Nice video Joe,these coaching vids are great to find the leaks.

I don't understand why you fold T7 in BB against sb with a flop 862. Against top 60% we have 33% of equity and sb don't 3 bet very often if we raise imo.

Another question for the same hand, if you choose to raise. Which cards do you bet on the turn ?

Nice video Joe,these coaching vids are great to find the leaks.

I don't understand why you fold T7 in BB against sb with a flop 862. Against top 60% we have 33% of equity and sb don't 3 bet very often if we raise imo.

Another question for the same hand, if you choose to raise. Which cards do you bet on the turn ?

Without looking back at the video (leave the time-stamp next time, pls), I think this is the hand where we have bad relative position. Where the SB donked us into a squeeze between a aggro, PFR. Our hand is just two weak and in a really tough spot to continue because of the donk out from our right.

Nice vid, I have a huge post of feedback for you wada, on your play in the vid and in general since I have played with you some. It just got too late and I had a lot of stuff to comment on.

Cool... Looking forward to it. Also if you could hit me up on MSN (Ballbuster205{at}hotmail.com) or AIM (supcom205) that be cool too, either way.

Thanks

A5o 1:34
-I've played with you, or watched you play the 2/4 some and you have trouble playing against aggressive players. I think it leans a bit towards tilt in my opinion, you don't want them getting the better of you all the time. What you have to understand is they aren't getting the better of you until you until you enter a pot vs them with a hand like this. They are actually getting the better of the opponents they have position on, and you just happen to get the worst end of it.

Whether or not this guy is a thinking aggressive player or not, I don't know, but I am going to fill you in on a bit of advice for handling the ones that do

A thinking aggressive player isn’t getting his PFR up to 29% by JUST raising that range whenever, at least not most of the time. It’s getting that way by isolating the weak players to his right. He is able to isolate this range comfortably because you are sitting on his left. It’s nothing personal, he just knows that when he raises with someone already else in the pot he is forcing you to have a stout 3-betting isolation range before you give him any problems. You are an empty seat to him in this situation until you wake up with a hand.

Now change the situation. A thinking aggressive player with TAG’s behind him KNOWS that his stats are Laggy, and he KNOWS you are just dying to play with him. He is never going to open himself with a sub-par hand when he Open-raises ESPECIALLY UTG. In this way he is getting the best value from both sides, he is getting great value isolating the weak players to his right, and great value when he convinces the TAG’s to his left to play with him HU with him with sub-par dominated hands. This is basically the concept that Joe was talking about in the next hand.

The basic version is that a LAG, especially a thinking LAG is actually much weaker when raising after a weak player has already entered the pot than he will EVER be when he open raises.

The actual hand is quite interesting after the flop. This Flop donk-check is almost always a big hand. If it weren’t for your extremely dominated hand the this flop texture would make it a little less so against a thinking LAG, for example:
Say you isolated me in this situation and that flop came, I would be checking a hand like AJ here vs. you because that flop hits what a normal TAG’s isolating range should be HARD or not at all. I’m basically playing my hand way ahead/ way behind depending on the Turn and the possible backdoor draws because I am now no longer ahead of any aces (A9-AK) and other hands will be very scared of that board. Depending on what I think of your play I’m doing this with Sets and 2 pairs here, less so against you because I think that I can get a whole lot more value betting and hoping you do something nutty, than checking and hoping you will do something nutty.(which is the case for almost all thinking players at this level) But against 90% of these players at this limit this is a HUGE hand. Sometimes it’s something you have outflopped like QQ or KK, but highly likely set, 2 pair, or at the very least AK

AK hand. 13:26
-I had trouble spots in these situations and I still do. It comes from moving up in limits and playing in tables surrounded by passive players. We just aren’t used to being squeezed in these situations on the Flop. Make MineRBetter33 or both of your opponents passive and a raise/fold situation in this spot becomes incorrect. Say MinRBetter33 is a typical LP with JJ or QQ, he is going to wait for the Turn to pop it here a ton. If he has a dominated ace with no pair your raise will convince him to fold. The only thing you really want to fold, Aces that have you reverse dominated, a typical LP will never fold, so raising here would lose value, as would folding because you have aren’t getting raised as often, and your hand has a ton of value if you hit on the turn.

