Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by DJ Sensei (Micro/Small Stakes)

great episode but..
every monster draw missed lol so tilting

great episode but..
every monster draw missed lol so tilting

Yeah, that's pretty much how we felt when we played the hands.

The problem is if you hit your draw the hand plays itself, so those are pretty uninteresting and there isn't much to talk about, unless we just wanted to make a highlights video of us stacking people.

Here's one to get you off tilt.


Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 328121
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

SB: $193.20
BB: $203.00
CO: $420.40
Hero (BTN): $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with J T
CO calls $2, Hero raises to $8, SB calls $7, BB calls $6, CO calls $6

Flop: ($32.00) A A Q (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $8, CO folds, Hero raises to $26, SB calls $26, BB folds

Turn: ($92.00) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($92.00) K (2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero raises to $166 all in, SB calls $139.20 all in

Final Pot: $410.40
SB shows Q Q (a full house, Queens full of Aces)
Hero shows J T (a Royal Flush)
Hero wins $408.40
(Rake: $2.00)

Just a tiny little annoyance. I'm finding it hard to hear everyone except for DJ sensei.

Ty for this series. Moar pls.

Just a tiny little annoyance. I'm finding it hard to hear everyone except for DJ sensei.

Ty for this series. Moar pls.

Yeah, one day I need to get one of the balla headsets like DJ has. I've been trying to talk louder and put the mic right in front of my mouth, but it just gets distorted with static after a certain point. Everyone seems to be able to hear me fine on Skype but it comes out really soft in the videos. Sorry about that, but hopefully it hasn't taken away from the vids too much.

im going to put together something more coherent but for now I dont like it, not so much DJs thoughts, but you students have too much willingness to get more and more money in with draws. you hit the fd about 2 out of 5 times. 3:2 against,yet you act like you got the nutz. I dont play this way in general I play a good deal more passively with draws. I also see so much draw betting and the patterns are so consistant that I rarely pay off when the draw hits.

I also make alot of money in full ring games with sets, two pair and sxs top pair hands, all in on the flop,against guys with flush draws. you guys are better than that to be sure, but the ultimate point is you are significantly behind wiht these flush draws, significantly behind and I dont see why there is such a predeliction to building a huge pot in those circumstances.

I do think the occasional checkraise line, that is novel and would probably work against me, but I rarely see it.

I like the analysis of the factors, your actual equity in the hand and wether or not you have any fold equity against the particular villan. I think you discoverd that at these types of stakes you generally have little fold equity, even with your checkraises.

what im saying is that its about adjusting to villans right, if you have guys who will fold to any show of strength than fine. but in general I think i make a good deal of money against people who play draws agressively, because that is kind of the normal way to play them in the current low/mid stakes online games. its about adjusting. this is an excellent video, hope I dont sound arrogant, just want to push on the issue a little and get some discussion going.

im going to put together something more coherent but for now I dont like it, not so much DJs thoughts, but you students have too much willingness to get more and more money in with draws. you hit the fd about 2 out of 5 times. 3:2 against,yet you act like you got the nutz. .

lol....... DJs thoughts are what you should change your game to.... If your not playing the way hes talking then your definetly playing wrong.

How passive are you talking about playing these draws?? also alot of these draws had straight/overpair outs + theres money in the pot from preflop.. Also if you flop a set against someone elses nut flush + overcards thats called a cooler for them.

I agree that there was a few situations where that one student was too aggresive but in general the students had pretty good ideas what was going on.

what im saying is that its about adjusting to villans right, if you have guys who will fold to any show of strength than fine. but in general I think i make a good deal of money against people who play draws agressively, because that is kind of the normal way to play them in the current low/mid stakes online games. its about adjusting. this is an excellent video, hope I dont sound arrogant, just want to push on the issue a little and get some discussion going.

I think I know what you're getting at. There's definitely a lot of players at these limits who go with "I has a draw... arrrrrrrrrrr in!" without ever considering all the variables. There are definitely players whom jamming the flop with a draw is incorrect because all you are really doing is getting it in versus a strong range. In fact, we did have a hand where I think a lot of players would make this mistake (pretty sure it's mogwai's hand in a BvB situation), but we ended up making the correct play and flatting his flop raise.

Still, assuming we are in simple aggression land, most of the times we should be playing our draws aggressively because we often have enough fold equity.

Maybe you guys need multi-track recording software, if such a thing is available. Then you could fix the volume levels in mixing.

Maybe you guys need multi-track recording software, if such a thing is available. Then you could fix the volume levels in mixing.

We use Pamela software for recording skype calls, I don't know if it supports multi-track editing?

