Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Entity (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:01:06

J9o on the left

I would tend to fold this PF in the 1/3 blind structure. The 7:2 price you're getting to complete is significantly worse than the 5:1 you'd get in a 1 chip/2 chip structure. That said, I don't hate raising in general but I likely wouldn't with this BB (who I think will call a lot).

I also like a flop stab on the KQx.

To l_q's question - if the river bricks (a brick in this case being a board pairing card or an ace) I would check the river since I think there's some chance J high is the best hand. If villain bets I would fold feeling he probably stabbed the flop with something like 87 and then checked the turn defensively when he made a pair (or is butchering something like Qx).

By the way I'd probably leave the right hand table. You're probably still +EV there and you do have about as good a seat as is possible against that lineup, but I just kind of doubt it's worth your time. I'm sure you can find a better table, and pretty quickly/easily too.

By the way I'd probably leave the right hand table. You're probably still +EV there and you do have about as good a seat as is possible against that lineup, but I just kind of doubt it's worth your time. I'm sure you can find a better table, and pretty quickly/easily too.

Def. agree with this.

Rob

Time Link to 00:24:14

A9o on the left - I wasn't really sure where to put the time stamp.

I agree with Boomer on the PF - I think this is a 3-bet but it's near the bottom of my range.

As played I actually favor a flop call. I think the limper will convince himself to make a lot of weak peels - I don't expect he'll think, 'I'm getting 8:1 here,' but I do think he'll see the pot is kind of big (and that he can't be raised) and hope for a good card with stuff like Q8. I also expect Picasso to barrel a lot, especially if we get HU. But I could be wrong about that last part. Jason, it looks like you've played a fair amount with Picasso, so maybe you can tell us a little about his turn barreling frequency.

Boomer, two things I disagree with you on re; the flop. You say UTG will call 2 cold with a pair, which I think is probably true, but I think he doesn't have many pairs in his range when I can see two aces and two nines. Also, I felt your PF 3b comments about Picasso not being showdown bound may be a bit at odds with what you hope/expect him to do with worse and UI hands here.

Time Link to 00:33:13

Re; river check/raise teaching.



It was something like:
-I went for it and missed a ton of times in a row,
-I then finally got one in and the villain folded,
-I succeeded and got paid off and you and DeathDonkey both said it was the worst play you'd ever seen and I shouldn't have done it there.

Time Link to 00:45:37

76o on the left

Funny hand. But in all seriousness I think the turn is a check. I know after the KJ hand Rob said he'd now barrel as a default in many turn spots, but I kind of doubt this is the type of spot he meant. To me one critical difference is that the KJ still has some emergency SD value, whereas this hand does not.

Additionally, villain did not bluff when we checked the turn in the KJ hand, so I actually expect him to give us a free card on the turn pretty regularly when he's unpaired. And, results aside, I'm assuming we need the free card here.

Anyway, FTOP victory! (though you missed raising pre)

Time Link to 00:57:32

I'd definitely cap here PF. If the guy has a tight 3-betting range I think he's still very likely to raise us post flop (since he has so many pairs and so many boards will come 'safe' for him). And if he does hate you he might spew anyway.

Time Link to 01:12:22

Hey Rob,

Here's a reminder to find the DeathDonkey versus Dr.Olsen hand. I'm interested.

Hey Rob,

Here's a reminder to find the DeathDonkey versus Dr.Olsen hand. I'm interested.

Here you go.

Rob

Boomer, two things I disagree with you on re; the flop. You say UTG will call 2 cold with a pair, which I think is probably true, but I think he doesn't have many pairs in his range when I can see two aces and two nines. Also, I felt your PF 3b comments about Picasso not being showdown bound may be a bit at odds with what you hope/expect him to do with worse and UI hands here.

The problem is that even by calling the flop we're showing a lot of strength. How many hands are we going to flat call here on this board with a player behind? I imagine if we do we're raising the turn a ton.

If the original PFR see 2 guys calling this flop, including one he knows to be good/aggressive who has position on him then I expect him to shut down with unpaired worse hands in this spot.

If we raise the turn tbh it's such a monster line I don't expect to get 3-bet by AQ- here (unless turn Q obv in which case sucks to be us) whereas in a way a flop raise looks weaker and looks like a standard "protection Raise" to shove out the LP guy behind and may induce a little more action than a simple overcall.

You're right that my thought process didn't come out too well on the fly, maybe I got kinda jumbled that I'm going to be raising all manner on this guy trying to get him to fold so I'd better keep value hands in there too to remain credible.

By the way I'd probably leave the right hand table. You're probably still +EV there and you do have about as good a seat as is possible against that lineup, but I just kind of doubt it's worth your time. I'm sure you can find a better table, and pretty quickly/easily too.

