Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by chipchucker5 (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:06:13

i think its funny you were able to get away with a small size like that, as i was hearing your thinking i was worried his stack may be a little small for this, if he was 100BB deep rather then 50BB would you be making it smaller or bigger here?

Time Link to 00:12:49

Whats the worst hand you would value bet the river with in this spot?

Whats the worst hand you think villain should be betting when you check the river?

Are you value betting the river on a blank, like a 2 of hearts? I'm guessing there are enough Jx and hero calls because the draws missed to make this a valuebet right?

i think its funny you were able to get away with a small size like that, as i was hearing your thinking i was worried his stack may be a little small for this, if he was 100BB deep rather then 50BB would you be making it smaller or bigger here?

heh yeah, being able to go small there is partly a function of his stack size, but a big factor is just how much air he has there. but stack sizes are really nice for this because he really can't do anything w/out risking a huge % of his stack w/ complete air..there's just no way he has like 86s and decides he's gonna 3b or jam there imo. so yeah if he starts the hand w/ 100bbs or w/e i would go a bit bigger since he has a lot more room to decide im FOS and 3b bluff.

Time Link to 00:06:05

Hi CC - what do you think about your sizing here? If I were in your shoes and I was trying to rep (or had) a value hand surely you would go bigger so you could shove river without overbetting? The logic is sound but as he was short it would seem kinda strange if I were in his shoes.

thanks in advance

PS - I read your response to the previous post so you don't need to re-write that bit :-)

Hi CC - what do you think about your sizing here? If I were in your shoes and I was trying to rep (or had) a value hand surely you would go bigger so you could shove river without overbetting? The logic is sound but as he was short it would seem kinda strange if I were in his shoes.

thanks in advance

PS - I read your response to the previous post so you don't need to re-write that bit :-)

well it's really just that his range is sooo air heavy and his stack is such that even if he is suspicious about my sizing, there's really very little he can do about it. he may be like "ugggh he's not repping a whole lot and his sizing is pretty small..but i have 87o what am i gonna do..gotta just fold."

Whats the worst hand you would value bet the river with in this spot?

Whats the worst hand you think villain should be betting when you check the river?

Are you value betting the river on a blank, like a 2 of hearts? I'm guessing there are enough Jx and hero calls because the draws missed to make this a valuebet right?

Worst hand i vbet is prob KQ on that river. The worst hand I think villain SHOULD be betting on river is an interesting question actually. lemme think about that one a little bit..

edit: and yes im def betting a 2h river for the reasons u stated

nice vid man!

Time Link to 00:14:08

the J-9 hand in the bb

vs a small blind open what would your typ flatting range be?? and what type of hands would you lean towards 3betting rather than flating??

just relized that i havent been taking advantange of this situation very much at all.

the J-9 hand in the bb

vs a small blind open what would your typ flatting range be?? and what type of hands would you lean towards 3betting rather than flating??

just relized that i havent been taking advantange of this situation very much at all.

don't wanna completely give away my range but will give some examples. i like flatting hands as weak as T8o, J8o, even 97o, 87o, T7s, Q8s. i prefer 3betting the low SCs and suited one gappers like 54s, 64s etc, and then also some bigger suited non connected hands like J7s, Q6s, K3s. if villain is the type to call lots of 3bets then u wanna be 3betting some of your big card hands for value, i.e. KJ/KQ/AJ etc.

Time Link to 00:05:42

great vid chipchucker

I have a question about the KJ hand. How would you play a K or J turn ? would you raise it too?

great vid chipchucker

I have a question about the KJ hand. How would you play a K or J turn ? would you raise it too?

thanks, glad u enjoyed it

so the vacuum play is def def def to just call on K or J turns given that he has a tonnnnn of air on the turn there and will be pretty damn likely to barrel river as well since our range looks so weak. so honestly, that's what id be doing almost all of the time. theory wise, it's prob good to c/r like KQ there esp if he's got all the suited kings pf and like K7o/K8o because there'll be a decent amt of worse hands that can call, and ur line looks slightly suspicious. c/ring sets on turn some of the time also seems good from a theory perspective since u have like the nuts and there are more Kx combos he can potentially have since ur not blocking any of those (unlike when u have KJ/KQ). but all that being said, i think u can get away w/ being unbalanced here for a while w/out people really catching on/adjusting for it.