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I agree on calling but given the stacksizes what about a minraise. Vilain will probably fold all of his pairs and flushdraws. If he calls we are sure to get the money in when we hit our flush on the river.If he reraises or calls we are definetly beat and don't loose more money if a King comes on the river.

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If we are in YadadaMee in this spot is there any reason to bet like 66-99 or a small pair there? Bc can Yadada expect hero to pay him off with missed overs? So practically when Yadada bets here he has air or draws most of the time. right?

I agree on calling but given the stacksizes what about a minraise. Vilain will probably fold all of his pairs and flushdraws. If he calls we are sure to get the money in when we hit our flush on the river.If he reraises or calls we are definetly beat and don't loose more money if a King comes on the river.

Why would we want him to fold pairs or flush draws? Those are exactly the kind of hands we want to keep in the pot because we crush them! And I still think that he won't put us on a pair of aces often and may bluff the river frequently, so I prefer a call.

Minraising would be better here if we had some sort of read that he loved to 3bet ship over them with all sorts of junk, but not many opponents will do that.

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Aw I'm kinda disappointed that you can't actually hear the Blue Angels on the video. They were much louder in real life (plus I sound crazy now)

If we are in YadadaMee in this spot is there any reason to bet like 66-99 or a small pair there? Bc can Yadada expect hero to pay him off with missed overs? So practically when Yadada bets here he has air or draws most of the time. right?

Are you talking about the turn in the first hand? Your timestamp doesn't point to anything appropriate for your question.

Assuming that, I think it depends. Sometimes I'll bet there with mid pairs to protect against hands with decent equity, sometimes I won't because I'd rather let them bluff me on the river.

Aw I'm kinda disappointed that you can't actually hear the Blue Angels on the video. They were much louder in real life (plus I sound crazy now)

yea I was wondering what you were talking about lol

Are you talking about the turn in the first hand? Your timestamp doesn't point to anything appropriate for your question.

Assuming that, I think it depends. Sometimes I'll bet there with mid pairs to protect against hands with decent equity, sometimes I won't because I'd rather let them bluff me on the river.

Yea it was the first hand. I am not sure what happen with the time. Would it be better to protect vs passive villains and not against aggressive because the passive once are less likely to bluff the river as for the aggressive ones they are more likely to bluff river or c/r semi bluff a draw there.

Would it be better to protect vs passive villains and not against aggressive because the passive once are less likely to bluff the river as for the aggressive ones they are more likely to bluff river or c/r semi bluff a draw there.

Yup, you've got it!

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If we sized our reraise bigger from the flop to set up bigger turn and river bets (something I think we're thinking about doing with our 2pr+ hands) our hand strength is increased but he's never folding the flop and turn to any sized bet with a good ace, will that only size up the river for him to make a crying call when our draws miss and he has a PSB to call on the river. Is our range weighted towards draws or monsters when we play this hand, does villain hand read or try to put us on anything according to our tendencies (eg are we aggro with our draws very often)? If he doesn't hand read or respect our RR + barrel all in by the river range I'd rather just play this hand quite passively when he's giving us great odds. Our implied odds go down and we're OOP but if he's just barely half potting every street we don't have to make as much when we hit. We have 4 outs to a pretty disguised hand.

Also on the river that J imo is a pretty bad card for us, when we raise the way we did on flop and turn, is he folding aj by the turn and will only have aq+ left in his range? Although to a good hand reader ak is the same as at or aj. We overbet river if it was q or k?

I think jamming river is the most +ev play against a bad hand reader and a good one. I think we have enough straights in our range from sc's that we flat to make up for the busted flush draws. There's also not that many busted fd's in our range.

I think jamming river is the most +ev play against a bad hand reader and a good one. I think we have enough straights in our range from sc's that we flat to make up for the busted flush draws. There's also not that many busted fd's in our range.

I disagree with the reasoning here, or at least it needs more explaining. Why would jamming river be good vs a bad and a good hand reader?
A good hand reader should know that we have more flush draws or combo draws when we rr flop unless he gives us credit as a player that's more likely to rr draws with less outs for deception and as a bluff, we have 6 clean outs with 9t(unless we specifically have 9tspades). We rep a narrow range when we jam river, 77 88 9t, i don't even think we're repping a8 a7 for value anymore when we overbet jam river. You have to be able to get credit for jamming thin here for value so villain knows you have a wider range for value over betting than just flopped sets and turned straights after you've rr'ed flop. Or else he can just count the combos of missed draws vs the combos of value hands and make a good decision. Also the way we got to the river, if we have a set we'd bet closer to pot. Or would have set up stack sizes better so we're not overbetting river.

there is a lot of busted fd+ combo draws on the turn that bricks by river and all of a sudden we're just putting in 100+ into 100 or even 200 into 100?

a bad hand reader just talks himself into calling you bc they think you have qj or kq of spades.

an overbet on the river will fold out mediocre players that aren't hand reading as well and is just not willing to risk a big call in this spot with a bluff catcher

Against a bad hand reader I'm assuming they just fold when they see the overbet shove on the river because they're gonna have a one pair hand that can't call a lot.

