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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by tubasteve (Micro/Small Stakes)

Wohoooooooooo, will watch this directly after my breakfast!

Time Link to 00:22:16

Any reason why shoving is better than flatting here? I know there is only a tiny chance that the guy behind will come along but this is NL10 and some will with AK/AQ and FD's. Also realize that you only have $2 more or something but shoving will seem stronger to these guys than flatting (which I guess would actually be seen as stronger at any higher stakes/by thinking players but he is 57/0 over a small sample).

Time Link to 00:29:54

Table 3 99 - is there not some merit to betting the turn to try to get some value from lower PP's and back door draws that the T made?

Really enjoying this btw...thanks.

8am class sucks...hope y'all enjoy the video

8am class sucks...hope y'all enjoy the video

I remember those days....yep.

And the video is excellent.

Ak vs AQ where villain calls your river bet,
At 10nl this happens all the time, I think betting the river here is a mistake as after checking two streets most 10nlers will call this bet with ace king, this may be incorrect, but at this limit so is betting the river,

Time Link to 00:19:16

QTs in SB, Hands like this are where your notes come in to play too because they go up a little in value if you have a note that your opponent likes to slow play and trap a lot as cards like this draw a lot.

Do you ever squeeze in NL10? I know you say that we are going to get paid with QTs if we hit, but does this sort of wipe out squeeze plays almost all together?

Thanks for making this vid tuba but shame about the gmail account, lets hope bad hackers get what is coming to them.

WHAT? no intro??

I'm only a little over half way through, but I really like this video. There are a ton of marginal spots that I see a lot at uNL that are nice to get your thoughts on like the QQ on the AKxtt flop.

Sucks about getting hacked. Was it an account dedicated to your FTP account or did you use it for other stuff? I recently made a dedicated one for my Stars account, but might make a hushmail one instead.

Awww snap, Tubasteve droppin some knowledge!

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/1116-Episode-One?seek=3671

Why do you fold the nines at the end of the video getting better than 15:1 vs a dep nit? Don't you have really good odds to set mine here? You were both 160+, the guys behind you is incapable of a resqueeze, you have ultimate position and probably a bad nit who will overplay his overpairs...

I thought the rest of the video was awesome!

Any reason why shoving is better than flatting here? I know there is only a tiny chance that the guy behind will come along but this is NL10 and some will with AK/AQ and FD's. Also realize that you only have $2 more or something but shoving will seem stronger to these guys than flatting (which I guess would actually be seen as stronger at any higher stakes/by thinking players but he is 57/0 over a small sample).

it simply doesnt make a difference when i'm only putting $2 more on top in such a huge pot.

Table 3 99 - is there not some merit to betting the turn to try to get some value from lower PP's and back door draws that the T made?

Really enjoying this btw...thanks.

i think theres a good chance any PP lower than mine just folds to a 2-barrel in this spot, and since those draws aren't much of his range (he'd have to peel a lot of big card type air hands which is unlikely on a high paired flop). if i had AK/AJ/J9/etc i'd definitely barrel as a semibluff. furthermore, he could be slowplaying a Q, and how nasty would it be to hit a 2-outer... (thats a VERY minor reason just thought i'd mention it)

Ak vs AQ where villain calls your river bet,
At 10nl this happens all the time, I think betting the river here is a mistake as after checking two streets most 10nlers will call this bet with ace king, this may be incorrect, but at this limit so is betting the river,

meh, this may be true but in general given he only needs to fold < 50% of the time (don't remember my betsize) i think its a good play. just know your villain.

Time Link to 00:25:47

I have a few questions about your 3B with 77 here.

When you say it is for value that is because he can call with worse right? So its great that he will put in more money preflop with a worse hand, but once you see the flop doesn't it become something of a guessing game as so many flops are going to have overcards to your pair? If you don't take down the pot with a cbet there doesn't seem to be much you can do postflop. If that is all the case than do our cards really matter as we are building a pot to take down on the flop when he misses? I feel like I'm missing something here

WHAT? no intro??

i won't lie, i was disappointed too

i imagine the guys just need a little more time...perhaps next week (fingers crossed)

QTs in SB, Hands like this are where your notes come in to play too because they go up a little in value if you have a note that your opponent likes to slow play and trap a lot as cards like this draw a lot.

Do you ever squeeze in NL10? I know you say that we are going to get paid with QTs if we hit, but does this sort of wipe out squeeze plays almost all together?

Thanks for making this vid tuba but shame about the gmail account, lets hope bad hackers get what is coming to them.

QTs plays awesome MW (although not as much OOP as IP) and with such a tiny sample (and opener didn't fold to his first 3-bet) there's no reason to squeeze. regarding when to do so, you basically just need to find spots where you can get a good price based on your opponent's fold to 3-bet. the problem with squeezing at these stakes is that overcallers often won't fold in between b/c they are so fishy, then you're stuck playing big pots OOP with marginal hands. i'll try to find some good squeeze spots in future vids though so we can discuss it a bit further.

