Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by DeathDonkey (High Stakes)

Time Link to 00:06:57

How much do u guys change your SB strategy depending on reads? I mean if we know that villain auto raises and barrel the turn when we limp, but play tight when we raise, the most profitable way to play aces is obv to limp, XC, XR.

I guess what I'm asking is if u prefer to play a default strategy that You feel comfortable with (for example u have an easy time reading ur own range). Or do u try to be really alert and quickly adjust (perhaps after only one confrontation)?

Personally I find myself often taking the first approach. I just have troubles to interpret information because I don't know if a spewy bluff will make villain more or less aggro in future hands.

Understand what Im talkning about ? Thoughts...

Time Link to 00:17:48

Very interesting discussion about XR big streets. People are much better at value-betting thin than they are at folding thin, which is why it's so awesome !

Time Link to 00:25:51

I guess what I'm uncomfortable with when I don't have initiative is that I have to raise in order to bluff. Typial scenario is I defend BB by a call. SB c-bet flop I call some mediocre hand. SB fire again on the turn and I think to myself, "meh it's not worth it, I muck". So SB wins a lot of these air vs air confrontations vs me.

Time Link to 00:26:52

LOL now u guys discuss excactly what I just said. Soulread

Really good video.

As Sushi asked in his first post how much do u change your strategy depending on reads and the meta read you think your opponent will have on you?

Also how do you adjust your strategy to LP calling stations that rarely bluffs, peels light and miss a lot of value raises becaue they calldown a ton? (when the optimal decision of shifting seat to his left isn't possible)

Time Link to 01:03:58

My expeience with people who limps is that they like to bluff donk a lot, but prefer to X stronger hands. It seems like u 2 also like this style and I do understand why. For obvious reasons this strategycan't work forever. However in the beginning opps tend to think:
A) I want to take a stab on the flop to find out what he is checking(SB checks).
B) I don't wnat to fight a small pot vs an unknown (SB bets).

Both these points is why ur very unbalanced strategy works. I just want to point out that u have to be ready to change gears pretty soon in the session to not get outplayed.

Great video. Lot's to think about.

5 stars

u guys are goodz

Time Link to 00:42:41

I don't like 3betting here. That turn card completes many of your possible semibluffing hands, so i don't think many decent opponents are raising here with a bluff or semibluff or for a free showdown because you are very very likely to have something. In my experience this spot it's more of a calldown expecting to lose most of the time, but can't fold because of the gutshot.

I don't like 3betting here. That turn card completes many of your possible semibluffing hands, so i don't think many decent opponents are raising here with a bluff or semibluff or for a free showdown because you are very very likely to have something. In my experience this spot it's more of a calldown expecting to lose most of the time, but can't fold because of the gutshot.

Not sure I was forceful enough in the video but I agree I basically never do this. I will say Mike has a pretty special image and people love to get in wars with him, so its not as bad for him as it is for me, but yeah, that part of the hand probably not optimal

I personally think the 3 bet on the turn with the 78 on the three club straight board is close to real bad. IMO. Mostly because you said you are not folding to a cap. If you get capped you are almost always dead. The way the hand played your pair is generally no good in my experience. The times it is good you are still dodging 18 outs usually. Almost any turn that doesn't pair the board opens you up to getting raised on your river donk bet. So I hope the plan at least is to fold to a river raise? This just seems to be a bit to optomistic since you are way behind to often and seldom way ahead and lose a river bet from all spazzy airballs that will end up firing the river one last time.

There was a hand from a recent LHE Dojo that I was hoping would make it in here. Maybe it'll show up in a later episode as the situation isn't really consistent with the theme of this one. Anyway, it'd be cool if you guys could check it out.

Time Link to 00:11:02

Haven't listened further than this yet, but if you guys are betting so frequently, can you talk a bit about what boards you'd c/r and what boards you'd c/c?

Rob

Time Link to 00:42:59

Really agree w/Raist that I hate the turn 3-bet here. It's just far too optimistic. I understand all the reasons and I think it's pretty awesome that you guys went through all of it, but it's too thin without a super specific read, and when you have that super specific read, it's not really much of a discussion because it's such a narrow spot.

Rob

Haven't listened further than this yet, but if you guys are betting so frequently, can you talk a bit about what boards you'd c/r and what boards you'd c/c?

Rob

CR: good hands, good equity semibluffs probably. It sort of is opponent dependent for me because some guys just want to check down any old hand or draw but they will still call a bet sometimes, a lot are spazzy and will take a shot at the pot so if I actually have something checking here makes sense. I know its pretty funny that it boils down to the opposite of normal strategy "check when you have something and bet when you don't" but with such a small pot size, the bluffing frequency should be increased so it actually makes fairly logical sense from a "balance" perspective, and I think from an exploitative one as well.

CC: hands with showdown value that aren't too strong, its a narrow range of hands that are too weak to CR but too strong to fold. In tiny pots I think this is correct as well. I really have no pots odds to chase a lot of speculative hands, but my bluffing success should be high, so really there is a lack of incentive to CC except against someone pretty bad and bluffy where I can make way more $ inducing him to fire multiple barrels because I look weak.

Thanks Mike and Chris. Always great to see these videos that creatively tackles difficult spots.

Few questions for you guys.

When you guys bet out as the SB complete with the redraw air hands how are you guys balancing that with the pairs that you flop once your called on the turn? My assumption is that on the turn you chk/call BTM pairs good portion, chk/raise TP+, and chk/call or bet out MP depending on board/opposition. I guess a better question would be what type of made as well as non made hands are betting both the flop and the turn as the SB complete against a PF BB chk.

What are the type of spots if any are guys rebluffing as the SB complete in these BvB situations?

You mention the concept of keeping the pot small but what would make you lean towards jamming hard with weak holding as the SB complete in these BvB spots? I'm sure this is just completely opponent dependent but I feel I'd miss quite a bit of value against certain opposition by trying to induce and keep the pot small a little too much. I'm guessing this is outweighed by having more hands we chk/r on turns and rivers.

You asked a lot of good questions, I can't imagine I can really do justice to some of the answers without writing a novel. Obviously the primary thing I am doing is trying to figure out how to exploit the particular guy in the BB best. I would definitely unbalance my betting out hands vs checking hands a ton vs various types of big blind players.

I would rebluff in spots where I have good backdoor draws, so I can easily catch something and get value bets in since my hand is a bit disguised (overs on low boards are ok for this).

Well I'd jam if the guy tends to jam weakly. I will say this is really rare though. Guys who check their option don't tend to start spewing after a tiny pot postflop.