You're right. I'd usually leave this table too in my "regular" sessions and tbh my decision to stay was affected somewhat by the fact that I was recording since I felt like I had decent reads on most of the table and didn't want to be changing around tables mid-video. I guess that's not really much of an issue though since a lot of you guys change tables on the fly pretty often. I'll definitely keep that in mind next time.

The problem is that even by calling the flop we're showing a lot of strength. How many hands are we going to flat call here on this board with a player behind? I imagine if we do we're raising the turn a ton.

That's true. I'm partly relying on Picasso not noticing / thinking that and just auto barreling, and I am expecting to get some value from UTG sometimes (he peels, picks up a pair/draw and calls two on the turn).

76o on the left

Funny hand. But in all seriousness I think the turn is a check. I know after the KJ hand Rob said he'd now barrel as a default in many turn spots, but I kind of doubt this is the type of spot he meant. To me one critical difference is that the KJ still has some emergency SD value, whereas this hand does not.

Additionally, villain did not bluff when we checked the turn in the KJ hand, so I actually expect him to give us a free card on the turn pretty regularly when he's unpaired. And, results aside, I'm assuming we need the free card here.

If you check the turn here and he checks back (like he did in the KJ hand) are you planning on firing pretty much every river?

If you check the turn here and he checks back (like he did in the KJ hand) are you planning on firing pretty much every river?

I'm a little bit torn just because the pot is so small - we'd need him to fold 2/3 of the time. That said, I definitely like the thought process of course and if the pot were even a little bigger I think it would be clearly correct. As is, I don't think it'd be terrible here.

I'm a little bit torn just because the pot is so small - we'd need him to fold 2/3 of the time. That said, I definitely like the thought process of course and if the pot were even a little bigger I think it would be clearly correct. As is, I don't think it'd be terrible here.

I was thinking that if we are going to bet this flop, then we pretty much have to either bet the turn or the times the turn goes check/check we need to bet the river. Otherwise, it seems we might as well just check the flop v. a loose/passive opp. if we're not planning on putting in any more money UI. Like you said though, a larger pot would make it easier.

Also, I did get the river sexy in one time.

Time Link to 00:04:51

The fact that we have real troubles to put him on a range pf leans me towards playing tighter. However J9o is too much of a hand for me to fold, but it's super close. And like I alwas say in these pot I don't claim what so ver to know the correct play. Rob says smart things about the flop that make sense to me.

Time Link to 00:31:05

Good analysis on the A9o hand. It convincedme that raising is slightly better. I think there's a good chance we will get played back with since Picasson knows we don't have any big aces, so AT+ looks pretty strong for him.

Time Link to 00:28:53

I normally don't like slow playing but I completely agree with waiting at least for the turn to make a raise here. If I remember correctly, UTG is a pretty poor player (I don't have my DB in front of me) but even bad players are able to get away from hands where the board is this dry and there is an Ace on board.

Most of the "bad" players I have played with at 3/6 will limp primarily with suited cards and then fold to aggression if they don't have a solid draw on the flop. This means that raising the flop here will fold out Bucky a large percentage of the time when you can easily get at least one SB out of him and often more on the turn and river.

With that said, if the small blind has a pocket pair he is probably calling regardless of what we do so he is the one we are going to get the value from and the value of waiting vs. raising (and therefore knocking out UTG) here may be neutral.

Time Link to 00:43:22

If you don't check raise with second pair weak kicker here what are you check raising with? Better kicker? What if the board came something like AT8 where you could be representing a flush draw?

I think I often raise here to get more information on the player I'm against (if I don't have much) and to see where I stand in the hand. If I get 3B I call the extra bet and will check/fold the flop depending on how it comes...but I have always thought it might be a little -EV.

hey guys

my thinking to the A9o hand:
If i get called on that flop i give razyn at least a decent hand like Ax.
I think a flop call looks stronger for me then a flopraise.
Imo he could often raise the flop with a gutter or the nine in the hand.

When he calls here on the dry board i give him credit and i dont know what i c/f here at turn, but in this spots i defintly dont auto barrel^^

e.g. if i hold here AJ, i would most of the time play bet/3-bet flop oop and lead the turn.
but if i hold AJ here and get a flatcall at the flop i dont play b/3-bet at turn.
so imo a flopraise would be a bit better because i dont autobarrel any turn when i get a call in this spot at such a dry flop.


but its right, i often miss action, i play atm 12-16 tables at 3/6 and thats a pretty lot, so i tend to play tight that i dont have too much close spots with hard decision postflop.
btw. my wtsd is low, but definitily higher then 33%

nice vid