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Poker Video: Stud/Stud 8 by Joe Tall (Micro/Small Stakes)

Time Link to 00:08:44

They did not bring it in for full, the bring in on your left table is just the same size as the completion on the right.

Have I fallen into some kind of time tunnel :-)? Episode Four?

Time Link to 00:45:59

Ugh, I think he had a pocket pair, what else can he raise on 3rd and 4th? If he put you on a flush draw, he can't really raise 4th. Consequential, you were overaggressive and really lucked out on 6th. Imo, he was drawing to better two pair.

They did not bring it in for full, the bring in on your left table is just the same size as the completion on the right.

Yeah I fd-that up, sorry. I was playing two tables of the same limit earlier in the day and recorded but messed up the recording. Then played these two tables and didnt realize it.

Have I fallen into some kind of time tunnel :-)? Episode Four?

Fixed!

Ugh, I think he had a pocket pair, what else can he raise on 3rd and 4th? If he put you on a flush draw, he can't really raise 4th. Consequential, you were overaggressive and really lucked out on 6th. Imo, he was drawing to better two pair.

Are you talking about the stud hi table on the left? Where I start with 99|6h?

He might have QQ/KK/AA but that's all he can have there that beats me to play like that. ATOOS was and extremely aggro player and could have all sorts of combination beyond the big pocket pairs. All xx8 combos with gutters (that are dead obv) and he might have even paired the 7 on 4th and raised 3rd with 678 as he is that type of player.

Are you talking about the stud hi table on the left? Where I start with 99|6h?

He might have QQ/KK/AA but that's all he can have there that beats me to play like that. ATOOS was and extremely aggro player and could have all sorts of combination beyond the big pocket pairs. All xx8 combos with gutters (that are dead obv) and he might have even paired the 7 on 4th and raised 3rd with 678 as he is that type of player.

His board is 87T on 5th, apart from 67|87T, which hands do you get value from with your check-raise? Sure, he will spazz out some time, but even aggro players have hands.

His board is 87T on 5th, apart from 67|87T, which hands do you get value from with your check-raise? Sure, he will spazz out some time, but even aggro players have hands.

6787T aside, his weighted range is all combos that have a pair of 8s which he would have played that way. Most of those combos that are stronger also have gutshots in them that are near dead when I hold 996xJ.



This looks about correct for a range:

ProPokerTools Stud Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
dead cards: 7A55
9s9h|6h3hJs 54.09% (324,529 wins, 0 ties)
QQ,KK,AA, 8*,67,79|8d7sTc 45.91% (275,471 wins, 0 ties)

What was tough to add when I'm playing is that:

1. he's over aggro and would raise 1-pair, esp 1-pair + gutter/draw when I'm showing a weak flush board.

2. I called 4th to represent the flush draw.

FWIW, he folded the river, so I'm pretty sure he had one pair that obv could not beat my board. (as in he'd call with QQ, KK, AA).

Counter-proposal on the range:

ProPokerTools Stud Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
dead cards: 7A55
9s9h|6h3hJs 46.63% (279,801 wins, 0 ties)
TT,JJ,QQ,KK,AA, 86+,67,79,9T|8d7sTc 53.37% (320,199 wins, 0 ties)

What was tough to add when I'm playing is that:

1. he's over aggro and would raise 1-pair, esp 1-pair + gutter/draw when I'm showing a weak flush board.

2. I called 4th to represent the flush draw.

You bet-called 4th, his raise should make his range stronger, if he believes you have a flush draw. Still, you check-raised 5th when his board looked scary, which shows a lot of strength on your part.

Going back to 3rd, you completed after an Ace limped and 3bet over his raise.

FWIW, he folded the river, so I'm pretty sure he had one pair that obv could not beat my board. (as in he'd call with QQ, KK, AA).

Well, he also called 6th after you showed strength with a previously raggy board and made an open pair. My inclination would be, that he would have given up, if he only had a gutter or a smaller pair.

All in all I think, since you both put in this much action, his hand should be stronger than you indicated, unless he views you as a spewtard as well.



edit: PPT syntax fail corrected

Counter-proposal on the range:

ProPokerTools Stud Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
dead cards: 7A55
9s9h|6h3hJs 46.63% (279,801 wins, 0 ties)
TT,JJ,QQ,KK,AA, 86+,67,79,9T|8d7sTc 53.37% (320,199 wins, 0 ties)



You bet-called 4th, his raise should make his range stronger, if he believes you have a flush draw. Still, you check-raised 5th when his board looked scary, which shows a lot of strength on your part.

Going back to 3rd, you completed after an Ace limped and 3bet over his raise.



Well, he also called 6th after you showed strength with a previously raggy board and made an open pair. My inclination would be, that he would have given up, if he only had a gutter or a smaller pair.

All in all I think, since you both put in this much action, his hand should be stronger than you indicated, unless he views you as a spewtard as well.



edit: PPT syntax fail corrected

+1 to me being viewed as a spewtard. Thought that was a given with the way I steal on 3rd.

Also, I meant "I called 4th (after he raised) to represent the flush draw."