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Mentor: KRANTZ (#1) - 50NL Review with MarcoPolo by KRANTZ

KRANTZ takes on a new HU protege and they begin with a 50NL video review.

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  • Posted about 3 years ago

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halvadron

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finally at least something to watch from DC Smile

Posted about 3 years ago

illsided

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Great video! Glad to see Krantz review at 50NL.
I had a ? for Jay how do you feel about Marcopolo's constant note taking? Do you feel this could take some of his focus away from the match. It seemed he may have been more focused on his notes than trying to feel his opponent's out game flow wise. Also for Marco sometimes in the video it got frustrating for me when Jay was breaking things down and It seemed like you weren't paying attention or you just wasn't following what he was saying. I would like to hear Marco talk more and explain his thought process in hands.

Posted about 3 years ago

marco

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Great video! Glad to see Krantz review at 50NL.
I had a ? for Jay how do you feel about Marcopolo's constant note taking? Do you feel this could take some of his focus away from the match. It seemed he may have been more focused on his notes than trying to feel his opponent's out game flow wise. Also for Marco sometimes in the video it got frustrating for me when Jay was breaking things down and It seemed like you weren't paying attention or you just wasn't following what he was saying. I would like to hear Marco talk more and explain his thought process in hands.



hey, i was trying to follow everything Jay was saying like it was gospel, but i'll try to work on that.

Posted about 3 years ago

illsided

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Yeah i figured you were. I think it just seemed that way because your weren't saying much.

Posted about 3 years ago

diab0lic

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Einstein's Dreams is fiction as far as I am aware.

Posted about 3 years ago

StnBuddha70

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Time Link to 00:08:17

Hey guys,

Is the x/r size a small leak, or is it okay?

Posted about 3 years ago

inavacuum

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This video is both a wave and a particle.

Posted about 3 years ago

marco

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Hey guys,

Is the x/r size a small leak, or is it okay?




i usually go 3x there, b/c i want to be able to fire big barrels on a good runout. ( it was $6 over $1.9) . What are your thoughts on sizing here? I don't know if going any bigger gets any more folds??

My plan there is to bluff any blank turn 2/3 pot, but i guess i'm really only 3 barrel bluffing on Ax rivers, tho i would like to have a big bet left so i can make him fold.

Posted about 3 years ago

StnBuddha70

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i usually go 3x there, b/c i want to be able to fire big barrels on a good runout. ( it was $6 over $1.9) . What are your thoughts on sizing here? I don't know if going any bigger gets any more folds??

My plan there is to bluff any blank turn 2/3 pot, but i guess i'm really only 3 barrel bluffing on Ax rivers, tho i would like to have a big bet left so i can make him fold.



My 1st thought was the bet size might be too big, not the opposite. Bet flexing is something I used to spend a lot more time thinking about and it was recently brought to my attention that I should give it a lot more thought. Anyway, if it was a mistake (hard to argue either way) it's probably not huge.

Thanks for the input

Posted about 3 years ago

hayes13

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So much envy for MarcoPolo , I know what it is like to get stuck between micro and small stakes. Having Krantz as a coach can't hurt Poke Tongue

Posted about 3 years ago

Ass Get to Jigglin

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So much envy for MarcoPolo , I know what it is like to get stuck between micro and small stakes. Having Krantz as a coach can't hurt Poke Tongue



lol this. Good luck Marco. Looking forward to the rest of these vids.

Posted about 3 years ago

noble

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finally at least something to watch from DC Smile



seriously? you think this is the only series worth watching at DC?

Posted about 3 years ago

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seriously? you think this is the only series worth watching at DC?



I guess what he ment was that it was a long time ago something valueable to watch was out. Its been pretty short on good hu content lately.

Posted about 3 years ago

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Krantz did you realise you were viewing a 50nl HU video ? In my opinion you were rambling too much on abstract concepts and also a little bit too much high level thinking for the average joe you encounter at 50nl HU. Please pay more attention to the actual hands played and adjust according from there. (no need to pinpoint every possible adjustment you can make on every possible line villain could take)

Posted about 3 years ago

illsided

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Krantz did you realise you were viewing a 50nl HU video ? In my opinion you were rambling too much on abstract concepts and also a little bit too much high level thinking for the average joe you encounter at 50nl HU. Please pay more attention to the actual hands played and adjust according from there. (no need to pinpoint every possible adjustment you can make on every possible line villain could take)


lolz at 1 post, you gotta be joking?

