Befeltingu
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on the K5 hand dont you think your range looks weak like mostly one pair hands maybe Kx and he would therefore be shoving the river if he hits an ace for value. Also if he can have flopped straights there then you must be assuming he can have SC and probably could have flopped 2 pair and be going for a delayed c/r. I would assume that if he would go for a delayed c/r with a set then he would do it with 2 pair some % of the time. What do you think? Theory wise also you should be towards the top of your range for just flatting the turn right?
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Hi Dani.
Table 1 you ck/r'ed bluffed Suicide King with the A8 on T92r, would you do the same thing with QJ?
I think it's fine w/ QJ, though leading and c/c are also fine options, whereas with A8 I probably would c.c too often. Don't think it is a strong enough hand.
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On the A8s hand on the Top left is your game plan to either go 1 or 3 streets here (i.e. c/r then c/f or c/r bet bet) or are there going to be run outs that you fire turn and c/f river? Also what turn cards are you c/f? im assuming Q, K, T, 9?
Sure, there are some situations where I might give up if I don't like the run out, but most of the time I am probably going to continue here. Doubt I am c/f on Q or K though.
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on the K5 hand dont you think your range looks weak like mostly one pair hands maybe Kx and he would therefore be shoving the river if he hits an ace for value. Also if he can have flopped straights there then you must be assuming he can have SC and probably could have flopped 2 pair and be going for a delayed c/r. I would assume that if he would go for a delayed c/r with a set then he would do it with 2 pair some % of the time. What do you think? Theory wise also you should be towards the top of your range for just flatting the turn right?
eh, he MIGHT jam for value with Ax, you might be right. In reality it would be pretty terrible vs me in that spot I think.
I think he is more likely to go for a delayed c/r with a set or straight than a 2 pair hand.
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What do you think about check/calling the turn and check/raising the river? Villain might turn something into a bluff, you get value from worse Ax. Or do you think he might pot control that a lot? Which Ax do you think are in his range?
Which hand are you talking about?
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I think it's fine w/ QJ, though leading and c/c are also fine options, whereas with A8 I probably would c.c too often. Don't think it is a strong enough hand.
Yeah, definitely A8 is not a great Ax to call a C-bet with for sure. Cool, glad you like all three options with QJ on the rainbow board. If we had QdJd on Th9h2s I think in that case we should play it fast since some of our outs are tainted, so donking, or ck/r is > then ck/call in that spot, and then keep on repping a flush if it comes in.
Thanks, I might have some more questions later, I had to run to the doctor before I got a chance to finish the video.
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Top middle river bet with AK, do you think overbetting is better than 2/3-3/4 pot here to polarize our range and possibly get him to bluffcatch?
With what though? Paired board with an under straight on a 4 card straight board is kind of thin as is.
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Hey Dani,
Table 1 here you 3-bet the 55 vs. the button, I know your logic and why you are doing it, you've covered it a dozen times. My question is this, are you ever 3-bet folding it vs. a tight 4-bettor, would you just outright fold it pre-flop if you didn't think the 5-bet jam would be profitable? I play micro stakes so I don't run into a lot of guys with a high 4 bet frequency.
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chuck651
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Hey Dani,
Table 1 here you 3-bet the 55 vs. the button, I know your logic and why you are doing it, you've covered it a dozen times. My question is this, are you ever 3-bet folding it vs. a tight 4-bettor, would you just outright fold it pre-flop if you didn't think the 5-bet jam would be profitable? I play micro stakes so I don't run into a lot of guys with a high 4 bet frequency.
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Small pp's play really bad in 3bet pots, so there would be no point in 3-betting it vs. a tight 4-bettor. Although, calling would be better than folding pf imo.
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Hey Dani,
Table 1, you flat the cutoff open with KQs. In a previous video you were in a similar situation except you had KQo and you 3-bet the cutoff. My MO with KQo in that situation is to still flat unless I think the co opener is fishy and will call with worse a large % of the time. Are you operating off that logic I just described, or is there a different reason you like 3-betting the KQo btn vs. co? I understand 3-betting KQo vs. UTG, or UTG +1 because you are basically bluffing with blockers, but vs. the co open that is wide enough to flat why are you 3-betting the KQo?
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when u replay a hand, can u do it after the session? its quite annoying to listen and see u drag it all of over the other tables, and then talking like 5sek, play another hand get back to the old hand for 5sek again etc, great video otherwise and always good talking
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when u replay a hand, can u do it after the session? its quite annoying to listen and see u drag it all of over the other tables, and then talking like 5sek, play another hand get back to the old hand for 5sek again etc, great video otherwise and always good talking
I agree with this. I think it'd be a more effective use of your time to do this at the end when you can go through it all at once.
It's a good idea in a 4-tabling video where you end up with some dead spots in the action, but given that you're playing mid stakes against tough players on 6-tables there's not a lot of times when you have nothing to talk about.
