Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by tubasteve (Micro/Small Stakes)

Time Link to 00:25:12

HI ! Interesting hand J10s. Can U give deeper analysis of it, pls ? What if villain shoves river ?

steve,

don't you think the guy would bet a hand like AK or KQ on the river when you have the T9dd early on?

I dunno about vs a total unknown, but against a regular i might just check the river to let him value bet his Kx, or make a bluff some of the hands he will just fold when you bet.

you do lose potential value vs like 88 or A7 that will check behind the river, but I'm not convinced those hands are enough of his range to make betting best

TT in your notes does it stand for two toned (sp) ?

nice video! ran pretty well on a couple of those hands and i liked the JK call down. the only hand that makes sense is 33, qj, nuts, or AsXo.

waiting for the 100nl video

ps. whats with the screaming in the background lol. gl with those finals

Yah the background music was funky too ^^, was hoping for you to make the jk calldown there, the speed with which he potted it on turn was a good tell.

Time Link to 00:37:39

Boo Yaa nice one TS

Time Link to 00:37:35

sick calldown.

love how you thought about it then went with your read

Time Link to 00:34:47

89o - Folding to BB donk bet with oesd and weak bdfd. I understand your reasoning but I would have thought you might check his donk bet stat before making the decision?

Aside from that it's a pretty good flop for you and I don't see how a call and reevaluate turn can be bad here. Obviously if the spade draw completes (even if your str8 completes) then you can be much more cautious. Is he going to bet in to you without the flush often? I would expect not as when you call it looks so much like you are drawing so he should play pretty straightforward on the turn. The SB is a nit so rarely going to proceed here unless he hit a big hand - all his pocket pairs and missed broadways fold (most of his range?).

You sould be able to get paid if you hit your str8 draw too (and no 3 flush board) as it will be somewhat disguised. Mmmm - I guess this is debatable.

This donk looks so much like Qx protecting against draws.

Would appreciate some further thoughts here as I would definitely want to call but maybe it's a leak.

Time Link to 00:24:55

On the JTs hand. I agree that when he raises the turn he never has a hand that now has a boat on the river(esp with his timing on the river bet). So when he makes what looks like a blocking bet isn't jamming the best play since he will probably fold all the hands were chopping with and will probably fold AJ if he even c/c with this hand on the flop?

Time Link to 00:41:31

Well, is his play really that bad? He bet after you checked to him -- pretty standard imo. You give him like 4:1 on a call, and his ace has to be an out pretty often too, right? Right now he has 30% on the flop.

Well, is his play really that bad? He bet after you checked to him -- pretty standard imo. You give him like 4:1 on a call, and his ace has to be an out pretty often too, right? Right now he has 30% on the flop.

He has 30% with two cards left, 15% with one card left. I could have raised bigger but most hands he has there have so little equity that I thought it was worth it to get some extra money in the pot and/or open it back up for a shove, but the more I look at it, I think I should have raised to $16 or so to give me an easier turn ship (slightly better leverage point, and denies him quite as good of odds.

Either way I don't think my play is too bad b/c his range is totally crushed by my range.

On the JTs hand. I agree that when he raises the turn he never has a hand that now has a boat on the river(esp with his timing on the river bet). So when he makes what looks like a blocking bet isn't jamming the best play since he will probably fold all the hands were chopping with and will probably fold AJ if he even c/c with this hand on the flop?

no one is folding a straight for a minraise, at least not often enough for me to want to try it at 50nl

TT in your notes does it stand for two toned (sp) ?

yessir, i also use r for rainbow and m for monotone

Boo Yaa nice one TS

sick calldown.

love how you thought about it then went with your read

wooooooooooooooooooo!

Also, sorry about the background noise guys. My roommates are a lot louder than they or I realized while I was making the video. Gonna try to make them when no one is home in the future...

Any thoughts on my comments re. the 89o hand above?