Posted about 3 years ago

KRANTZ

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Krantz did you realise you were viewing a 50nl HU video ? In my opinion you were rambling too much on abstract concepts and also a little bit too much high level thinking for the average joe you encounter at 50nl HU. Please pay more attention to the actual hands played and adjust according from there. (no need to pinpoint every possible adjustment you can make on every possible line villain could take)



I kind of agree (w/ the abstract concept part, not the pinpointing adjustments part -- that is relevant at any stakes regardless of skill level), I'll be more conscious of this kind of thing in the future. Hopefully Mark can rein me in if he senses what I'm saying just doesn't make any sense. Everything I say should (hopefully, in an ideal video of this type) make sense for everyone and/or give you guys something to chew on.

It's important to understand that learning poker is all about developing a better understanding of how to think about poker better. Most people playing micros and small stakes aren't thinking about the game correctly -- if they are, it's by accident, or they've got a piece of the puzzle nailed down but the rest is a mess. Looking for a playbook to tell you how to play exact hands in a video like this isn't really useful because the context will always be different when you yourself are at the table playing. There is no one correct way to play pocket eights, for instance... it's always context dependent, and I'm hoping to help you guys improve your methods of evaluating and understanding those shifting contexts.

Posted about 3 years ago

straddle2x

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krantz do you have a reccomendation for a 6max player looking to start heads up as far as videos go here? I have been getting killed heads up at the nl 50 level great vid thanks

Posted about 3 years ago

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krantz do you have a reccomendation for a 6max player looking to start heads up as far as videos go here? I have been getting killed heads up at the nl 50 level great vid thanks



pr1nnyraiding and dogisheadsup, and bosoxx's videos

Posted about 3 years ago

KRANTZ

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24offsuits latest video series looks like it would be great for you too

Posted about 3 years ago

hayes13

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"It's important to understand that learning poker is all about developing a better understanding of how to think about poker better. Most people playing micros and small stakes aren't thinking about the game correctly -- if they are, it's by accident, or they've got a piece of the puzzle nailed down but the rest is a mess. Looking for a playbook to tell you how to play exact hands in a video like this isn't really useful because the context will always be different when you yourself are at the table playing. There is no one correct way to play pocket eights, for instance... it's always context dependent, and I'm hoping to help you guys improve your methods of evaluating and understanding those shifting contexts."
+1
How did MarcoPolo luckbox his way into a series with you? Micros shirt? Poke Tongue

Posted about 3 years ago

Jniggs

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@ KRANTZ

I'm a little be confused about that dry flop that we got raised and you said his range is more towards being a bluff or a weak hand.

My understanding from your thoughts is, because we didnt go out of line so far in the match there is no reason for him to raise us on this board, did i get it right?! im just talking about specifying his range that he raise us on this board (obviously the board didnt help us that much but in the same time its unlikely the board improve him that much that he can raise)
My second question is, what kind of image we should have had so this raise from him in a 3bet pot on this board is a more likely that is not a bluff and if we shove we get call most of the time with a strong hand?!

I love the way you explain, when i ask different situation from they know what to do but they dont really know why, which i guess they just memorize it... Grin i think its very very important to know why you take different line of action. hope we see more videos from you.

Posted about 3 years ago

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It's important to understand that learning poker is all about developing a better understanding of how to think about poker better. Most people playing micros and small stakes aren't thinking about the game correctly -- if they are, it's by accident, or they've got a piece of the puzzle nailed down but the rest is a mess. Looking for a playbook to tell you how to play exact hands in a video like this isn't really useful because the context will always be different when you yourself are at the table playing. There is no one correct way to play pocket eights, for instance... it's always context dependent, and I'm hoping to help you guys improve your methods of evaluating and understanding those shifting contexts.



Exactly. Smile
Great vid, looking forward to the rest of the series with you two!

Posted about 3 years ago

redlinenightmare

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Time Link to 00:20:13

With the 78 what happens if we get raised what is the plan?

Posted about 3 years ago

marco

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My understanding from your thoughts is, because we didnt go out of line so far in the match there is no reason for him to raise us on this board, did i get it right?! im just talking about specifying his range that he raise us on this board (obviously the board didnt help us that much but in the same time its unlikely the board improve him that much that he can raise)
My second question is, what kind of image we should have had so this raise from him in a 3bet pot on this board is a more likely that is not a bluff and if we shove we get call most of the time with a strong hand?!
.



hey,

obv, i'm not Krantz, but i'll give you my take on this hand ( I assume you mean QJs on 963r or something like that?)

