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Road to Robusto NL: Episode Four

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Road to Robusto NL: Episode Four by tubasteve

Tubasteve goes in hand history review mode, reviewing recent hands he played in true robusto fashion.

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  • 86 minutes long
  • Posted over 2 years ago

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Comments for Road to Robusto NL: Episode Four

TazUltimate

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Just got this finished. Wmv to come shortly. Enjoy and as always thanks for your patience.
-Rusty

Posted over 2 years ago

tubasteve

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(waaaaaaaatch meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee)

-the video

Wink

Posted over 2 years ago

jonk

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(waaaaaaaatch meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee)

-the video

Wink



Yes sir, video sir!

Posted over 2 years ago

Icehockeyplyr

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DLing now. Be back as soon as Im finished watching.

Oh and PS: thanks for screw'n up my nap at work. hehe

Posted over 2 years ago

spotDEspot

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Some really useful stuff there. Had some interesting stats when looking at the filters you used - some not what I expected (in a good way) and some really bad....don't call that river raise from the fish who CAN'T have it....oh yes he can. I have also been doing really badly Vs flop c/r - definitely some run bad/coolers there though Vs fish but spews Vs more competent villains.

Interesting filter I tried that is a part of my game I have been working on - raising donk bets. Then play about with it in terms of hand strength as obviously results are good when you raise when strong but how often do you raise with air/weaker hands and what are the results.

FLOP WAS BET IN TO = TRUE
FLOP RAISE = TRUE

Need to go and check when I was donked in to and didn't raise now....

Posted over 2 years ago

z324739

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Good stuff.

With Hem filters U can do wonders to ur game. I was lazy ass and bought commercial package. Now I just need to do the analyzing part, lol...

About Baluga theorem: its kinda easy to understand, but when in the heat of battle, finding the fold button is sometimes difficult to do. It wud be nice to see ghost video about this. Like a hand history review where U fold (or raise) ur made hand on flop or later streets based on ur reads/stats on HEM.

Tada...

Posted over 2 years ago

LaserFaser

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You mentioned in the video that you 3-bet all AJ hands, but acctually it meant that you atleast called with AJ hence (sp?) you didnt fold that hand. Around 1.14 in the video.

Great stuff btw.

Posted over 2 years ago

supsis

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tubasteve

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Good stuff.

With Hem filters U can do wonders to ur game. I was lazy ass and bought commercial package. Now I just need to do the analyzing part, lol...

About Baluga theorem: its kinda easy to understand, but when in the heat of battle, finding the fold button is sometimes difficult to do. It wud be nice to see ghost video about this. Like a hand history review where U fold (or raise) ur made hand on flop or later streets based on ur reads/stats on HEM.

Tada...




well the thing is, its not even worth the time...it would just be a bunch of hands of me bet/folding the turn or river, which idk seems boring. flop AK on A56r, get raised on a T turn? instafold. rinse and repeat.

Posted over 2 years ago

zgpwns

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great video ..
best of the series so far
i hope u do one more nl25 live play video before moving to 50nl

Posted over 2 years ago

tubasteve

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You mentioned in the video that you 3-bet all AJ hands, but acctually it meant that you atleast called with AJ hence (sp?) you didnt fold that hand. Around 1.14 in the video.

Great stuff btw.




good call. if you couldn't tell i was a bit confused at the time so thanks for the clarification. Smile

Posted over 2 years ago

Monsteroso

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This video is soooooo longggggg zzzzzzz. lol~
It prompted me to really open/explore my HEM yesterday.
I honestly think this kind of video has the most value for micro users.
The how-to-diy kinda things...

Posted over 2 years ago

Icehockeyplyr

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Tubasteve,

Thank you! This is an excellent video, has to be one of my favorite video's. I really like more of the analyzing play aspect of videos rather than watching someone play "If that makes sense".I also think we need more videos like it at the micro level to help reinforce the fact of going over HH's.

If I may suggest just one thing. I think this is a very important video in a lot of ways and I would hate to see get "buried" (for lack of a better word) in the middle of series and missed by some new comers to DC. Is there a way to add to the "Tags" of the video? I'm no sure its a "NLHE" video but more of a "Tools/other" type video.

Again thank you for taking the time to do something like this. I hope to see more HEM related video's, in Micro series.