I have a few questions about your 3B with 77 here.

When you say it is for value that is because he can call with worse right? So its great that he will put in more money preflop with a worse hand, but once you see the flop doesn't it become something of a guessing game as so many flops are going to have overcards to your pair? If you don't take down the pot with a cbet there doesn't seem to be much you can do postflop. If that is all the case than do our cards really matter as we are building a pot to take down on the flop when he misses? I feel like I'm missing something here

its more of a spot where i'm just playing the preflop equity of my hand. since he's short, i don't think i have implied odds to call and playing OOP without the initiative will be tough b/c he can just bet/bet and the board is gonna run out really gross for me. alternatively, i can reraise, get him to fold sometimes, get him to call then fold some flops, sometimes i hit a set, and often i can stack off on low drawy boards or boards with just one overcard.

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/1116-Episode-One?seek=3671

Why do you fold the nines at the end of the video getting better than 15:1 vs a dep nit? Don't you have really good odds to set mine here? You were both 160+, the guys behind you is incapable of a resqueeze, you have ultimate position and probably a bad nit who will overplay his overpairs...

I thought the rest of the video was awesome!

you're 100% right, should be a call esp since we can prob get multiway deep with 2 players

2 thumbs up!

M. Tuba, I was not aware that you ever lost your groove!

2 thumbs up!

+1... Awesome video... I can't wait for episode 2.

M. Tuba, I was not aware that you ever lost your groove!

More like his account was hacked and his groove was stolen from him, but he redeposited and got his mojo back...

I have a few questions about your 3B with 77 here.

When you say it is for value that is because he can call with worse right? So its great that he will put in more money preflop with a worse hand, but once you see the flop doesn't it become something of a guessing game as so many flops are going to have overcards to your pair? If you don't take down the pot with a cbet there doesn't seem to be much you can do postflop. If that is all the case than do our cards really matter as we are building a pot to take down on the flop when he misses? I feel like I'm missing something here

I would say stacksizes are important here. Because villain has a short stack playing postflop isn't that hard, and it's easier for us to get action from worse pre flop or post flop.

More like his account was hacked and his groove was stolen from him, but he redeposited and got his mojo back...

That sucks. Also an example of what happens when one posts without actually watching the video. In my defense, the unlimited bet sizes scare me!

WHAT? no intro??

Tuba is busto. Can't afford an intro. LOL

Time Link to 00:12:50

table 1 w/ JJ
why do you open @ 3x from CO when the guy in the bb seems like a station preflop so far?
i know its kinda standard from late pos to make it 3x for balancing reasons but come on, who pays attention here, right?

Hey Steve - are those table mods available anywhere? They are the same as my old ones pre-FTP update and much nicer than my current ones.

Hey Steve,



Fantastic vid....

If you don't mind taking requests; please do one more at 10NL.

Thanks

Time Link to 00:29:48

I'd bet the 99 here on QQ3T. I think we can get value from AK/AJ/KJ and if he folds, so be it. We weren't going to get anything from him on the river either. He's likely not going to randomly bluff on the end. So yea, I like a thin valuebet here. But hey, I like all thin valuebets.

Hey Steve,



Fantastic vid....

If you don't mind taking requests; please do one more at 10NL.

Thanks

thanks! i was planning 25nl for the next video but if i can get a few more requests i would do another at 10nl first. i need to know ASAP though b/c i'll be recording saturday at the latest.

I would like another 10nl video.

I have been searching for 10nl and lower since I've only been playing a few weeks and don't have godly amounts of money yet.

Thanks for this one, it's awesome!

Perhaps someone watching this knows of 10nl or lower stakes nlhe videos? I honestly play the lowest stakes right now, so I guess 5nl would be what I'm most looking for, but I kinda doubt anyone plays that low here...

I really hate your HUD. It's way too fkn big and a slight annoyance when watching your videos. I think a simple VPIP/PFR/3bet/cbet/hands HUD would be enough for the viewers to categorize the players and comprehend your decisions. And when do you really need all of these stats anyway?


The video itself is great.

I would like another 10nl video.

I have been searching for 10nl and lower since I've only been playing a few weeks and don't have godly amounts of money yet.

Thanks for this one, it's awesome!

Perhaps someone watching this knows of 10nl or lower stakes nlhe videos? I honestly play the lowest stakes right now, so I guess 5nl would be what I'm most looking for, but I kinda doubt anyone plays that low here...

+1

Tubasteve,

I would also like to request another 10nl video. I only play 2-5nl atm but am hoping to move up soon. I need a little more in my BR before I can move up. In the meantime it would be nice to see one more video at that level if possible. I'm hoping I can find this "Road to Robusto" but I think my GPS is broken so far I heading down this road and made a left on "Card dead Avenue" which lead me straight to "Speewchips lane".

hah, chuck's new series doesn't have an intro either so it isn't just me

Hi Tuba!

