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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by tubasteve (Micro/Small Stakes)

Wanted to get this out ASAP. Wmv to follow within an hour. Enjoy.
-Rusty

Fantastic..... been checking all day.

Thanks very much Steve!

16:00 table 3- I think this is a great spot to 2 barrel J8ss on Kxxss x board. So many midpairs that I'd expect to get fold from, alright equity when called.

this seems like a pretty good case of: pot equity + fold equity = aggression

Gotta say I really did not care for the shove on the 666 hand. I would smooth call and maybe even fire a second donk bet on the turn, a small bet which my pro roommate says is an "obv hoover bet." We both think the push was the worst play.

Steve you are ALWAYS on your vid making Agame!!!!!

Gotta say I really did not care for the shove on the 666 hand. I would smooth call and maybe even fire a second donk bet on the turn, a small bet which my pro roommate says is an "obv hoover bet." We both think the push was the worst play.

i didn't really expect him to be raise/folding a made hand, and shoving is the best way to rep a draw, although at this limit ppl might not pick up on that line. i suspect he had air since he folded, but given the connected nature of the board, i didn't want a diamond/straight/overcard to fall killing my action.

Seriously? at 9:30 You are making a note on a player you will probably never play again. You already said you weren't going to be sticking around 10nl for very long.

Steve is probably just setting a good example for all viewers.

Steve,

First off thank you for the 10nl video. I'm greatful for a lower limit video. I was playing 2nl break even prior to DC, and I just moved up this weekend to 5nl. I am hoping that this continues and I will be able to afford 1 or 2 or 10 coaching sessions.
The reason I like the lower limit video's is I feel that a lot of minor things get over looked in the higher limit video's. Its seems like when DCers do video's they treat the video watcher as someone who plays the stake the video is at "If that makes sense". I'm sure it does as I bet the players watching 200nl videos don't wanna hear about positional awareness being hammered home every few minutes. Again thank you for your time at the lower limits!

Now on to the video.
At 09:10 of the video 66 hand you donk out the flop and get raised then ship. What about (you bet .8 he raises to $2) a little more than min reraise vrs a shove? The min reraise is to about $3.20, what about making it $4-$4.5 (raising 2-2.5) giving us about $5-$4.5 left and allowing him to think he may have FE if he ships? Any way my thoughts are that by us 3bet shipping, it only leaves him with one play, the right one, to fold hands we beat. What if we 3bet? We now give him two options one wrong one, and one right one.

Time Link to 00:44:34

Episode 2 of Memoirs of a Limidonk has a fairly thorough analysis of calling 3bets with pp's to set mine. In short - don't!

If you're enjoying this series, check out this thread!

Deuces Cracked University will have this series as its first class!

Seriously? at 9:30 You are making a note on a player you will probably never play again. You already said you weren't going to be sticking around 10nl for very long.

Seriously, not trying to be like WAT, but the answer to your question is:

Steve is probably just setting a good example for all viewers.

I mean LDO

Time Link to 00:05:33

You mention in passing that your relative position is actually good as opposed to your actual position. I doubt many people picked up on it, but this is a good topic to discuss for those who may be unaware.

Time Link to 00:51:43

Really? Ever? Ever, ever, ever?

lol

Nice moment in the video.

Board: 8h 5s 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.879% 47.88% 00.00% 474 0.00 { 9c8c }
Hand 1: 52.121% 52.12% 00.00% 516 0.00 { 7s6s }

Board: 8h 5s 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.859% 45.86% 00.00% 454 0.00 { 9c8c }
Hand 1: 54.141% 54.14% 00.00% 536 0.00 { JsTs }


pretty much. i don't think i would flatcall OOP with A7s or worse and thats the only semi-bluffing hand that isn't a favorite vs his hand, and i never have a worse made hand unless its a small PP that i'm bluffing with and folding to a shove.

You mention in passing that your relative position is actually good as opposed to your actual position. I doubt many people picked up on it, but this is a good topic to discuss for those who may be unaware.

ah yes. good relative position occurs when you are not on the button but game conditions give you a favorable position relative to the other players in the pot, mainly the preflop raiser. when you act directly before the PFR in a multiway pot, you can check, see what he decides to do, then if he bets, you can see how everyone else reacts before making your decision. this most commonly occurs when calling preflop, closing the action from the BB.

to those that have never heard this before, i'd suggest re-reading some theory of poker/harrington on holdem because they have a lot of basic knowledge that even my students seem to be missing at times. for example, if you don't understand things like pot odds, implied odds, reverse implied odds, and general gambling theory, you should probably get at least one or two of those older 2p2 books b/c they are great for those fundamentals.

it surprises me how many guys can be thinking about ranges, playing fairly solid poker based on strategy they learned on DC, but then when i ask them to calculate their implied odds they have no idea...i mean these concepts are some of the first things any sklansky book teaches you and have been so ingrained as part of my thought process from the beginning that it baffles me how anyone can play w/out knowing it...

oh and watch math of nlhe by WoT too OBV!

