You guys should prolly take the vid down ASAP if Quad Deuces doesn't want his screenname to be known. Hint: Look at the tables' titlebars.
Nolan kicks off his new series with a 6-tabling live sesssion with his new student, the new kid, QuadDeuces.
As always there is a new kid in town and Nolan sees to it that he is taken care of helping him through small stakes and mid stakes Full Ring games.
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You guys should prolly take the vid down ASAP if Quad Deuces doesn't want his screenname to be known. Hint: Look at the tables' titlebars.
You guys should prolly take the vid down ASAP if Quad Deuces doesn't want his screenname to be known. Hint: Look at the tables' titlebars.
And the lobby. And the HUD. And the dealer chat.
No reason to hide, though.
So... where's the rest of the video? Ends kinda suddenly, no "cya" or anything ;>
In all honesty, I think it's pretty unfair to try to hide heros sceenname, but not the ones of the other players at the tables. And yeah, video just ends while hero is in a hand.
Content-wise i'm not sure if it's very helpful for NL25 players to hear a coach say "i don't know if this is good at that level", but at all i think it's still lot's of good stuff for micro stake players.
Kooking forward to see some small/midstakes at seasons end.
The ending here is quite abrupt. There is still quite a few tidbits for review. What I missed is conversation regarding range balancing. In regards to the 76o hand where a squeeze is recommended, how often should that type of play be made? Does it even matter at these stakes?
Lastly, it does seem like having the best hand going to the river on Full Tilt is a death sentence.
Quad wasn't concerned about hiding his screenname. There was another member I was going to potentially work with on this series who was adamant about hiding his screenname, and our producers probably just reacted by blurring out all sn's in the video.
So... where's the rest of the video? Ends kinda suddenly, no "cya" or anything ;>
I'm not sure what happened here. The video I recorded was 45 minutes long, it was perhaps a production error that cut it off so short. I would expect DC will be able to furnish the last five minutes fairly soon. Sorry about this.
What I missed is conversation regarding range balancing.
If the games have not totally changend over the last two years, range balancing is nothing you need to worry about when playing NL25.
While I think squeezing 76o in the BB has def. some merits, I'm not sure how a squeeze fits Nolans recommendation of playing solid straightforward poker without getting fancy. This is a spot where "fold" should be the standard play and squeezing could be an option depending on BU/SB tendencies, stacksizes and hero's comfort of playing big pots out of position.
Content-wise i'm not sure if it's very helpful for NL25 players to hear a coach say "i don't know if this is good at that level", but at all i think it's still lot's of good stuff for micro stake players.
While I understand it appears a bit unprofessional for me to state that I do not know the best option for certain situations that may arise at the smaller stakes, I would like to note that I still possess reasonable knowledge of basic game theory and bet sizing overall that could probably benefit most members.
There are still situations that I encounter every day where I frankly don't know what to do, and you will find that my results compared to some of my competitors in this field as far as volume and hours played are concerned fare pretty well. I would rather be honest about spots where I do not have strong opinions or knowledge than attempt to sweep such things under the rug. At the very least, it can foster positive discussion.
There's a tradeoff herein. Where a coach who is a 50nl or 100nl regular will have a better grasp of how the 25nl games play, his actual game theory, game mechanics, and overall knowledge pertaining to betting and poker in general will likely be quite lesser compared to someone who plays much higher but is doing a video at the micros. I would encourage you to seek out micro videos from both players whose main games are much higher and more centered and near the stake being played.
Hope that wasn't too much of a tangent.
If the games have not totally changend over the last two years, range balancing is nothing you need to worry about when playing NL25.
While I think squeezing 76o in the BB has def. some merits, I'm not sure how a squeeze fits Nolans recommendation of playing solid straightforward poker without getting fancy. This is a spot where "fold" should be the standard play and squeezing could be an option depending on BU/SB tendencies, stacksizes and hero's comfort of playing big pots out of position.
Thanks Madlex,
you said this better than I could have myself. 76o Squeezes at 25nl are something I think you should only do under strict circumstances. Even then I would consider it "experimental practice" for higher stakes over the horizon.
wow this is great, are you planning moving up in stakes a bit? NL50-100?
While I understand it appears a bit unprofessional for me to state that I do not know the best option for certain situations that may arise at the smaller stakes, I would like to note that I still possess reasonable knowledge of basic game theory and bet sizing overall that could probably benefit most members.
Honestly, I don't know how to approach spots that are that limit-dependant and think it's certainly better on your part to say "I'm not sure at NL25" than giving possibly bad advice.