Against a good hand reader he can't call if he puts us on lots of sets and sc's that raise the flop. I added a ton of spades hands that could cr the flop as a worst case scenario thing. I think ak has much less equity on the river but this is a best case scenario for villain.

Board: As 8h 7s 6d Jh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 66.667% 66.67% 00.00% 20 0.00 { 88-77, KsQs, KsJs, KsTs, QsJs, QsTs, JsTs, Js9s, T9s, 86s+, 76s, 65s, 54s }
Hand 1: 33.333% 33.33% 00.00% 10 0.00 { AdKh }

Against a bad hand reader I'm assuming they just fold when they see the overbet shove on the river because they're gonna have a one pair hand that can't call a lot.

Against a good hand reader he can't call if he puts us on lots of sets and sc's that raise the flop. I added a ton of spades hands that could cr the flop as a worst case scenario thing. I think ak has much less equity on the river but this is a best case scenario for villain.

Board: As 8h 7s 6d Jh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 66.667% 66.67% 00.00% 20 0.00 { 88-77, KsQs, KsJs, KsTs, QsJs, QsTs, JsTs, Js9s, T9s, 86s+, 76s, 65s, 54s }
Hand 1: 33.333% 33.33% 00.00% 10 0.00 { AdKh }

It's hard to tell what a bad hand reader will do, but in my experience, when bad players are confused they just talk themselves into calling.

A good player will see that you only have the 6 combos of 77 and 88 that you're representing on the flop. Like i said previously, i think he takes 9t os out of your RR range unless you've shown you're capable of doing that. Most people call once on 6 clean outs. By the time you overbet shove river you are narrowing your range away from possible 2pr hands like 86s, 8js. If your opp can credit you as the type of player that will value overbet when you beat a bluff catcher, then you can pot or overbet river more successfully b/c you're able to keep a wider value range. Also a good player might take those sets out of your range due to your bet sizing on flop and turn because with a set on a draw heavy board you'd likely bet larger or at least set stack sizes up for a PSB on the river.

The equity calculation is misleading because you know the result of his hand but you have to give him credit for having monsters in his range too. As for your own range, you have 8 monsters 77 88 45s 9ts. Why is 89s 8ts not in your range? There are 11 combos of bricked suited cards assuming you will never ever raise this flop with just pure air.

I think we can discount big hands from villain's range because I don't think many villains will have the right thought process in flatting the turn bet with a set or made straight. I think they'll want to raise to protect against a flush draw. I'm not saying I agree with their thought process. If villain raised turn I'd snap fold. He might flat turn with a set but he prob repops flop with a set, and there's way more combos of AJ+ than sets already.

So on the river I think he has a weak bluff catcher type hand most the time. I guess I just overbet shove against someone who doesn't hero call and fold to someone who is a sheriff. I just don't think many people call an overbet shove here on the river with AK. It only has to work like 60% of the time to breakeven right?

Also the standard line of check fold on the turn is probably best and my standard but I think reraising the turn has merit against someone who cbets and double barrels too much although that type of player might be one who is more likely to look up a river shove.

I've been thinking about this hand and how I actually would play it and I would cr the flop but then check call the turn. That being said, I would lead with sets on the turn. I think villain checks back the turn a lot.

So the cr turn shove river line might be ok as a bluff but it's high variance and I'm not in love with it. I liked it theoretically but in reality people like calling and bluff catching. You're gonna be able to see a free river card a lot. I'm just stereotyping 100nl regs so obviously it's gonna depend still.

Against really good players I think leading turn shoving river is going to be better because I can add some more bluffs when I take that line since I want to be able to take this line with sets, straights, and flushes if I hit the river.

I'm like the LAST ONE to comment here, but...

In situations like the last hand, where you'll either win the pot when he folds, or always lose when called, the equation for how often your bluff needs to work is simply...

Bet / (Bet + Pot)

and here we're betting 150ish to win 100ish...

150 / (150 + 100) = 60% (3/5)

If he'll fold 60 here, we're +EV on this bluff. AMIRITE?

I'm like the LAST ONE to comment here, but...

In situations like the last hand, where you'll either win the pot when he folds, or always lose when called, the equation for how often your bluff needs to work is simply...

Bet / (Bet + Pot)

and here we're betting 150ish to win 100ish...

150 / (150 + 100) = 60% (3/5)

If he'll fold 60 here, we're +EV on this bluff. AMIRITE?

Yeah, you got it.