I have a suggestion,
Is it possible to conclude or begin every episode with a stats review of your "Road" so far? It would be very interesting to see, positional stats, WWSF and W$WoSD by position, cbetting, aggression by street and position etc

If its not possible to fit into the videos, then maybe post it in the threads?

Keep up the good work!

hah, chuck's new series doesn't have an intro either so it isn't just me

Correction. You have a pretty sick intro

thanks! i was planning 25nl for the next video but if i can get a few more requests i would do another at 10nl first. i need to know ASAP though b/c i'll be recording saturday at the latest.

+1 for 10nl

niiice!! great episode

Tubasteve is the nuts!

Why not table select the best tables at 10nl and 25nl for your next episode? I personally am trying to get comfortable with the notion of playing a fluid range of stakes rather than getting stuck into the mindset "I'm a 50nl player," or whatever.

yeah I watched most of this the other day and plan to finish it this weekend. looks to be a good series!

Tuba is busto. Can't afford an intro. LOL

hah, look again! guesss the check finally cleared....

Tubasteve is the nuts!

Why not table select the best tables at 10nl and 25nl for your next episode? I personally am trying to get comfortable with the notion of playing a fluid range of stakes rather than getting stuck into the mindset "I'm a 50nl player," or whatever.

i'm about 99% sure that if i did that i'd just end up with 25NL tables. since the objective is to maximize my EV, there are two things that would move me away from 10NL:

1) prohibitive rake at 10NL (although its still gross at 25)

2) since i expect to have a very large winrate in either game, and 25NL is 2.5x the stakes of 10NL, i'd have to have 2.5x the winrate at the 10NL table for it to be profitable. given that both stakes are very soft (to me) then i should just play higher most of the time. this concept is more valid if you're a reg in tougher games where overall lower winrates are standard, for example if you are a 3ptbb/100 reg at 200NL, you can probably find some 100NL tables that you're a 7ptbb/100 favorite on, and some 400NL tables that you are at least a 1.5ptbb/100 favorite on.

anyway all that aside, i might still take your advice and play some of each, not sure yet.

Sick intro!

+2 for 10nl

I really hate your HUD. It's way too fkn big and a slight annoyance when watching your videos. I think a simple VPIP/PFR/3bet/cbet/hands HUD would be enough for the viewers to categorize the players and comprehend your decisions. And when do you really need all of these stats anyway?


The video itself is great.

i use all of those stats except the WTSD/CRF almost every hand that i play. i don't really know what i'd do without the first 3 lines of the block, they are stats for spots that come up more frequently than any others: 1) 3-betting/being 3-bet, 2) c-betting, 3) stealing in LP

without 3 i would lose a ton of money by folding hands where i had profitable ATC steals

really? You have <50 hands on at least 4 spots on each of the tables (although one player you have 1k hands on, how does that work?), I can't believe that many of the stats beyond VPIP/PFR are close to reliable.

really? You have <50 hands on at least 4 spots on each of the tables (although one player you have 1k hands on, how does that work?), I can't believe that many of the stats beyond VPIP/PFR are close to reliable.

each stat alone isn't that reliable, but with their powers combined, along with using my notes and observations, they're very useful, especially if you watch the stats evolve over time to get a better picture of what they mean. hopefully i'm explaining that well, perhaps i can talk about my approach more in the next vid.

Time Link to 00:27:59

AK donkey strikes again!

I'm one who still has Road To Robusto on disk, so this was interesting to watch. I'm glad you are going to 2-tabling as with 4 tables a lot goes by which I'd like to hear more about, and when a hand comes up that I want to hear about and you're talking about 3 hands ago, I get anxious.

I can't say I disagreed with any of your decisions and would have made several of the same folds, so that's cool--except if you realize how much I suck at NL.

Looking forward to the next episode. Nice job, Steve.

For anyone watching this series, please check out this thread over in Secret HQ.

I will be conducting a What Would Joe Tall Do-esque type thingamajig for this series. Details are in that thread.

Time Link to 00:19:44

First table 74o
Isnt this a valuebet? I see him calling with a ton more straightdraws/gutshots/fd's then made hands.
He checked the flop so a king is less likely. And we're holding one of the 7's in our hand. Although the sample rate is small i would say a bluff is definitly not impossible if we check to him.
Once on the river if a brick hits i dont ever expect him to do a valuebet. So i would call any reasonable bet at that point expecting it to be a bluff.

time down when faced somewhat difficult decision. GOOD JOB avoiding really important hands...

time down when faced somewhat difficult decision. GOOD JOB avoiding really important hands...

are you claiming this was intentional...if so lol

Time Link to 00:24:35

On that A9o hand, you said that you bet the flop in order to fold out small PPs. But then within a short time later, you said that if you held Qx you would bet for value. So your logic doesn't add up. How can you say that betting Qx for value is a good play and say that bluffing your A9o is a good play? If value betting Qx is a good play then bluffing the A9o isn't good at all since we expect a lot of peels from hands worse than Qx.