The moral of this hand I guess is that the play of hands changes drastically when you are facing aggressive players.

T7s hand 30:06
-I really just felt the need to comment on your poor table selection here. Physiol, Farsitegrind, Niru47 are all 2/4 regulars with decent game, Farha My Hero is actually kind of Loose-tight, and he bounces around the low to mid stakes, I’m guessing based on how well he is running at the time and the amount of his latest rakeback check. Niets seems familiar but I can’t find him in my DB. This is either pure laziness or pure tilt. This is what happens when you either A) get into a good game and all these players jump on to the waiting list, and you just aren’t paying attention to what’s going on (PLAY LESS TABLES) or B) you jump on a waiting list with decent stats and find that these guys had the same idea and have already eaten up all the action. It also happens when you get stuck and you end up playing too late at night.
Seriously dude there are better 15/30 tables out there. The main thing that should separate you from the rest of the players at this limit is Game selection. Get on it.

As5s hand 61:59
-What's the worst you could do against someone who is aggressively stealing the blinds? Not let him of course, but there are a lot of ways to accomplish this.
When your opponent makes a steal attempt his range is geared towards hands that play well heads up, but make the majority of their money by folding out the blinds. Taking a hand like A5s heads up against him is just playing right into his hands. Against a relatively loose stealer sure, you have almost 4%(worse aces) of his range crushed, and a fighting chance against another 2%(PP's 22-44) but the rest of the time you are either a slight favorite against about 16% of his hands or absolutely crushed by the rest. Overall you are about a wash equity-wise with A5s vs. a 40% raising range BUT you are in the worst possible position heads up so you can never really expect to realize the full value of your hand. Add in the added effect of you ONLY ever getting action on your hand when you don't want it and your hand is a loser in this spot.

So what's the worst thing we can do against a frequent blind stealer with A5s? Call and give the big blind odds to call with just about any 2. Our equity drops a bit, but the Button with his stealing range is eff'd. His equity drops significantly, and overall vs 3 opponents WE are the slight favorite. Yes we still have the worst position and now its 3 handed, but against a stealing opponent who is commited to C-betting nearly 100% we have the BEST relative position.
Don't be afraid to call in these spots with hands that play well multiway, especially when the big blind is a bad player. Keep raising less dominated hands that realize more equity heads up, like KJ and especially pairs that value greatly from folds postflop, but with hands that play just as well or better multiway, call and give your opponent a real reason to sweat stealing your blinds.

Just wanted to congratulate Nfinity on some excellent posts in this thread.

1)The AK hand on T96 board. We may get sandwiched/squeezed,
this is true. But considering the size of the pot, I dont see how we can fold.
And I dont see how a raise is going to fold anything by the PF 3 bettor.
if he doesnt have a strong hand, he has the same type of problem we have.
Dont we have to see the turn card?

2) the T9s hand on a 797 board. I agree betting is a good/best play.
however, the amount we should bet this flop with air, interests me.
I get the impression that the admins here think that bluffing a paired board
is something only bad players do. I have never understood why.
(in fact I would like to see Danzasmack or someone do a video on just paired boards)
is it ok to fire 100% of our range on this flop? (assuming we have a believable image)
or do we need to refine that range or?

3) 3 betting baby pairs from the button...even 77 down (in this case 55).
aren't we forcing ourselves to go to many showdowns with many "bad boards"?
we are going to see lots of overcards on our way to SD.
my point is...WADA chooses to go to SD perhaps on a very bad board.
but isn't his main idea of getting to SD a good one?