the flop is too weak unless you have a rock solid read on someone that they just like never c/r bluff w/ these stacks on coordinated boards. But basically everyone c/rs KJ and any clubs here. So I'm fine w/ seeing a turn and seeing if he slows down. A lot of people will c/r, and then even barrel turn a decent amt, but will shutdown on river because they figure we have like QJ at the absolute worst and can obv have any set, two pair, J9, KK/AA etc.

Really, really enjoyed the video. Think the hands shown can be very eye opening and love the detailed talk about ranges and especially the math. Would love to see this type of math become much more popular in videos. Looking forward to your future videos.

Thanks a lot TheGeek, glad you enjoyed it

Yeah, I'm never flatting AQ there. I do'nt want btn to be thinking he can just play as many hands he wants when IP vs the fish..he needs to know that I'm gonna be going to war w/ him if he doesn't stay in line. So you really wanna still be 3betting a fairly wide range here if btn is still opening wide (which he should be opening even wider than usual..hence why u wanna be pounding on him).

I meeeean, c/c AQ wouldn't be insane by any means, I'm just not crazy about it. If the board were a little less connected and/or if we had a BDFD then I think it's fine.

Cool. How then do you balance between flatting some big value hands to keep the fish in the BB in vs 3 betting those to keep the BTN in line? Would you maybe flat the very top of your range like AA/KK and some stuff that you don't really want to get in pre like KQ, QJ, AT etc. and 3 bet something like 22-QQ, AK, AQ or something with 5 betting in mind?

Obviously I understand you don't want to give away your specific range in those spots but I'd love to read a little on what our options are, what adjustments would be good and what would be bad.

Thanks.

Yeah I mean, don't wanna give too much of my ranges away (gotta save something for the lessons ) but I wouldn't be flatting AA/KK. Flatting some of the big SCs and suited broadways is def good altho id still be 3betting like KJs/AJs really often. Something to keep in mind is that fish like to play lots of pots..so there's a decent chance he just cold calls the 3b w/ 97s or w/e anyway, so ur really missing out on playing big pots w/ dominating hands against him by trying to "keep him in."

Cool, thank you for the answer. I must admit flatting some big hands is something I do in order to try to increase the chance a fish comes along and spikes top pair or something and pays me off for a stack. Judging from what you just posted, just 3 betting the same kind of value range as normal and maybe increasing your calling range with medium strength hands would be better?

Time Link to 00:46:18

99 hand: Would this be your preferred line with 98? My kneejerk would be to xr it on flop and I'd expect a lot of ppl to do that too so just got me thinking. otoh it's a pretty dry board so do you have much of a xr-range at all (I guess assuming vacuumish situation)?

Time Link to 00:28:42

all this math is a little confusing to me. you say you have 10.2% fold equity so what exactly are you getting out of that. could you explain how the math works and why it is important to these situations more please.

Time Link to 00:47:00

Again with the river check raise, I don't see how we can rep that much of a hand. I understand his range is weak but ours looks even weaker. When you say Tx makes a lot of sense for him (on the turn after he checked), would you expect him to bet the river? We really don't, and I think he knows this because betting flop and checking back turn is a stereotypical sign of weakness in NLHE. Given that, he will just expect us to lead river with our value hands (because it looks like he gave up / is checking back river) and check our marginal hands hoping he checks behind. We should very rarely have a hand we're check raising for value here unless I'm really missing something.

On the turn I don't really agree that he is still barreling AQ or AK. What's our perceived flatting range in the SB with the fish in BB? Small pairs for set value (22-99), things like JTs and maybe 89s, KQ for sure, maybe QJ/KJ. Lots of hands that we would/could 3bet but aren't because of the fish in the BB (assuming this guy is a fish). Of that range on the flop, 22,33,44,66 are either check/folding or occasionally check/raising (to take it down)... very rarely check/calling. So then of our range on the turn, the only marginal hands left (i.e. the ones he could theoretically expect us to fold to a turn barrel) are 88 and 99, and as you said even those probably aren't folding right there. The rest of our range is top pair (QJ,KJ, maybe AJ) straights (89s), 2 pair (JT), sets (77 & 55 mostly), and KQ.... so he could be expecting us to check/raise the turn a ton of the time or at least be check/calling with our top pairs, making a turn barrel really not that profitable. So it's possible in my opinion that he's giving up with AQ/AK some of the time ...... he also might have checked back KQ, thinking that he doesnt want to get check raised off a hand that has so many outs.

I guess what I'm thinking on the river after he bets is that his range is KQ, AQ, AK, Kxdd, Axdd. With AQ he 3bet jams, Axdd he snap folds... the rest he could potentially look us up with given our line doesnt really look that credible (at least to me it wouldnt). Even with all of this analysis this still might be a good spot to check raise for the simple fact that generally speaking, people don't check raise bluff on the river. Given that he tanked he probably thought something was going on here so I would be hesitant to just assume that we're very credible here, especially once people catch you doing this.