Alltogether, I didn't wanted to sound harsh or criticize the way you made this video. tbh I prob. wouldn't even watch an NL25 video if it wasn't made by Dan or you.
wow this is great, are you planning moving up in stakes a bit? NL50-100?
yes
I am on it. Hold on for further updates.
-Rusty
Ok so technical error occured with the program as will happen with larger videos (i.e. multitabling) and it cut ooff approx 10mins of video. I am reproducing now without the blur and it will be up in a couple hours.
As for blurring in general there are times when students don't want their information given out and we respect that. Much like allowing people to label themselves as "hero" in hand replayer without changing the names of all the villians.
-Rusty
You guys should prolly take the vid down ASAP if Quad Deuces doesn't want his screenname to be known. Hint: Look at the tables' titlebars.
Not a problem. I gave the OK to show screenname. Producers must have made the decision. Whatever.
If the games have not totally changend over the last two years, range balancing is nothing you need to worry about when playing NL25.
While I think squeezing 76o in the BB has def. some merits, I'm not sure how a squeeze fits Nolans recommendation of playing solid straightforward poker without getting fancy. This is a spot where "fold" should be the standard play and squeezing could be an option depending on BU/SB tendencies, stacksizes and hero's comfort of playing big pots out of position.
Not sure how it came across but the way I understood Nolan's advice was:
1. Don't call with 76o. Folding is better.
2. If I play it at all in this spot it should be as a squeeze but folding is probably better at NL25 unless I have good read on PFR as high fold to 3B/high fold to CBet in 3B Pot.
wow this is great, are you planning moving up in stakes a bit? NL50-100?
:-)
Looking forward to the move up!
I have no problem with Nolan saying things like "I'm not 100% sure at this stake" as I have recently gone from 2nl to 100nl on full tilt and every single level had big differences which are impossible to know by someone who has not played there recently.
The best way to go about tackling these issues is to fall back on basic poker theory which Nolan does so well, then adjust as you learn more about the specifics of the level.
Even then I would consider it "experimental practice" for higher stakes over the horizon.
I think this last point is quite significant. I am way overrolled for NL25 so why am I still at NL25? I recognize my skills need a lot more improvement.
Spots such as experimenting (at NL25) with 3B'ing 76o if the situation seems right allows me to get experience in tough spots without doing too much damage to my bankroll.
Honestly, I don't know how to approach spots that are that limit-dependant and think it's certainly better on your part to say "I'm not sure at NL25" than giving possibly bad advice.
One of the best things about Nolan's advice is the "I don't knows." Poker is not a game of black and white. I think Nolan does a great job of putting the case for the different options in a given spot. To move up, I think I need to get more comfortable with tough spots. Plus, when Nolan says "don't do that" it carries a lot more weight because I know he really means it!
While I think squeezing 76o in the BB has def. some merits, I'm not sure how a squeeze fits Nolans recommendation of playing solid straightforward poker without getting fancy. This is a spot where "fold" should be the standard play and squeezing could be an option depending on BU/SB tendencies, stacksizes and hero's comfort of playing big pots out of position.
Nolan did say "90% of the time fold". But there were situation specifics with a read that the PFR would fold to 3B and the second player might call a 3B and play fit/fold on the flop.
As luck would have it I 3B QQ the very next hand so this (QQ) spot would have been much more likely to get action with 2 3B's in a row.
Re: Check HEM for results of raising AJ in EP
Nolan
Over the last 50K hands raising AJ in EP. I'm a big winner with AJs (50BB/100 over 55 hands) but a big loser with AJo (-227BB/100 over 127 hands).
Comments? Fold both?
I have recently gone from 2nl to 100nl on full tilt.
Well done! How many buy-ins did you use as a bankroll management rule when moving up?
20 at lower levels, 30ish for moving up to 50 and 100. Only really comfortable at 100 with 50+buyins.
IMO AJo is a fold in EP at stakes below 100, where it may become profitable. AJs is ok as long as your post flop game is quite good. Keep in mind I don't consider it a big thing either way so if you are uncomfortable with it I would err on the side of being more tight.
IMO AJo is a fold in EP at stakes below 100, where it may become profitable. AJs is ok as long as your post flop game is quite good. Keep in mind I don't consider it a big thing either way so if you are uncomfortable with it I would err on the side of being more tight.
What about NL100 makes AJo in EP more playable? Wouldn't you be more likely to get 3B by IP Villains than at lower stakes even if the tables are nittier?
Ok so after reproducing the file numerous times I finally got a working copy and the new versions are up.
-Rusty
Ok so after reproducing the file numerous times I finally got a working copy and the new versions are up.