Worst hand i vbet is prob KQ on that river. The worst hand I think villain SHOULD be betting on river is an interesting question actually. lemme think about that one a little bit..

edit: and yes im def betting a 2h river for the reasons u stated

so worst hand i think villain should be betting on river (assuming sb is a tough player) is QJ. the reason being that a good player in the sb here isn't going to be c/cing very often at all. this should be evidenced by the fact that i have a pretty decent hand with which to c/c (since we basically have the nut "non ace" since im highly discounting QT/KQ since those check back river like always) and im not comfortable doing it. so he's very likely going to get folds or get c/shoved on. the only conceivable hands i could c/c w/ here are like AT/AK and id be pretty likely to just bet those for value and try to get called by Q9/QT/KQ.

thats fine, thanx

I know where this series is going, you're building an image of a bluffy aggromonkey so you'll get paid off left and right j/k

thanks, glad u enjoyed it

but all that being said, i think u can get away w/ being unbalanced here for a while w/out people really catching on/adjusting for it.

Thats the point i wanted to discuss If I call when i hit and raise when i miss it will be easy for villain to reship and exploit me... but then we have to raise/call with our Toppairhands on turn untill he is adjusting again.

thanks for the reply

If you get called in the first KJ hand.. will u ship a lot of river or is it more as a 1 barrel bluff?

an dhow do I add timestamp ?

And why is there no HUD in your movies? I know you say whats important but I like to see it as well

BUT 1 of the best serie i saw lately on any coachingsite!

If you get called in the first KJ hand.. will u ship a lot of river or is it more as a 1 barrel bluff?

an dhow do I add timestamp ?

And why is there no HUD in your movies? I know you say whats important but I like to see it as well

BUT 1 of the best serie i saw lately on any coachingsite!

Im planning on shutting down on river..the turn c/r is def profitable in and of itself.

My HUD is not up there because I'm using a HH replayer program to show you guys the hands and it's can't handle that type of information. To timestamp you just pause the video and then click "comment from timeline" and then type your comment.

Thanks a lot for the compliment!

Time Link to 00:23:07

Thank you for an excellent video.

I really like your move and your reasoning here. On the other hand I don't think that we represent too much. Villain must think that you put him on a king at least after his call on flop and turn.

If thats true you are only value betting strong hands - hands that beats toppair. And those you will surely bet bigger. So maybe the river bet should be larger to consistent with your line throughout the hand.

Does that make any sense?

Time Link to 00:32:59

Here you talk about that theory-wise it's a good call since it's top of our range.

You also mentioned something like that in the first video. Is there a specific book or something that deals with this - where do you get the theory-wise thing from?

Thank you for an excellent video.

I really like your move and your reasoning here. On the other hand I don't think that we represent too much. Villain must think that you put him on a king at least after his call on flop and turn.

If thats true you are only value betting strong hands - hands that beats toppair. And those you will surely bet bigger. So maybe the river bet should be larger to consistent with your line throughout the hand.

Does that make any sense?

Thanks Loiner, glad you enjoyed the vid.

Wrt the river betsizing. Like I said in the video, his range looks relatively weak/marginal, ie 87, A7, 88-JJ, 54s and some weak kings. So I think vbetting small here makes a lot of sense from his perspective. Also since the FD whiffed I think it's going to be nearly impossible to ever get him to fold Kx here even if we bet close to pot. So bluffing small is def the best vacuum play here imo.

Here you talk about that theory-wise it's a good call since it's top of our range.

You also mentioned something like that in the first video. Is there a specific book or something that deals with this - where do you get the theory-wise thing from?

There aren't any books that im aware of on this subject.

The theory-wise thing comes from a concept of poker being a solved game (like chess). So try to imagine a super computer that was able to play unexploitable poker. Let's say for arguments sake that AQ is the absolute best hand I can possibly have here..so I'm officially at the "top of my range." The super computer would never fold to a shove here w/ AQ because that would mean that he's folding 100% of the time to a c/shove..which is pretty clearly exploitable. So when playing against a tough player, there are some situations where you think it's very close between call or fold because you're very unsure of his bluffing frequencies. You can revert to game theory and call when ur literally at the top of ur range.

Now I'd like to give a word of caution when trying to apply this concept in game. There are a lot of situations where you're going to be thinking "ok this guy just NEVER bluffs in this spot. OH WAIT! chipchucker told me that i shouldn't fold the top of my range against river bets against good players, so I CALL! god dammit agdlsj;lakjsdf that idiot!! what terrible advice he gave me!" There are plenty of situations where realistically people just really don't bluff and i will literally fold 100% of my range in those situations because we're not trying to play "unexploitable poker" we're trying to make the most money that we possibly can.

Not sure if that makes sense. Please let me know if you'd like me to clarify/reiterate anything.