On that A9o hand, you said that you bet the flop in order to fold out small PPs. But then within a short time later, you said that if you held Qx you would bet for value. So your logic doesn't add up. How can you say that betting Qx for value is a good play and say that bluffing your A9o is a good play? If value betting Qx is a good play then bluffing the A9o isn't good at all since we expect a lot of peels from hands worse than Qx.

well when we have a decent Qx, we can get value from worse Qx, value from draws. just not from PPs. plus we can bet smaller with Qx than we would with A9 to widen his calling range, as to encourage light calls.

my explanation might not have been the best, but against a loose player you can def valuebet a good Qx there and also have a profitable c-bet with A9.

Time Link to 00:34:10

About raising the donk bet on the 3J4 rainbow I don't like it much. I played a bunch of limit and its almost never right to raise a donk bet bc donkers like to donk and they probably are going to donk again. Say he is doing it with air we want to call and let him barrel off. If he does have a jack we want to call again so we can preserve our implied odds although in NLH I don't think you'll be raising when you hit your A or K but he is not going to be calling you on turn with out a Jack but he could be betting without a jack.

Time Link to 00:53:02

With the 88 on 72T95 board can we ever bet small hoping to get call by overs or small PP? why should we just check?

With the 88 on 72T95 board can we ever bet small hoping to get call by overs or small PP? why should we just check?

so you're hoping to get called by 33, 44, 66, and overs? thats too thin as he rarely would call the overs and those pairs only make up 18 combos of hands. there are 12 combos each of just stuff like JT/QT/KT, as well as any sort of slowplay or 9x hands. betting is wayyy too thin.

Cheers tubasteve brilliant video, helped a lot

Before I watched this movie I had some real problem with my small stake play. But after this movie it´s just clearned upp and I need to say really really good jobb with this video

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Time Link to 00:44:17

What makes you decide to look him up on the 9T493 after he makes a 3/4 pot size bet?

What makes you decide to look him up on the 9T493 after he makes a 3/4 pot size bet?

i expected him to raise anything TPGK or better most of the time early in the hand, and i also don't expect him to valuebet thinly on the river (as most micro players have this as a major leak). so when he bets river, his range is likely polarized to bluffs/huge hands, and since i don't think any huge hands make sense based on the action (he would have raised flop for value/protection with overpairs/sets/2p), i decided i was good often enough to call the river. getting 2.56-1 i need to win 28% of the time to call and i thought the price was right.

I really don't like betting on the river with AQo. It really looks like you are trying to bluff him off, worse Ax hands. I don't know what other Ax hands would even call you down on the river. I could really see this guy just checking down with AK because he's OOP and doesn't know if he should bet. I think you should talk more about what specific hands you think he has, because it doesn't help me, someone who's trying to learn the game, when you just say his range is air. You said, you put him on AK, so why would you raise on the river? 27:50 in Video. Say Specific hand ranges please!

Time Link to 00:39:19

tuba, would you stack off with your straight against the guy with the whole stack if he raises now or calls and raises a non diamond turn?

Time Link to 00:27:54

villain called with AK, pretty tight player, but perhaps saw hero playing relatively loose and just made a good read.

This dudes a fucking spaz, thinks hes god and seriously blows.... gave me a headache watching. Won't watch another one of his videos

thanks for the constructive feedback

no problem mr. value.. it's almost like your trying to hard ha

Hey Steve,

Are you still using these card skins? (You don't have to get a new one everytime Full Tilt updates right?)
If possible can you provide a link, I feel like they'll make me play as great as you do.

Time Link to 00:49:33

When you have the A9 hand here at top left you cbet the K25 2tone board, get a fold but no thoughts on it with the other stuff going on. Are you cbeting against this guy on all 1high card boards like this? If you got called what would be the plan? one of my leaks is def creating a big pot when perhaps i shouldn't have and looks like a similar spot where i've found trouble and lost a half/full buy in when the cbet is called.

@ 34:15 what we have to do if the original raiser cbet on the Q88 board. call one street? raise? fold?

Time Link to 00:44:41

I know that this video is really old, but I had a question if you don't mind.

When we call the turn when the 9 pairs the board and the river bricks off, are we hoping that he checks behind? I just dont see what changed from the turn to the river? were we hoping that our hand would improve? Basically my question is, if we were planning to c/f the river, why not just do it on the turn and save the bet?

So excited to see if TubaSteve is still alive and active! ;-)