-Rusty
Thanks Taz. I've DL'ed and vid plays full length now.
Ok so after reproducing the file numerous times I finally got a working copy and the new versions are up.
-Rusty
TY.
FWIW: I wouldn't have mentioned the "i don't know", had I known that Nolan does it himself at the end of the video. But that part wasn't out when i watched the vid yesterday.
Sidenote: Someone could change the "Video Details No Limit Hold 'Em Micro/Small Stakes, 39 min long" to 45 min long.
Great video. I play 10$ and 25$ frnl and I open AJo utg all day. It probably sounds crazy to anybody who hasn't played at these limits in a while, but it folds back to me about 75% of the time. The guys who call you tend to do so behind, dominated or hoping to crack something big and are looking to play fit or fold. At this point in time most of the micros player pool thinks: tight player + ep raise = big hand, and they play accordingly. You open AJo utg in order to punish tight folds and weak calls and to add a little air to a very polarized range. It's not a value hand and it can't take any heat. Like QuadDeuces said in the video, you can open any 2 utg and you'll mostly get a bunch of auto-folds.
I play 10$ and 25$ frnl and I open AJo utg all day.
Can you check HEM/PT and verify your profitability with AJo from UTG? I was surpised to see I was a big loser with it. I think I only got out of line with it once in 50K hands but it wiped out all the profit.
Over a small sample it AJo utg broke a little better than even for me. AJ is doing better than AQ is on the same sample and overall and I'm not open folding that utg. Is 88+, ATs+, AJo+ an exploitable utg range? I play tight in ep so I can afford to believe most resistance. If I end up stacking off or losing a big pot, unless I'm on tilt, it will probably be to somebody who would have gotten my money anyways, for whatever reason (maniac/short-stacker ect). I think I'm doing worse with AQ specifically because its a "real hand" and therefore I can overlook my better judgment and put my money in bad and get "coolered" while the AJ hits the muck in many of the same spots with no hesitation. I should probably fold AQ before I do AJ, stats-wise.
Great video. I play 10$ and 25$ frnl and I open AJo utg all day. It probably sounds crazy to anybody who hasn't played at these limits in a while, but it folds back to me about 75% of the time.
So you are basically doingit as a blind steal/bluff...I'd probably rather open hands like T9s that play better post flop than a dominated hand like AJo imo
I think this last point is quite significant. I am way overrolled for NL25 so why am I still at NL25? I recognize my skills need a lot more improvement.
Spots such as experimenting (at NL25) with 3B'ing 76o if the situation seems right allows me to get experience in tough spots without doing too much damage to my bankroll.
But you are also taking shots higher right? I also played 25nl way overrolled but taking shots at 50 and 100nl, now playing mainly 50nl and taking shots at 100 and 200, but still drop down to 25 when hit run bad for a while and need confidence boost and that seems to be working well for me.
"So you are basically doingit as a blind steal/bluff...I'd probably rather open hands like T9s that play better post flop than a dominated hand like AJo imo"
True, but with 10$ and 25$ players you still get a lot of guys who come in with bad aces and hope that you have KK or QQ. AJ has plenty of small pot value compared to t9, plus how are you going to get paid off when t9 hits and he hasn't cracked the big hand he's put you on. Given my ep range, I'm hoping to be put on AJo, that way I may be able to go back to raising Aces in ep at some point. Of course when my image is shot, it's the first hand to go.
So you are basically doingit as a blind steal/bluff...I'd probably rather open hands like T9s that play better post flop than a dominated hand like AJo imo
But you are also taking shots higher right? I also played 25nl way overrolled but taking shots at 50 and 100nl, now playing mainly 50nl and taking shots at 100 and 200, but still drop down to 25 when hit run bad for a while and need confidence boost and that seems to be working well for me.
Yes, I've been taking frequent shots at NL50 with fewer tables (maximum 4 and usually just 2)and much more effort at table selection. I have also taken some one-tabling shots at NL200 but not for quite a while.
When playing at NL25 I vary what I do. Sometimes I play 16 tables and work on my multi-tabling skills and other times I'll play just two tables and work more on my hand-reading and player tendency observing skills. I found I improved rapidly when I took the time to have at least a weekly session 2 tabling.
But you are also taking shots higher right?
Sometimes I deliberately drop all the way down to NL2 and work on playing ABC with no bluffing. I do this if I find too much "fancy play syndrome" creeping into my play. After an hour I can go back to NL25 and play much better.
Is 88+, ATs+, AJo+ an exploitable utg range?
I'll leave it to the coaches to suggest an UTG range but your range would be too loose for me at your stakes.