I had been fairly aggro, and had 2-barred a few times. So, villain should expect me to keep firing, if he's aware at all. Also, look at the board, its very hard for him to have a hand than can be raising for value. A9 or TT would really be the only value hands, while at the same time, they would be a bad raise given my aggression and the dynamic.

if you contrast that with the last hand of the video, where i call it off with ATo on 764cc, 7o Turn, the villain's raise on 764cc is much stronger. He might raise any set here, any 2pair, any draw ( 45, 56), etc, etc. So if i jammed here, i can't really count on much FE.

As for your 2nd question, board texture really plays a key here. But if you want to bet / 3bet on 963r and get called alot, you prob have to look like a psycho.

Posted about 3 years ago

KRANTZ

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hey,

obv, i'm not Krantz, but i'll give you my take on this hand ( I assume you mean QJs on 963r or something like that?)

I had been fairly aggro, and had 2-barred a few times. So, villain should expect me to keep firing, if he's aware at all. Also, look at the board, its very hard for him to have a hand than can be raising for value. A9 or TT would really be the only value hands, while at the same time, they would be a bad raise given my aggression and the dynamic.



this, + if he has those value hands (he can have more/stronger value hands too -- like if he slowplayed an overpair), what's the point of raising with them? you would just fold your bluffs. it makes way more sense to let you see the turn. try to mentally swap places with him. if you are in his shoes, do you have a reason to raise A9 or TT? a set? what are the pros/cons?

Posted about 3 years ago

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With the 78 what happens if we get raised what is the plan?



call, see what the river brings (what card, if he bets, what amount he bets)

Posted about 3 years ago

Ass Get to Jigglin

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this, + if he has those value hands (he can have more/stronger value hands too -- like if he slowplayed an overpair), what's the point of raising with them? you would just fold your bluffs. it makes way more sense to let you see the turn. try to mentally swap places with him. if you are in his shoes, do you have a reason to raise A9 or TT? a set? what are the pros/cons?



Vs players who are good hand-readers and are "high-intensity" in that they will act on their reads, don't you think it's good to value raise in spots like this where you rep a very narrow value range in order to induce action from him? I guess it's a classic leveling spot, but value raising in a spot like this allows you to a) get a read on how he might react in these types of spots where you rep nothing and b) if it goes to showdown, you can start bluffing on these boards where both players often have nothing. The arguments for just calling are good as well, but aren't there some good arguments for raising too? I mean, on the one hand you say if he value raises we just fold all our bluffs so he shouldn't be value raising, but if we want to jam 2 overcards here or oop float, then we aren't folding all our bluffs.

Posted about 3 years ago

marco

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Vs players who are good hand-readers and are "high-intensity" in that they will act on their reads, don't you think it's good to value raise in spots like this where you rep a very narrow value range in order to induce action from him? I guess it's a classic leveling spot, but value raising in a spot like this allows you to a) get a read on how he might react in these types of spots where you rep nothing and b) if it goes to showdown, you can start bluffing on these boards where both players often have nothing. The arguments for just calling are good as well, but aren't there some good arguments for raising too? I mean, on the one hand you say if he value raises we just fold all our bluffs so he shouldn't be value raising, but if we want to jam 2 overcards here or oop float, then we aren't folding all our bluffs.



my take on this is that its very villain + game-flow dependent, but that in a vacuum its not optimal b/c its hard to get played back at by worse without history. It would be much different if you knew the opponent would respond with a lite 3bet, but without that read, we are just hoping he plays back at us when he is likely to be bluffing and we have a pretty strong hand.

I'm very much open for debate on the following....

It seems you are getting into sacrificing EV just to "balance" your ranges, which I disagree with in theory. I understand the reasoning you gave, but I prefer to just play the next spot based on history, and adjust to that. While we can't bluff raise the next board, we can float it, and he has to worry about us being pretty strong. ( so its a different benefit, but still a benefit).

The problem with raising is, we always rep a really narrow range, and we don't necessarily want to be raising our strong hands on 963r.

Posted about 3 years ago

KRANTZ

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Vs players who are good hand-readers and are "high-intensity" in that they will act on their reads, don't you think it's good to value raise in spots like this where you rep a very narrow value range in order to induce action from him? I guess it's a classic leveling spot, but value raising in a spot like this allows you to a) get a read on how he might react in these types of spots where you rep nothing and b) if it goes to showdown, you can start bluffing on these boards where both players often have nothing. The arguments for just calling are good as well, but aren't there some good arguments for raising too? I mean, on the one hand you say if he value raises we just fold all our bluffs so he shouldn't be value raising, but if we want to jam 2 overcards here or oop float, then we aren't folding all our bluffs.



yah vs good players, "high intensity" (i like that i may steal it Smile), those are good arguments for raising. i don't see those conditions in place here, though. it's all about context!

