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Josh “sthief09†Plotkin delivers the third installment of one of our most popular series, “King for a Day.†Josh will review member vids at small stakes 6max NL.
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I haven't seen so nitty play for a long long time. ![]()
I haven't seen so nitty play for a long long time.
I don't think I'd call it nitty really. More like taking too many pot control lines.
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AKo hand on KT4tt:
If Hero had chosen to bet $40 on this turn, and the 3 of hearts or 9 of hearts comes down on the river and Villain shoves, do you call?
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it's fine to b paranoid abit when you always seem to have the one or two overcards hit the flop to your hand
AKo hand on KT4tt:
If Hero had chosen to bet $40 on this turn, and the 3 of hearts or 9 of hearts comes down on the river and Villain shoves, do you call?
Given the way the hand played out, villain's bluff range would be pretty small. Basically only turning QQ, JJ, Tx into a bluff after a loose turn call (unlikely). If the river were the 3h then maybe he could have QJs, but that's only 3 combinations. The range of worse hands betting for value would basically be non-existent. We also have neither the Kh nor the Th accounted for. I think we can fold pretty easily in either scenario if he's a competent and sane player.
Very helpful. I'm lost in 3bet pots.
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When you bet here (45 or 70), do you call a shove by IANMACLEOD.. Because I think he wouldnt call preflop with AK and there is more chance he have AA, KK than JJ, TT because of the fish. JJ and TT arent that good in 4bet pot 3ways, so its basically setmining to flat the 4bet, no?
When you bet here (45 or 70), do you call a shove by IANMACLEOD.. Because I think he wouldnt call preflop with AK and there is more chance he have AA, KK than JJ, TT because of the fish. JJ and TT arent that good in 4bet pot 3ways, so its basically setmining to flat the 4bet, no?
The pot odds are just too good to fold once you get to that point. Regarding JJ/TT setmining, the implied odds are just not there when calling off 30bb. For him to be flatting <KK it's because he suspects hero is 4-bet bluffing at some reasonably high frequency. If that's the case, he can push the flop with less than KK considering the pot is just massive at that point.
The pot odds are just too good to fold once you get to that point. Regarding JJ/TT setmining, the implied odds are just not there when calling off 30bb. For him to be flatting <KK it's because he suspects hero is 4-bet bluffing at some reasonably high frequency. If that's the case, he can push the flop with less than KK considering the pot is just massive at that point.
ok thx for the answer!
but against an average 100NL player, am I right to assume that JJ/TT arent in his 4bet's flatting range often?
and do you think its a good play to flat with them against good reg (like vilain does) ?
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I just want to know something about this hand. I understand that when you bet the flop, he will raise with all his strong hand so when he calls, his range is pretty much Ax or pair+draw. Say we bet the flop, he calls.
1. Do we barel if turn comes K, T or hearts? Because I dont know if its profitable given his range
2. and if turn is a blank, we bet and he calls, do we 3barel shove the river on a blank? on a K, T or hearts? (if he call 2nd barel, im not sure he folds enought on the river to make it profitable)
thx!
I just want to know something about this hand. I understand that when you bet the flop, he will raise with all his strong hand so when he calls, his range is pretty much Ax or pair+draw. Say we bet the flop, he calls.
1. Do we barel if turn comes K, T or hearts? Because I dont know if its profitable given his range
2. and if turn is a blank, we bet and he calls, do we 3barel shove the river on a blank? on a K, T or hearts? (if he call 2nd barel, im not sure he folds enought on the river to make it profitable)
thx!
1. I wouldn't be looking to turn this into a bluff on a heart. I'd go ahead and bet the turn/river with a straight because I think he'll call with 2pr some high % of the time. on a T turn, I'd prefer to check and try to make a good river decision. If he has better 2pr, he may let you check it down which is obviously nice.
2. If I think he'll call-call-fold A8 or KQ when I barrel off, then I may go ahead and do that. Some LAGs are capable of reading hands and realizing that we should have a huge hand when 3-betting preflop and barreling off 150bb on AQJxy. Against a run-of-the-mill fish, I like just checking the flop and maneuvering my way through the hand. I see more value in keeping the pot manageable and encouraging bluffs or bad value bets with hands like 88.
Regarding a T or a heart river, value betting a T riv is too thin. A heart gets a little dicey because the Ah is not on the board. That may swing it from a thin bluff to an unprofitable one.
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