I'll leave it to the coaches to suggest an UTG range but your range would be too loose for me at your stakes.
Really? I thought it was pretty tight! Like I said, when I open in ep it folds back to me 80% of the time (or so) and the guys who call play very weakly.
Like I said, when I open in ep it folds back to me 80% of the time (or so) and the guys who call play very weakly.
If that's the case, you could open any2 from UTG. Doesn't matter if its AJo or 72o if either everybody folds preflop or to a continuation bet.
But AJo isn't anywhere near a hand you should be comfortable playing a pot from UTG fullring against somewhat competent opponents. Reverse implied odds are huge.
ehh, still wish you`de made a vid yourslef playing stakes like NL50-200 live, but still good ![]()
If that's the case, you could open any2 from UTG. Doesn't matter if its AJo or 72o if either everybody folds preflop or to a continuation bet.
But AJo isn't anywhere near a hand you should be comfortable playing a pot from UTG fullring against somewhat competent opponents. Reverse implied odds are huge.
I don't want to open any two because I'm not looking for much action from ep. I like AJ because I can fold it and it has some pretty good equity. AQ has faired worse so far because I can't fold it as easily. Raising trash, small pairs or sc's in ep is worse since it's hard to get payed off when you hit. I add offsuit broadway cards to my range when I have a lot of fold equity at a table. If people start playing back at me I drop them for stuff that flops big like sc's or small pairs. What do you guys play utg or in ep?
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How is that a good fold? Your getting something like 3 to 1 plus with pos. Few hands ago he started donk leading with 82o with no pair.
How is that a good fold? Your getting something like 3 to 1 plus with pos. Few hands ago he started donk leading with 82o with no pair.
I'm out of postion actually. I have 6 clean outs ==> 14% for 1 card (and Villain has just shown he will fire multiple streets) ==> 7:1 odds and pot is offering only 3:1. Plus Villain has SS so no implied odds. If there was a big stack in the hand I'd call.
As Sean commented, a Nitty fold but OK especially if I was on a lot of tables and looking to avoid marginal spots.
I noticed that you played laggy in the video QuadDeuces, have you been playing the frnl tables that way for a while? Do you play that loose when you have 15 tables open?
Good Vid Nolan
67o Do you think the frequency of the squeeze success - really is adequate compensation for the lack of equity and playablity of 67o? The presence of the fish surely makes the nitty btn open more likely to call than in any other squeeze scenario - i.e. vs both 100bb effective stacks nit btn open and nit SB flats.
I noticed that you played laggy in the video QuadDeuces, have you been playing the frnl tables that way for a while? Do you play that loose when you have 15 tables open?
LOL. No, on 16 tables I play tighter. For the 6-tabling video I think I got laggier and laggier pre-flop as it progressed.
Partly, I was deliberately lagging it up because I thought it might lead to some good discussion. Mostly I figured the tables were getting so tight over time I could steal more loosely before anyone noticed. But Nolan advised I should keep it tighter to minimize the risk of getting played back at by more observant players at the table even if my direct stealing targets don't notice.
I noticed that you played laggy in the video QuadDeuces, have you been playing the frnl tables that way for a while? Do you play that loose when you have 15 tables open?
I think the stats worked out at 18/15 over 554 hands with a 3B of 7%. My usual stats vary widely depending on table conditions, anything from 10/8 up to 25/22.
Good Vid Nolan
67o Do you think the frequency of the squeeze success - really is adequate compensation for the lack of equity and playablity of 67o? The presence of the fish surely makes the nitty btn open more likely to call than in any other squeeze scenario - i.e. vs both 100bb effective stacks nit btn open and nit SB flats.
I "squeezed" (with QQ) the very next hand and the same two Villains both folded.
So, if you're opening range is related to how much attention you can pay to the tables, overall, do you find that you make the most money 16 tabling or playing more attentively on less tables? Also, does the amount of tables you play affect the length of your sessions?
So, if you're opening range is related to how much attention you can pay to the tables, overall, do you find that you make the most money 16 tabling or playing more attentively on less tables? Also, does the amount of tables you play affect the length of your sessions?
This, is a question of balance and life. It's up to the individual.
So, if you're opening range is related to how much attention you can pay to the tables, overall, do you find that you make the most money 16 tabling or playing more attentively on less tables? Also, does the amount of tables you play affect the length of your sessions?
At this stage in my development I can make the most money per hour on fewer tables. As I improve I think I'll make more money on more tables.
I try to take a break every 1 to 1.5 hours and get on all new tables when I restart after my break. This seems to keep my concentration up and stops me from staying too long at tables that have dried up or that I may be losing at for reasons I can't notice or figure out (eg bad seat at otherwise good table).
