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Mentor: Vanessa Selbst (#1) - MTT Hand Review

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Mentor: Vanessa Selbst (#1) - MTT Hand Review by fslexcduck

Vanessa Selbst does some review of MTT hands submitted by DC members.

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  • Game: mttsng
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 69 minutes long
  • Posted about 2 years ago

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Comments for Mentor: Vanessa Selbst (#1) - MTT Hand Review

AMT

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Time Link to 00:17:18

Re: risks early from the AQs hand (my timestamp is gone!)---It's a little different in the 45 man SNGs in terms of appropriate tightness early. I actually think there is some value to ignoring the bias's against confrontation that ICM presents even in what is a pretty flat payout structure, especially earlier (bubble factors much later and such), but in general tight early is still relatively appropriate. Still mostly a preflop game in these things. Just that SNG ICM stuff. I won't hold it against you Smile

Posted over 2 years ago

AMT

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oh and thx for the vid/hand analysis.

Results: Spacegravy tanked, laughed, and folded AK. imo.

Posted over 2 years ago

AMT

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Oh, also- several people have asked me recently what "cubed" refers to when discussing a tournament. Generally it means the 1 rebuy + 1 addon events. So this was the daily stars 50 1r1a ($155) if anyone missed Vanessa's reference to the specific tournament.

Posted over 2 years ago

Soepgroente

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Time Link to 00:15:32

Making it 130 here is bad, you're out of position and you want your opponents to fold. I'd pump it up to 180 here, though anything between 150 and 200 is reasonable imo. This accomplishes two things; one you get the limpers to fold a lot (great result and you get the 105 chips in the pot!) and two if one of them calls you can take down a bigger pot with a c-bet. Also if you do hit and they're dominated you get chips in even easier but that's a minor point with shallow stacks.

I really doubt people are bluffing here and I'd say this is Kx or 77 nearly always.

Posted over 2 years ago

fslexcduck

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I really doubt people are bluffing here and I'd say this is Kx or 77 nearly always.



what tournaments is this based on? i have to say i strongly disagree with this.

Posted over 2 years ago

2Wisdomy

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Grindcore

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Time Link to 00:58:00

You assume I have been 3betting alot, but I haven't. My 3betting image was very tight. The MTT started 300bbs deep and I've just been taking tons of flops to outplay with my cashgame background. I think my stats were like 28/20 with 3% 3b or something. If I had been 3betting/squeezing tons I'd rather 3b despite the tilting fish in the BB.

I bet the river because he checked the turn. It makes no sense for him to check a flush for potcontrol on the turn because he's calling a rivershove anyway so all he does is letting me boat up for free. I agree his flop call discounts sets, but his turn check discounts flushes even more(?).

I timed down about a minute and called vs his 63s for the turned straight flush, the only hand making sense really. The antes had just kicked in (I didn't take that into consideration at the time) and he opened up his game to abuse his image.

Posted over 2 years ago

fslexcduck

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I bet the river because he checked the turn. It makes no sense for him to check a flush for potcontrol on the turn because he's calling a rivershove anyway so all he does is letting me boat up for free. I agree his flop call discounts sets, but his turn check discounts flushes even more(?).



I don't think this is true. It's obviously not just about pot control to check a flush - he also wants to get value... maybe he thinks you turn a pair into a bluff or something, I don't know. Plus you're not usually shoving the river so he does save something against a bigger flush some of the time. Also, if I'm there with a set and someone bets the turn, I'm folding if the bet is big enough. He just has a flush way too damned often. So maybe you can discount it somewhat, but not as much as you are saying. Additionally, you're also not taking into account the times he folds a set to a big river bet, which i would definitely do in his spot and I think he is good enough to lay it down as well. Especially 444, but even 555.

Posted over 2 years ago

molotok

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Time Link to 00:22:21

I'm sorry I was out of town. But here what I have. It was 10+1 tourney with 3322 runners, first place gets $5200 and at this moment there are 650 players left and 495 get paid. I was moved to this table about an orbit ago and didn't have reads on players, but overall the table was passive. On the flop I thought that even a potsize bet would drive away draws, also small check-raise would look like the nuts. I didn't think that q9 was in his range but K might've paired him while he's on the flush draw. Thank you for breaking the hand down, I didn't get much from pocketfives

Posted over 2 years ago

lmagalhaes

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Hey Vanessa, I did not know it the prupose of HH was the Mentor series video. I get it all wrong and I sent you hands that were not questions about how to play them, but rather to put on some video series about MTT.
I miss an opportunity to send some questionable play hands. Anyway it will be next time. Smile
Still watching the video, I am enjoying, good stuff!

Posted about 2 years ago

crunchh

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I don't think this is true. It's obviously not just about pot control to check a flush - he also wants to get value... maybe he thinks you turn a pair into a bluff or something, I don't know. Plus you're not usually shoving the river so he does save something against a bigger flush some of the time. Also, if I'm there with a set and someone bets the turn, I'm folding if the bet is big enough. He just has a flush way too damned often. So maybe you can discount it somewhat, but not as much as you are saying. Additionally, you're also not taking into account the times he folds a set to a big river bet, which i would definitely do in his spot and I think he is good enough to lay it down as well. Especially 444, but even 555.



don t think he checks that many flush:
stack size wise you are getting 33% and a set needs 23%, IMO lots of ppl will consider the extra 7% are made up by the off chance you don't have a flush

he has non nut flush and he should be rightly worried of redraw and even if he is not redrawn a 4th spade either kills the action, puts him in a tuff spot if you shove and betting from his stand point begins debatable as well

if the board pairs he won t like the spot much

so thats a lot of cards that he don t like he might as well shove here and hope for the best

that said I am not very qualified to give advices as I play lower level

Posted about 2 years ago

PanchoStern

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Very good video with great explanation of the hands with no "hurry" on them. Keep em coming.

Posted about 2 years ago

BigJimJones

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Time Link to 00:03:57

I like the idea of shoving.. I mean if Finnian wakes up with KK or AA you save yourself the time of having to play any longer.

Posted about 2 years ago

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