Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Entity (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:20:59

I for sure like leading out in this spot, mainly cause I want to be able to lead out draws/bluffs

For that reason I think he will have to call at least one street with a pretty big portion of the check-back range

Rebecca, the Oink incident is here.

Time Link to 00:55:32

Hmph!

I'm going to stop watching these.

By the way Rob, we gave you a nice shout-out in Elephant Tamer 8 for completing your marathon.

Rebecca, the Oink incident is here.

so great

Hmph!

I'm going to stop watching these.

But you're our hero!! And I even plugged your series

Time Link to 00:15:59

i raise pre here with K2cc. I raise ATC as well , espeically vs someone we know little about or that i suspect is bad. I wanna create the badguy image , where i can get poor players to play back at me in the future. U would not believe the amount of spew tilt i run into after i run good with a bad hand in bvb.

i raise pre here with K2cc. I raise ATC as well , espeically vs someone we know little about or that i suspect is bad. I wanna create the badguy image , where i can get poor players to play back at me in the future. U would not believe the amount of spew tilt i run into after i run good with a bad hand in bvb.

Yeah, like I said, I used to do that too. tbh, I think we tend to overrate how much spew we induce. I also found it was not long before people played back at me, and the way I play, I usually don't need to do anything that encourages people to play back at me.

i raise pre here with K2cc. I raise ATC as well , espeically vs someone we know little about or that i suspect is bad. I wanna create the badguy image , where i can get poor players to play back at me in the future. U would not believe the amount of spew tilt i run into after i run good with a bad hand in bvb.

Keep in mind, when you are a LAG, you tend to make a lot more by making people think you aren't a LAG. Having a tight image but actually playing loose-aggressive is a pretty huge advantage, and I don't think you need to have a > 40% PFR to do that in this spot.

Rob

But you're our hero!! And I even plugged your series

Haha - I didn't have a chance to watch the last half hour until now, so I didn't actually hear that part.

Are you talking about the AJ hand that I thought I should x/f on the river of the QT8 board (can't remember the other two cards - I'm sure they were bricks)?

Wow, extra dig at me at the end!

Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 426680
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with Q Q
UTG calls, 2 folds, BTN raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, BTN calls

Flop: (7.5 SB) Q 5 T (2 players)
Hero bets, BTN calls

Turn: (4.75 BB) T (2 players)
Hero bets, BTN calls

River: (6.75 BB) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets, Hero raises, BTN calls

Wow, extra dig at me at the end!

Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 426680
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with Q Q
UTG calls, 2 folds, BTN raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, BTN calls

Flop: (7.5 SB) Q 5 T (2 players)
Hero bets, BTN calls

Turn: (4.75 BB) T (2 players)
Hero bets, BTN calls

River: (6.75 BB) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets, Hero raises, BTN calls

Hey Chris, is that second line on your HUD everyone's VPIP by position, or their PFR by position?

preflop raise

Keep in mind, when you are a LAG, you tend to make a lot more by making people think you aren't a LAG. Having a tight image but actually playing loose-aggressive is a pretty huge advantage, and I don't think you need to have a > 40% PFR to do that in this spot.

Rob

This is interesting that u mention this rob. Before i started raising ATC when limped to me in the bb , my bb loss rate was a few pips higher. My VPIP from the BB was around 36 and now its 41ish (btw i have also evolved a tab bit/gotten better postflop). Since i have adopted raising atc i have lowered my loss rate. Which in turn has helped my WR. Now im not positive because sample size obviously can affect all of this but i have around 35k sample of not doing it and now i have like 60k sample employing it. there are also other things to consider like type of opponents on your right. Oh and i assume u were talking about VPIP and not PFR like your post suggested.

This is interesting that u mention this rob. Before i started raising ATC when limped to me in the bb , my bb loss rate was a few pips higher. My VPIP from the BB was around 36 and now its 41ish (btw i have also evolved a tab bit/gotten better postflop). Since i have adopted raising atc i have lowered my loss rate. Which in turn has helped my WR. Now im not positive because sample size obviously can affect all of this but i have around 35k sample of not doing it and now i have like 60k sample employing it. there are also other things to consider like type of opponents on your right. Oh and i assume u were talking about VPIP and not PFR like your post suggested.

Don't do this if it'll take you too long to filter for, but it'd be interesting to know approximately how many instances there are in each sample where you had an opportunity to raise a limp BvB.

Also, while this is certainly interesting to me it seems that your improvement as a player overall is very likely to outweigh the strategic merit of either checking or raising in this spot.

Lastly, it would be next to impossible to isolate the effect your play in this specific situation has on your win rate. A play you make in this situation may affect how your opponent's perceive you or the amount of action you're receiving in other situations.

Time Link to 01:21:42

KQo on right, 3way 3bet pot with LAG in BB.

Once we cbet the flop and get x/r by a rather large range (many draws out, esp once the other villain calls 2), what should be our intentions for the rest of the hand if we do not hit? We have a very vulnerable hand that may be best in this large pot. Are we just trying to SD UI for one bet on the big streets?

great vid as usual, all.

gg

KQo on right, 3way 3bet pot with LAG in BB.

Once we cbet the flop and get x/r by a rather large range (many draws out, esp once the other villain calls 2), what should be our intentions for the rest of the hand if we do not hit? We have a very vulnerable hand that may be best in this large pot. Are we just trying to SD UI for one bet on the big streets?

great vid as usual, all.

gg

Since it's 3-ways, I'd probably be folding the turn, but it depends on what comes on the turn. HU I think I'm more inclined to show down assuming no hearts or broadway cards that don't hit me (I don't like 8, T, J overall as they pair up a lot of likely heart draws).

Rob

Having street by street info on the hud is a bit missleading since you rarely have enough of a sample size to really rely on that info.

Having street by street info on the hud is a bit missleading since you rarely have enough of a sample size to really rely on that info.

It depends on what stats you're talking about, but generally speaking I think that's very wrong. Street by street aggression is, in my experience, generally VERY reliable about what it tells you about a player within 150-200 hands.

Rob

It depends on what stats you're talking about, but generally speaking I think that's very wrong. Street by street aggression is, in my experience, generally VERY reliable about what it tells you about a player within 150-200 hands.

Rob

I'm talking about pfr.. and obv position by position not street by street my bad I've played with cbal and eg. his pfr after 500 hands looks completely flat. Just like most players in the video.

I'm talking about pfr.. and obv position by position not street by street my bad I've played with cbal and eg. his pfr after 500 hands looks completely flat. Just like most players in the video.

That's mostly because I suck, but I've actually found it correlates pretty well, and it gets there faster against the guys it's most useful against--the lags. It's not much different than having steal by position up. I try not to put too much stock in the number, but you can find trends in the numbers that are quite useful. And against the regs I have 1k+ against, the numbers are pretty steady.