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Blah and the Fiend: Episode Six

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Blah and the Fiend: Episode Six by blah234, FoxwoodsFiend

Blah234 and FoxwoodsFiend finish their Jekyll and Hyde review session with this second part of Blah's 4-tabling session.

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From the forums and mocrostakes to mentoring with Ansky, Blah now joins forces with FoxwoodsFiend for a mentor style series to hone his chops with another one of DeucesCracked's finest!

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 56 minutes long
  • Posted over 1 year ago

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zachd2323

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Time Link to 00:08:20

So would you be bet/folding here with an overpair? It seems like you automatically assume he has a set but do you think he doesn't have any semi-bluffs that will also raise the turn?

Posted over 1 year ago

FoxwoodsFiend

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So would you be bet/folding here with an overpair? It seems like you automatically assume he has a set but do you think he doesn't have any semi-bluffs that will also raise the turn?



Very very few semi-bluffs in his range given his preflop peel (not going to have A6 too often) so unless he's turning 88 into a bluff it's a set. I think bet/folding an overpair against a nit here is pretty standard absent reads

Posted over 1 year ago

surfdoc

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Something strange with the audio here? I hear Blah but not Fiend.

Posted over 1 year ago

surfdoc

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nm, I guess it was a solo flight initially.

Posted over 1 year ago

surfdoc

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Time Link to 00:30:10

Hi FWF. I like your idea about 4 betting very wide when we get 3 bet after isolating the limper. However, I think we run into a little bit of a problem though here because we made our isolation too big and then the guy puts in an enormous 3 bet to almost 15BB. Would you still advise a 4 bet here and what sizing?

Posted over 1 year ago

blah234

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Hi FWF. I like your idea about 4 betting very wide when we get 3 bet after isolating the limper. However, I think we run into a little bit of a problem though here because we made our isolation too big and then the guy puts in an enormous 3 bet to almost 15BB. Would you still advise a 4 bet here and what sizing?



this doesn't work vs anyone who understands math. Villain can simply control his shoving range and still 3 bet really wide for example they can 3bet/5bet 99+ AQ+ and protect 12-13% 3bet and make our 4 bet bluffs 0EV. 3 bet slightly less or shove slightly wider and every one of our 4bet bluffs becomes -EV.

Posted over 1 year ago

FabledHero

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Very very few semi-bluffs in his range given his preflop peel (not going to have A6 too often) so unless he's turning 88 into a bluff it's a set. I think bet/folding an overpair against a nit here is pretty standard absent reads

I think seeing his bluff raising % or in general his AF would be very helpful. Clearly it's a great spot to bluff raise from BB versus SB given how weak our range is, he should probably bluff raise any over cards. That definitely doesn't mean he will, but it seems to me a lot of players will.

Posted over 1 year ago

surfdoc

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this doesn't work vs anyone who understands math. Villain can simply control his shoving range and still 3 bet really wide for example they can 3bet/5bet 99+ AQ+ and protect 12-13% 3bet and make our 4 bet bluffs 0EV. 3 bet slightly less or shove slightly wider and every one of our 4bet bluffs becomes -EV.



So are you saying you do not like FWF idea to 4 bet bluff? What is your opinion on the sizing of the raises in this hand?

Posted over 1 year ago

blah234

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So are you saying you do not like FWF idea to 4 bet bluff? What is your opinion on the sizing of the raises in this hand?



Yes, vs any competent villain. Right adjustment vs lots of 3 bets when we iso raise is to iso a tighter range and make sizing smaller. IP we can flat way more 3 bets as well. Sizing of the raise is ok, little on the large side from the villain. If I were to 4 bet I'd just make it 30BB IP, its not like villain can call profitably. He might be priced in equity wise to call vs my range but it doesn't mean a call is +EV for him. There are still 3 more streets of betting after preflop so it will be very difficult for the villain to realize his equity.

Posted over 1 year ago

FoxwoodsFiend

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Yes, vs any competent villain. Right adjustment vs lots of 3 bets when we iso raise is to iso a tighter range and make sizing smaller. IP we can flat way more 3 bets as well. Sizing of the raise is ok, little on the large side from the villain. If I were to 4 bet I'd just make it 30BB IP, its not like villain can call profitably. He might be priced in equity wise to call vs my range but it doesn't mean a call is +EV for him. There are still 3 more streets of betting after preflop so it will be very difficult for the villain to realize his equity.



I think we disagree more on how often a typical reg bluff 3bets an iso more than anything else. In my experience you face a 3bet way more often when isolating than when openraising and a 4bet works very often

Posted over 1 year ago

B-rye88

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Time Link to 00:10:53

I also would figure that even though he *might* check a draw on the turn rather than bet, he also might check 9x for the same reasons (doesn't want to get blown off his equity if you x/r). The 5 is also a crappy card because 5x checks the turn pretty often imo.

Posted about 1 year ago



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