I have done seesions anwhere in length from 0.5 hour to 26 hours but I find shorter sessions much more profitable for me.
I appreciate that.
But it is equally likely that you hit the bottom of their ranges twice.
Thanks for the responses; I like 1-1.5 hour sessions myself for all the reasons you stated QuadDeuces. Sometimes I play while I'm watching TV or tired but I switch to a limit game or play a single table so if my b game goes into c game I don't lose too much, plus I can put in a lot of hours and it's easy to criticize and think about your own play when you're only on one fr table. Do you guys only play when you're 100% and looking to really focus in and grind or do you look for a weaker game that you can beat comfortably?
Do you guys only play when you're 100% and looking to really focus in and grind or do you look for a weaker game that you can beat comfortably?
I try not to prejudge. I prefer to sit and play a few orbits before deciding whether I'm on my A-game or not and whether the tables are juicy or not.
I appreciate that.
But it is equally likely that you hit the bottom of their ranges twice.
Twice implies less likely but anyway. For me, 76o is not a 3B from the blinds. I agree with the difficulties you state and I don't think I'm good enough to overcome tem at this time.
Pretty off Topic but just out of curiosity. Which part of Australia r u from?
Pretty off Topic but just out of curiosity. Which part of Australia r u from?
Born in Sydney. Currently live in Brisbane. Accent is from country NSW where I grew up.
Nolan / QuadDeuces is there ever going to be a part 2 to this series??? Its been a month and I have been waiting forever. I really enjoy Nolan's FR videos and these are the stakes I am currently playing at. Please put it out soon!
Nolan / QuadDeuces is there ever going to be a part 2 to this series??? Its been a month and I have been waiting forever. I really enjoy Nolan's FR videos and these are the stakes I am currently playing at. Please put it out soon!
Sorry for delay. Vid 2 is in the can but Nolan had to travel to Europe for EPT Tournament in Prague. Bad Internet connection prevented vid from being uploaded to DC so it hasn't been posted as yet. Nolan is not back until the end of the month so earliest Part 2 can be up is early January.
Gotcha, thank you for the update though. Much appreciated
Eh Sorry about that, I should have posted something in the forum or here.
What the hell is going on? This is like the only series I'm watching on dc atm and i get nothing. If Nolan doesn't start producing more FR videos soon Im out of here.
And yea there's a compliment in there somehow..
What the hell is going on? This is like the only series I'm watching on dc atm and i get nothing. If Nolan doesn't start producing more FR videos soon Im out of here.
And yea there's a compliment in there somehow..
There are a full 4 vids already recorded in this series but I'm not the one to know when DC has them scheduled to be published. Sorry.
This site is mostly a 6max site. Dj sensi n Nolan are the only coaches worth watching. Grinderschool has more fullring content than 6max.
Sorry for the kind of short teaser of what I am sure will be a great series. We are currently working on a release schedule for episode 2, and I have just recently received episodes 3 and 4 from Nolan and will produce and work to schedule their release as well. I will talk with Jay (scheduling czar) and push for an episode 2 release in the coming week or so.
-Rusty
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says he thinks he was on a flush draw yet he bets pot which puts the villain all in... you can't possibly expect the villain to call with worse most of the time here for value. The river bet should have been much smaller so that his calling range would have been much wider and would have yielded more value. Plays like this cause the loss of so much value over time. 'gna mean?
says he thinks he was on a flush draw yet he bets pot which puts the villain all in... you can't possibly expect the villain to call with worse most of the time here for value. The river bet should have been much smaller so that his calling range would have been much wider and would have yielded more value. Plays like this cause the loss of so much value over time. 'gna mean?
Do you agree with Nolan's comments to bet bigger earlier in the hand to get value from his flush draws before they fail to hit?
dont get his bet sizing. Raises big with his 10's
At the time I think that was my standard UTG Raise size for my whole range.
Do you agree with Nolan's comments to bet bigger earlier in the hand to get value from his flush draws before they fail to hit?
Easily... When he donks into you for $1 that is an easy raise to $3 or $4 on the flop. A player with his stats will easily pay to see the turn (and in most cases with air) at this level. On the turn he would also almost always call a 1/2 - 3/4 pot bet with many worse hands in his range and thus given you a bonus street of value.
NL25 players *love* to see turns when they have a piece of the board or a draw. Use this to your advantage to gain value by almost always cbetting it when you hit. Later levels, it becomes more profitable to not cbet flops as much play later streets like jongreenway suggests but NL25-100 milk it.
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