Posted over 2 years ago

GooNKiLLeR

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What kind of information do you take for granted when commenting? For instance it's pretty apparent that you're constructing villain's ranges in your head and maybe automatically and subconsciously.

What kind of thinking do i need to do to eventually reach your train of thought? Is the way you think about poker now similar to when you began? Unfortunately, the way i think prob isn't great for poker, but maybe there are just some fundamentals that i am missing.

This probably isn't a very relevant question to this video in particular but i think it is relevant to the series.

Posted over 2 years ago

tubasteve

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What kind of information do you take for granted when commenting? For instance it's pretty apparent that you're constructing villain's ranges in your head and maybe automatically and subconsciously.

What kind of thinking do i need to do to eventually reach your train of thought? Is the way you think about poker now similar to when you began? Unfortunately, the way i think prob isn't great for poker, but maybe there are just some fundamentals that i am missing.

This probably isn't a very relevant question to this video in particular but i think it is relevant to the series.




the best suggestion i can give is to 1) watch that dogishead video about your poker schema and 2) watch me in FTGU and then in the coaching tree seasons 1 and 2 to see how i have progressed. hell, i have some pretty old vids too that would shed even more insight.

kinda neat in a way that my own poker and teaching skills are well documented right here on this site. Smile

how would you say your thinking differs from mine?

Posted over 2 years ago

tubasteve

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Tubasteve,

Thank you! This is an excellent video, has to be one of my favorite video's. I really like more of the analyzing play aspect of videos rather than watching someone play "If that makes sense".I also think we need more videos like it at the micro level to help reinforce the fact of going over HH's.

If I may suggest just one thing. I think this is a very important video in a lot of ways and I would hate to see get "buried" (for lack of a better word) in the middle of series and missed by some new comers to DC. Is there a way to add to the "Tags" of the video? I'm no sure its a "NLHE" video but more of a "Tools/other" type video.

Again thank you for taking the time to do something like this. I hope to see more HEM related video's, in Micro series.



glad you liked it Grin

Posted over 2 years ago

tubasteve

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http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/600-Episode-One?seek=836

Footnote link to the Schema discussion in the DOGISHAED video...




hollaaaaa

Posted over 2 years ago

tubasteve

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Some really useful stuff there. Had some interesting stats when looking at the filters you used - some not what I expected (in a good way) and some really bad....don't call that river raise from the fish who CAN'T have it....oh yes he can. I have also been doing really badly Vs flop c/r - definitely some run bad/coolers there though Vs fish but spews Vs more competent villains.

Interesting filter I tried that is a part of my game I have been working on - raising donk bets. Then play about with it in terms of hand strength as obviously results are good when you raise when strong but how often do you raise with air/weaker hands and what are the results.

FLOP WAS BET IN TO = TRUE
FLOP RAISE = TRUE

Need to go and check when I was donked in to and didn't raise now....



very nice, i would encourage others to post some of their favorite filters as well

Posted over 2 years ago

Icehockeyplyr

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I use these filters

Saw river = True
Bet river = false
River call = True
River raise = false
saw showdown = true
Won hand =true

I believe this set up allows me to make sure I get value out of hands on the river. I felt big part that was missing in my game was betting for value on the river.

Posted over 2 years ago

PATheDeuce

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This was a really great video, Steve. I've been looking to get more out of HEM recently and this video along with jk3a's Mentor video has been super super helpful.

Thanks

Posted over 2 years ago

eeyore

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Thank you, Tuba.

Before yesterday this hand would not have been possible.

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 310707
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: $12.95
SB: $24.00
BB: $41.00
UTG: $26.70
MP: $34.85
Hero (CO): $47.85

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with A Spade A Heart
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.50) 6 Club 8 Spade 8 Diamond (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BTN folds, SB calls $2.50

Turn: ($7.50) 5 Diamond (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.50, SB raises to $13.50, Hero folds

Final Pot: $18.50
SB wins $17.60
(Rake: $0.90)

Learning is a painfull, but wonderful thing.

Posted over 2 years ago

tubasteve

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Thank you, Tuba.

Before yesterday this hand would not have been possible.

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 310707
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: $12.95
SB: $24.00
BB: $41.00
UTG: $26.70
MP: $34.85
Hero (CO): $47.85

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with A Spade A Heart
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.50) 6 Club 8 Spade 8 Diamond (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BTN folds, SB calls $2.50

Turn: ($7.50) 5 Diamond (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.50, SB raises to $13.50, Hero folds

Final Pot: $18.50
SB wins $17.60
(Rake: $0.90)

Learning is a painfull, but wonderful thing.



awesome fold! he has 8x or 79 there nearly always.

