Great video again. Could someone clarify/give cliff notes what are these pointers from Gergery referred to in the middle of the video and also right in the end?

(also, apologies for being such a moron/pest last Sunday, I have felt really ashamed all week, don't usually drink that many beers...from now on, on topic only)

Great video again. Could someone clarify/give cliff notes what are these pointers from Gergery referred to in the middle of the video and also right in the end?

Basically what Gergery said to me, as I was leaking HUGE w/trips, was be careful when flopping low trips on a board that has another low. As there is a low draw, so the pots are often "cut in half" which doesnt make your equity so great. We are sooooo used to thinking we have a HUGE hand in Hold'em when we flop trips or a set, obv. We have to be very careful in O8 as the pots are split for low. This is why Ray Zee says, in Hi/Low Split, that a set of KK can often be 'strong' (pot equity wise) than a set of AA, since when a set of AA flops there will be a low draw out there often.

And Gergery said to watch your kickers when you make trips, the higher all three your kickers, the better your 'full house draw' as it's so easy to have a huge hands in O8. With 3 overcard kickers we have 9 outs to counterfeit a made full house. Like if you have A5T9 on a 554 flop, this is solid trips. (and a hand that Chuck recently played, btw.) The trips in the example that Chuck played is a tough spot for a Hold'em player. In my learning stage, I would never got away from it like Chuck did, but sure would have played the flop the same. Go back and look at the example, it's clear how dangerous this is for a Hold'em-Donk.

(also, apologies for being such a moron/pest last Sunday, I have felt really ashamed all week, don't usually drink that many beers...from now on, on topic only)

Hey, np, no worries. I have been VERY guilty of drunk-posting in the past! heh!

On the AAJc5c hand pre flop... what is the reason for checking this? The hand has a decent equity edge(conservatively at least 40% equity in a 3 way pot) and we have position on one of the players.

Jeff, I ran a somewhat conservative simulation in the video and it came out to ~39%.

Against two totally random hands I get 46%, that's the best you can get.

Now lets work at a realistic "worst":

Hand Pot equity
AAJc5c 32.71%
As2s87 35.73%
KQ34 31.56%

Now against a suited Ace w/a 2 and a PLO hand:
AAJc5c 33.71%
As2s** 39.85%
KhQhJT 26.44%

One more, w/a sutied Ace w/a 3 and just a KQ:
AAJc5c 36.44%
As3s** 38.44%
KhQh** 25.12%

I'm not sure where you are getting your equity calc from. We dont have a suited Ace, we have a trap-low A5 and really only have a high only hand OOP. Check, play a small pot on a good flop is our best action.

It's not going to take much, like a suited A5s or any A2,A3 to make this a raise as we talk about in the video. AAJc5c, just doesnt have the mustard. Off the top of my head, this hand is about equal to pocket 7s in Hold'em in this situation, cold-equity-wise. I think if you ran some sims, w/77 vs some random hands you'll find about 46% equity, and once you toss in an overcard combo, or suitedness to the other hand your equity will avg about 37% range.

It's close, yes. Just like having 77 here would be close and I'd rather see a flop in a smaller pot w/77 in Limit Holdem.

I found 46% to be the highest, you have 40.6% here. But we are getting nitty with hot/cold equity.

For Hold'em, I was sure 77 was compareable, yes, and 77 is completely debatable, and I feel there will be times I raise it and times I don't. I would need good reads and surely I would raise after on limper and a SB completion.

I can say, there can be times I'd raise AAJc5c but for the purpose of the example, this wasn't one of them. It's pure variance decision as I feel you are around 37%, OOP on avg, which is neutral EV. It comes down to how you want to play postflop and a small pot is going to force your opponents to make mistakes in a split game on a favorable flop for you. Especially with a hand that plays just better than mediocre in mostly one direction in O8. This is theory of poker, I'd rather have my opponents make the mistakes postflop in a small pot.

The extra minute and a half is f***ing brilliant.