Time Link to 00:57:01

What about when the double-donk? I hear everyone talking about donk bets are a sign of weakness but this just felt REALLY strong after he called my flop raise and led again on the turn...like he flopped a boat and was trying to induce a big raise.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 286689
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

CO: $14.30
BTN: $33.96
SB: $18.03
BB: $16.81
UTG: $27.69
Hero (MP): $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with K J
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 5 8 5 (2 players)
BB bets $1, Hero raises to $2.50, BB calls $1.50

Turn: ($6.60) T (2 players)
BB bets $1.50, Hero folds

Final Pot: $6.60
BB wins $6.27
(Rake: $0.33)

BTW, I really like the HEM review at the end. It's really helpful to see how you go about reviewing your sessions.

Good Vid.

16:00 table 3- I think this is a great spot to 2 barrel J8ss on Kxxss x board. So many midpairs that I'd expect to get fold from, alright equity when called.

this seems like a pretty good case of: pot equity + fold equity = aggression

i agree with my play. didn't really explain it too well in the video, but i think he has Kx or a midpair there and i wasn't really sure if i could get him to fold the midpair (plus i think he's more likely to have Kx anyway), so just took my infinite odds. since he called on the river, i suspect he would have called the turn too, meaning i still would not bet the turn in the future, especially since i know i can get paid if i hit my draw anyway.

keep in mind that Kxx flops are probably the best for us to c-bet based on fold equity alone. this means that conversely, if we get called on a Kxx board, our opponent often has a strong range that won't fold to a 2-barrel often enough for it to be profitable.

What about when the double-donk? I hear everyone talking about donk bets are a sign of weakness but this just felt REALLY strong after he called my flop raise and led again on the turn...like he flopped a boat and was trying to induce a big raise.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 286689
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

CO: $14.30
BTN: $33.96
SB: $18.03
BB: $16.81
UTG: $27.69
Hero (MP): $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with K J
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 5 8 5 (2 players)
BB bets $1, Hero raises to $2.50, BB calls $1.50

Turn: ($6.60) T (2 players)
BB bets $1.50, Hero folds

Final Pot: $6.60
BB wins $6.27
(Rake: $0.33)

i've actually thought about this a little but tend to wuss out most of the time and end up peeling the turn given my great pot odds and potential 6 outs. i seem to recall a FWF video where he recommends pounding on these weak bets with raises, claiming they usually fold by the river, but i can't say i've really experimented with it much. i would also expect that to work more in higher stakes games where people don't just get curious and call since the money is relatively worthless compared to high stakes hands.

Time Link to 00:28:17

Table 1 - KJ , id be very tempted to call here , QJ i can find a fold but with KJ , it just feels good enough to call with , am i making a mistake ?

Also you talk about how tight you are on that table and compare it to the player types. When ever i see that im playing a 15/8 type game i look around and if i was at your table i would think that it was a good style to play here since everyone is loose and bad , if you where at a table full of nits then you could complain.

the whole point of this series is to show how loose we can play against other loose players, so idk about that

supreme level of nittieness

that should be a serie name

Time Link to 00:28:24

hahahaha BOOYAAA !!

very nice video and i learn a lot of things to refine my game at 10NL.TY ,you are my favorite coach.

very nice video and i learn a lot of things to refine my game at 10NL.TY ,you are my favorite coach.

wow, thanks!

Time Link to 01:00:19

I thought I should chime in here that when Steve says "I should be loose from my BB", I'm pretty sure that what he means is that he should be looser from the BB than he is in the SB. This means that he is still pretty tight from the BB (folding >80% of his BBs) although slightly less tight than he is from the SB.

I thought I should chime in here that when Steve says "I should be loose from my BB", I'm pretty sure that what he means is that he should be looser from the BB than he is in the SB. This means that he is still pretty tight from the BB (folding >80% of his BBs) although slightly less tight than he is from the SB.

depending on your games and how well you play in the blinds (esp in MW pots), it could be like 78% or something close to but below 80%.

Hey was just wondering why the wmv version's file is so big? Most files on
on this site are like < 100mb. This one is like > 200 mb did u purposley do that for better quality?

Time Link to 00:55:15

Isn't this a spot like you pointed out before where he most likely have a draw (in this case probably a-high flushdraw) and he insta-checks?

Shouldn't you call his riverbet just to check him up?

Isn't this a spot like you pointed out before where he most likely have a draw (in this case probably a-high flushdraw) and he insta-checks?

Shouldn't you call his riverbet just to check him up?

i think calling would have been ok there but i didn't notice anything particular about the timing that would make me want to call; it would be because he has given us good odds and could be bluffing with a single diamond.