Posted over 2 years ago

tubasteve

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This was a really great video, Steve. I've been looking to get more out of HEM recently and this video along with jk3a's Mentor video has been super super helpful.

Thanks




Well that is actually exactly what I had in mind...I didn't watch his entire video but I thought my more structured/powerpoint approach would go well with his general approach. FWIW many of my individual lessons are just like his review.

Glad you liked it!

Posted over 2 years ago

nutshell

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Is it possible to do the same analysis in PT3? I probably just don't know where to look, but for example I'm not sure how to filter to just 2P+ hands.

Posted over 2 years ago

tubasteve

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Is it possible to do the same analysis in PT3? I probably just don't know where to look, but for example I'm not sure how to filter to just 2P+ hands.




unfortunately i am not the one to ask, as i don't own PT3, but i'm sure you can do it somehow.

Posted over 2 years ago

stryder67

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First, great, great video! I have watched it 2-3 times and am on my 4th time watching and taking notes.
I'm not sure its been mentioned before but I will. When your talking about filtering to see hands for value around 34 min mark, 2ndpair or >, you selecting a couple of filters. one pair-paired board. Well that gives you hands where you DIDNT have a pair while the board is paired. I dont think you want those hands filtered into your value hands do you?

Posted over 2 years ago

seventhsense

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Time Link to 00:25:00

ffs steve you dont half rattle on.. try to be more concise for a noob its hard as you start a point then digress massivley.... i like your vids i themain and takeplenty from them but man you make it hard on us sometimes

Posted over 2 years ago

seventhsense

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ffs steve you dont half rattle on.. try to be more concise for a noob its hard as you start a point then digress massivley.... i like your vids i themain and takeplenty from them but man you make it hard on us sometimes




ok so i got a coffee and watched the vid without multi tasking and its going to be very useful to use these filters when i get to a certain number of hands (say 100k). il do a review session then.

very useful vid in the end (defo glad i watched it through and took notes galore to go back to when i do a review sessions like this) but im sure you could have been more concise - bullet points ftw

keep um coming tuba Smile

Posted over 2 years ago

Acombfosho

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tubasteve

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can u post the powerpoint?



hey josh im not on my laptop right now but remind me if i don't get to it in the next couple of days. honestly i'm not even sure if i still have the ppt but i will check.

Posted over 2 years ago

Sneakers

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Hey Steve,
I first watched this series when I had a few thousand hands. Now that I have over 200k hands, I am going through the series again. This part (using HEM) was very useful. I spent quite a bit of time, stopping the video and experimenting with HEM.

I'm glad I watched this series again. Thanks for the effort at helping us micros.

Posted about 2 years ago

identifier

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Hey tuba, I'm looking forward to this. Sounds like just what I need right now.

Posted about 2 years ago

zenben

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I don't really like this v-bet on the river. Sure, we don't know much about villain, but even if his most likely hand is 5x, the only one we beat is A5s that is not hearts, which leaves 2 combos. 65s are straights or flushes, 45s is a boat. Unless he has 88, or we think he is super loose and calls our UTG PFR and ch/C to SD with hands like 75s or 53s which we counterfit, we don't beat many hands.

You say you would expect him to bet on the river or raise previously with many hands that beat us-I disagree. He may ch/raise the flop or turn with the few 4x in his range, but on a paired board when the BDFD hits and the flop FD misses, I know a lot of rec. players who ch/C with 1-card straights and even may do so with some 4x that they slowplayed or 77 that caught the 2nd nuts on the river hoping you bluff when you have a missed FD, or just not thinking about your range at all and expecting you to keep betting because you bet the last 2 streets.

As you stated in the beginning of the video, players at 25NL don't vbet very well. Therefore we have to figure that most villains will ch/C with stronger hands than in the higher limits. Our turn barrel is definitely good, but this river card makes it very difficult for villain to call us with worse. I would check back here with 99 and expect to beat his missed draws and lose to most pairs, but vbet a hand as weak as TT/JJ figuring he has a few more combos of worse pairs to get value from. It's obv close, but I'd save my 500bb for a spot where I know villain has enough worse hands to call often enough to make the vbet +ev.