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Table 5 w/ ATs, are you donking the flop on purpose or did you think you were cbetting? If you were donking on purpose could you tell why thats good spot to donk and are you planning on barreling much?
probably thought i was cbetting, sorry.
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when u replay a hand, can u do it after the session? its quite annoying to listen and see u drag it all of over the other tables, and then talking like 5sek, play another hand get back to the old hand for 5sek again etc, great video otherwise and always good talking
Agree, this is a good suggestion.
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WIth the Q9 hand I know that you know you can bet this size as a bluff but do you think people in general will put bluffs in your range?
I'd expect him to sometimes think so, especially because he probably expects me to think he'd sometimes raise a q on the flop.
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Ansky
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Hey Dani,
Table 1 here you 3-bet the 55 vs. the button, I know your logic and why you are doing it, you've covered it a dozen times. My question is this, are you ever 3-bet folding it vs. a tight 4-bettor, would you just outright fold it pre-flop if you didn't think the 5-bet jam would be profitable? I play micro stakes so I don't run into a lot of guys with a high 4 bet frequency.
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I'd almost always prefer to 3b/fold than to just fold the first time with 55. I think I'd be playing unreasonably tight if I couldn't 3b 55 there.
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Which rivercards would you call a jam on with K5? Do you expect villain to give up frequently in that spot (on something like a 2h)?
I personally don't see villain checking many rivers with a bluff (maybe on another king), so I'd be very reluctant to fold after calling turn. An ace is not a bad card either (as opposed to 3,5,6,8 or a club).
Combinatorically it's a tough fold as well, I would'nt expect Villain to always call 86s preflop, he's almost definitely folding 63s to a 3x open. We can also discount sets and straights to some extent because of his flop play and he only needs 5 combos of bluffing hands anyways. I'm not saying I hate your fold on the river, but if your assumptions about Villain are correct, it might be better to fold the turn.
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Why not do the replayer hand review before the live action? Impossible to follow 6-tables + commentary on the replayer hand, especially when the replayer is hidden in the background.
A++ series, thanks
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Hi
Table 1 3bet pot with KQo
It is not very common spot to me donking in a 3 bet pot, can you elaborate more? ty
I doubt he goes for multiple streets of value with slightly worse value hands (Kx, pps, 8x). He sometimes checks those hands which hurts me, but if he calls down after I donk I might get 3 streets (and charge draws that might have taken free card on flop.
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sorry, the above post is in regards to rfisch's post above that was missed, time stamp 11.27
I enjoy these fast past vids fwiw, if its too much for some its easier to pause a vid and digest than get bored, lose focus and ultimately end up browsing the web or watching porn 
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TOP left table with KQ on K78ss when you called 3b oop and decide to lead. Im curious why would you lead here? He should know you dont have many bluffs in this spot, and Im sure you CR most of your draws here, if not all of them. So why lead when he will be suspicious of a CR on this drawyB. Also if you dont lead what do you like better CR, or Chkcall? Thanks. Very good video so far.
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In the hand versus timothee on the k73r flop turn A river 8 you say its best to shove most of your range for vlaue and bluffs and that his call is fine bc ajo is the top of his range and he needs to call there to not be exploitable. I'm not sure I agree. Let's take a look at your oop checking range there, maybe 2 combos of kk, half the combos of a7s, maybe 1 combo of a4s, some combos of jts qts, and hands like at+ some percentage. with no backdoor flush draw. I forgot the exact board so I apologize if some of the assumptions are incorrect. I think your betting most of your complete air on that flop for 1 barrel and prob most of your small pairs and mid pairs. You can correct me if I'm wrong about your c-betting ranges. So on a Ace turn, you actually have a decent amount of combos of big aces and 2 pair hands. and very few semi bluffs and pure bluffs. On the river when you overbet shove 2x pot about you actually remove hands like hands at and worse, funky played Kx hands and some combos of aj I think. So in a spot where you have mostly strong value hands and very few pure bluffs, the exploitative play by timothee is to fold aj because its the bottom of your value shipping range I think. The bigger you bet the less hands he has to to call with to avoid being exploited. And while I think your definitely strong enough to exploit a spot like that, I'm not sure how often it comes up with that board and action. The less common the board and action, the less you really have to worry about being exploited. He has negative expectation on his call because of your range and your bet size. And if this is true, you lose too much value from his calling range by overbet shoving then you gain with your bluffs by overbetting(then again he did call but still think its a mistake on his part). I guess the built-in assumption to this whole argument is I doubt your bluffing this spot with total air enough for his call to be correct based on the action as this line makes your range more narrow than if you took a bet bet overshove line where aj is almost a snap call I think. This is just my best guess, I'd like to hear your opinion about it. Sorry about the rambling.
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