Time Link to 00:52:28

Why are you not too optimistic about your hand when you get trips? why do you say you are thinking about dumping it if you get raised on the turn.

Why are you not too optimistic about your hand when you get trips? why do you say you are thinking about dumping it if you get raised on the turn.

name some worse hands that raise me on the turn. after that, name some better hands that raise me on the turn. (there's a lot more of one than the other unless ppl have suddenly started playing T5 preflop)

[quote]name some worse hands that raise me on the turn. after that, name some better hands that raise me on the turn. (there's a lot more of one than the other unless ppl have suddenly started playing T5 preflop)[/quote

Good point. Except i feel that i could see someone raising a TPGK on this flop. If they did raise on the flop would you still call? Or are you assuming that anything that raises you is better than T6?

name some worse hands that raise me on the turn. after that, name some better hands that raise me on the turn. (there's a lot more of one than the other unless ppl have suddenly started playing T5 preflop)

Good point. Except i feel that i could see someone raising a TPGK on this flop. If they did raise on the flop would you still call? Or are you assuming that anything that raises you is better than T6?

couple of pros and cons about the situation here when we get raised:

pros:
people slowplay boards like this most of the time (so he's weighted towards medium-to-weak hands)
could be valuebetting TP
we're towards the top of our range
its hard to make trips combinatorically

cons:
people don't slowplay as much in limped pots since its harder to get stacks in
people don't bluff as much in limped pots since they aren't as invested both emotionally and financially
crushed by his high-value range of hands


given these various factors i think the decision is pretty close on later streets but flop is definitely a call. i'd probably call the flop/turn and fold the river (to reasonable sized bets) upon some reflection.

Second Video's much better than the first one, you explain your hand ranges against opponent, playing more out of position pots like you said. Much more learning in this video.

Second Video's much better than the first one, you explain your hand ranges against opponent, playing more out of position pots like you said. Much more learning in this video.

thanks! i actually made the first video in like june of 09, and recorded the rest of the series starting in september, so hopefully the rest wont disappoint.

At 44:10 or thereabouts you ask the viewer to see if set-mining against the tight opponent with 55 is worth it, so I thought I'd run the numbers. Here's my assumptions. He's raised to $1.10, so you're risking 80 cents to set-mine, and let's assume that if you hit the set on the flop you'll get his stack ($10.00) x percent of the time (I'm disregarding the chance of hitting the set on the flop or river, and also disregarding the really small chance of set over set). If you don't hit the set on the flop, you fold and lose your $0.80. And some percent of the time (1-x%), you'll hit the set but because he's tight, he'll fold without putting any more money in, so you only win $1.10.

So, the EV of a call here is, given that you hit the set 11% of the time (8.28:1 to hit, if I recall correctly):

= (1-0.11)*(-0.80) + (.11)[(x * 10.00) + (1-x)(1.1)]
= (0.89)*(-0.80) + (.11)[10x + 1.1 - 1.1x]
= -0.712 + (.11)[8.9x + 1.1]
= -0.712 + 0.979x + .121
= -0.591 + 0.979x

Now, we can solve for x to determine the break-even point at which the EV is zero.

x = 0.591 / 0.979
x = 0.60

So, if the caller will stack off 60% of the time, the call is break-even, and any higher will be an expected profit.

Does that look about right? I'm never quite certain about the correct assumptions for EV calcs in poker...

Time Link to 00:43:40

hi on table one when u had 108s,the guys to ur right lipm and u have the bottom, is not better to raised pot or 5x.Im not doing that all the time but if i'm play nit at the table i think 108s 97s ecc are good hand for try to steal.am i correct???
ns video and i will ask if u can make more about this stakes...
thanks Brus89

Hi.

In the Q T hand (on T 7 5) (at around 21:00 - 22:00)you say, that you might just call with pockets aces - why is that?
All the turn cards that are bad for QT are bad for pocket aces as well?
And by calling with AA you let him draw cheaply to a flush?


Enlighten me please

Time Link to 00:01:27

just out of curiosity, why would we flat call OOP here with KQ if it was suited as opposed to squeezing? does the value we gain from the image we create+the times that we pick up dead money become less if we're suited? also, what is your plan if say the original raiser calls? what are we doing then? are we leading out on all but like A-high flops? or are we c/f most flops? Sorry if this is too many questions for such an old video, but it's very thought provoking.

Time Link to 00:05:02

on this dry board with 2 over cards, are we c/r the flop for value or a bluff? I know as baluga whale would say, we're trying to collect dead money and get him to fold out his equity share, is that what we're doing here? What happens if he 3 bets us? I'm sure we're folding. If he flat calls what is your plan? Do you lead any non scare card turn or do we give it up? If he flat calls the c/r what range of hands are you putting him on?