Posted over 1 year ago

zenben

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Time Link to 01:16:48

Term for hands that you normally fold or 3bet=top of your folding range.
I believe Grindcore was the first to use this term, but I could be wrong.

Posted over 1 year ago

tubasteve

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I don't really like this v-bet on the river. Sure, we don't know much about villain, but even if his most likely hand is 5x, the only one we beat is A5s that is not hearts, which leaves 2 combos. 65s are straights or flushes, 45s is a boat. Unless he has 88, or we think he is super loose and calls our UTG PFR and ch/C to SD with hands like 75s or 53s which we counterfit, we don't beat many hands.

You say you would expect him to bet on the river or raise previously with many hands that beat us-I disagree. He may ch/raise the flop or turn with the few 4x in his range, but on a paired board when the BDFD hits and the flop FD misses, I know a lot of rec. players who ch/C with 1-card straights and even may do so with some 4x that they slowplayed or 77 that caught the 2nd nuts on the river hoping you bluff when you have a missed FD, or just not thinking about your range at all and expecting you to keep betting because you bet the last 2 streets.

As you stated in the beginning of the video, players at 25NL don't vbet very well. Therefore we have to figure that most villains will ch/C with stronger hands than in the higher limits. Our turn barrel is definitely good, but this river card makes it very difficult for villain to call us with worse. I would check back here with 99 and expect to beat his missed draws and lose to most pairs, but vbet a hand as weak as TT/JJ figuring he has a few more combos of worse pairs to get value from. It's obv close, but I'd save my 500bb for a spot where I know villain has enough worse hands to call often enough to make the vbet +ev.




yeah. i rewatched for a minute, i still think if you have an overpair on the river when your opponent is c/c down in a micro game you should pretty much always go for the 3rd barrel, esp when the guy has played 6/7 of the hands we've been at the table for. although it is only 7 hands, this makes it incredibly likely that he is a fish (esp considering he only raised 2 of them). perhaps i could bet smaller, but checking back seems far too weak.

i also don't understand why you assume his range is so tight for 5x hands. why can't he have A5o? K5s? 56o? etc...

final edit: yeah, ok rewatched one more time...i think if i were to play this hand today i wouldn't overbet jam the river w/out history. but i definitely wouldn't check back either.

Posted over 1 year ago

zenben

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i also don't understand why you assume his range is so tight for 5x hands. why can't he have A5o? K5s? 56o? etc...

final edit: yeah, ok rewatched one more time...i think if i were to play this hand today i wouldn't overbet jam the river w/out history. but i definitely wouldn't check back either.




I guess A5o/K5s/65o are possible, but since we raised UTG, I figured villain will have a tighter range-I guess we don't know this for sure given how few hands we have on him. betting small and folding to a raise might be better than checking-it all depends on villain's range. I think thats a good defult until we are more sure of his range. I didn't think of that option.

If we were facing a TAG or maybe a weak TAG-fish type, would checking back be better, or can we still bet small and eek out some value?

Posted over 1 year ago

tubasteve

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If we were facing a TAG or maybe a weak TAG-fish type, would checking back be better, or can we still bet small and eek out some value?



against a tag i would probably still bet like 1/2 pot or something. we really only lose to TT/JJ and slowplays, and i don't think tags are quite as slowplay-happy as fish.

when in doubt i go for the thin value, and then adjust if my opponent surprises me.

Posted over 1 year ago

zenben

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against a tag i would probably still bet like 1/2 pot or something. we really only lose to TT/JJ and slowplays, and i don't think tags are quite as slowplay-happy as fish.

when in doubt i go for the thin value, and then adjust if my opponent surprises me.



So you expect TAG's to bet out on the river with a flush or a 6 for a straight? OR are you saying they would have raised previously with a draw?

I agree they are less likely to slowplay trips and boats, but I'm not so sure they would ch/raise or lead this turn with a BDFD or 6x and may still not bet out on the river (though maybe they should?)

Then again, if we get ch/raised on the river, we can just fold, so that's not the worst thing in the world, given they are never doing this with worse, unless they ch/shove a missed flop FD.

Posted over 1 year ago

karmabobby

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Holy crap, I had been so confused when trying to look for leaks. TOP CLASS VIDEO Steve TOP CLASS

Posted about 1 year ago

mnml

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GREAT VIDEO! Could locate some of my leaks!!! THANKS SO MUCH!

Posted about 1 year ago



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