Posted about 3 years ago

inavacuum

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You'd be stealing the phrase from Phil Galfond Smile

Posted about 3 years ago

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call, see what the river brings (what card, if he bets, what amount he bets)



Ok cool, so we call river bricks he bets like 3/4?

ty

Posted about 3 years ago

Ass Get to Jigglin

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You'd be stealing the phrase from Phil Galfond Smile



lol yeah unfortunately I didn't make that up haha

Posted about 3 years ago

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Ok cool, so we call river bricks he bets like 3/4?

ty



probably cringe and call. too strong to fold without better reads

Posted about 3 years ago

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Here villain cbets J3o in a Ac9s7s flop with no equity at all (no overcards and not even BD draws) in a board not that dry, despite being ace-high. I can´t see good cards to barrel the turn, is it a good cbet in the fist place?

Posted about 3 years ago

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Here villain cbets J3o in a Ac9s7s flop with no equity at all (no overcards and not even BD draws) in a board not that dry, despite being ace-high. I can´t see good cards to barrel the turn, is it a good cbet in the fist place?



lots of good turn/river cards to barrel. when you get c/c on this flop you should be able to get plenty of hands <Ax to fold

Posted about 3 years ago

hayes13

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im thinking we are barrelling bricks on the turn then? since J-6 connects with an oop calling range?

Posted about 3 years ago

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Here on 926 we get raised with QJ. Let's say we opt to float and the turn is a Jack, villain bets that and bets a river that does not complete any OESD are we going all the way with a jack given that this guy has shown very little aggression? I personally would be concerned about a set or at least an over pair if he raises flop bets turn and river.

What if we float, the turn is a jack but the river is a T or 5 that completes 78 and he bets OTT and shoves or bets big OTR are we calling down with QJ then?

Same scenario but the turn is a queen does that change anything? we now beat more hands but QJ on 926J and QJ on 926Q is roughly the same hand right?

Posted over 2 years ago

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I am a brand new member of Deucescracked and a beginner in 50nl headsup. wondering does the material on these videos go out of date after a few months or does it stay 100% relevant - have the games changed and has the standard got better ??

Posted over 2 years ago

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I am a brand new member of Deucescracked and a beginner in 50nl headsup. wondering does the material on these videos go out of date after a few months or does it stay 100% relevant - have the games changed and has the standard got better ??



The content stays mostly relevant, although the newer the video is the more up to date it will be. Theory based videos are almost timeless, video reviews less so. I'd say for 2012, any video from 2011 (especially after 4/15) is going to be more or less in tune with the way games are playing now. If you're a beginner I would watch some of the structured heads up series first: try pr1nnyraiding 1, 2 and 3 or Heads Upside Down

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Here on 926 we get raised with QJ. Let's say we opt to float and the turn is a Jack, villain bets that and bets a river that does not complete any OESD are we going all the way with a jack given that this guy has shown very little aggression? I personally would be concerned about a set or at least an over pair if he raises flop bets turn and river.

What if we float, the turn is a jack but the river is a T or 5 that completes 78 and he bets OTT and shoves or bets big OTR are we calling down with QJ then?

Same scenario but the turn is a queen does that change anything? we now beat more hands but QJ on 926J and QJ on 926Q is roughly the same hand right?



calling down if you hit a pair -- the cards that improve us are enticing bluff cards for him. i wouldn't be worried about 78, most players are flatting the flop with that hand. if you have a good read that your opponent only raises the flop and then always shuts down if called, then you could argue that a turn or river fold is better... but you need a good read.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Good example of why playing aggressively has hidden benefits. This type of thing happens to a lot of people when they're faced with a really LAG opponent, especially one that's 3betting pre a lot because everyone hates getting 3bet. What I'm suggesting is to go back to that KQ hand (I know it was a different opponent, just making a point) where you got 4bet and consider shoving that next time around for the sake of how it will change your opponents game. If you take everything on a hand by hand basis you won't really be crushing people because whenever people are comfortable they're going to play fairly well (maybe not always at low stakes but still).

Also it seems that your notetaking might be a little too distracting at points ... I'm not sure you really need all those notes more than you need to just focus on the current hand and analyze it correctly, maybe just note the more "telling" hands.

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im looking for coaching hu and and how much an hour damn this is so interesting

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