Thanks.

everyone is seeming to use the FTP deck again instead of custom cards. whats up with that? coincidence?

sorry but folding an OESD vs a total fish is bad in almost any circumstance. unless villian is so scared he will fold everytime you hit. a player like that will never fold a Q, terrible fold.

i realized this comment comes off with very little respect, and i dont mean it to come off that way. i do respect you and your game and used to follow you on 2+2 back in the day

On the JJ vs A5 hand,

i completely agree that your minraise isnt terrible, but he did make a fine call if he thinks his A is good. he has 30% equity when he only needs 25% and thats vs any single pair that isnt AA.

but i think the minraise is pretty bad for the fact that this type of player is willing to stack off whenever he thinks his hand is good. and there isnt that many draws that make sense in his range, even A5 doesnt make up that much of his range. given that, your minraise is playing vs a very small part of his range. if he thinks your full of shit he probably calls regardless of the bet size (unless its overly big). and if he has a hand he thinks is best, he definitely isnt folding for a non-overly big bet. so you really are only inducing the small range of gutshots to continue there, and if he has a gutshot and overcard (which would be most likely) you are actually giving him correct odds to call.

maybe im wrong here, but that raise size to me doesnt accomplish anything vs the majority of his range that is willing to continue.

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What are your thoughts on checking the river? We may lose some value if he has a 7 or a 6, but we may induce a lot of bluffs, any 8x that missed or even something like 2 overcards that missed may bet the river especially after we under-reped our hand.. Also if he did spike a king it seems to me that we get more value by check-raising the river than leading out since he's likely to just call with a king when we lead the river.

Time Link to 00:29:44

What pocket pairs are you thinking will fold? On a paired flop, I think it is pretty common for the bad players to peel the flop hoping to get to showdown, especially when you are betting OOP.

What are your thoughts on checking the river? We may lose some value if he has a 7 or a 6, but we may induce a lot of bluffs, any 8x that missed or even something like 2 overcards that missed may bet the river especially after we under-reped our hand.. Also if he did spike a king it seems to me that we get more value by check-raising the river than leading out since he's likely to just call with a king when we lead the river.

I agree with this for sure, in fact that is what Manchild mentioned above. We discussed it today and I think its def worth going for the checkraise, although at 50nl guys will often check back weak kings there...you'd be surprised.

Time Link to 00:26:14

Won't you always have Jx at the minimum taking this line from the villain's perspective? I get the feeling we might get more value betting the turn. If he's tight and bad, he's probably not folding the over pair right, and if he's tight and good/ok he'll probably peel at least one street, plus you can rep a wider range since you have position? I just felt this kind of relates to the earlier hand you were contemplating checking to induce a bluff from the missed fd. Using the same logic, if you have 88-TT here you're probably not betting the river right, so if you are betting (esp. value-ish) your range is more or less nuts/air?

Won't you always have Jx at the minimum taking this line from the villain's perspective? I get the feeling we might get more value betting the turn. If he's tight and bad, he's probably not folding the over pair right, and if he's tight and good/ok he'll probably peel at least one street, plus you can rep a wider range since you have position? I just felt this kind of relates to the earlier hand you were contemplating checking to induce a bluff from the missed fd. Using the same logic, if you have 88-TT here you're probably not betting the river right, so if you are betting (esp. value-ish) your range is more or less nuts/air?

Betting may be preferable against someone you know is really fishy, but it is just my experience that in these spots I have the board so utterly crushed that betting usually just gets a bunch of folds, and since I only expect to get one street of value from most hands, I decided to check. FWIW that dude isn't going to be a great hand reader so I'm not really worried about my perceived range...I mean he called the river with KQ once I checked the turn... He may have called a bet with that hand on the turn but I kinda doubt it.

Something else to consider is that if he does have one or two overcards I'd like to give him a chance to hit a pair. He MAY call with Ax on the turn but OOP I think a lot of guys can fold it. Another relatively minor but not insignificant factor to consider is that 22-66 now is likely to check/fold, and if we check back we at least give them the option to either bluff the river, or hit a 2-outer and pay us another bet. Considering this guy called with K high, I certainly hope he would also call with an underfull, lol. That's 30 more combos of hands we could eek some money out of.

What pocket pairs are you thinking will fold? On a paired flop, I think it is pretty common for the bad players to peel the flop hoping to get to showdown, especially when you are betting OOP.

People really don't even need to fold pocket pairs on that flop for my c-bet to be profitable, since I have great FE, 6 outs to hit a pair and 8 bluffing outs where I still have decent equity even if called. I also may have the best hand when called by a FD, although that is only really beneficial if I have position and can continue to apply pressure.

To answer your question, I think some people COULD fold the smaller pairs since I'm betting 3-ways. But again, I don't really need them to with AJ and should have made that clear.

Another relatively minor but not insignificant factor to consider is that 22-66 now is likely to check/fold, and if we check back we at least give them the option to either bluff the river, or hit a 2-outer and pay us another bet. Considering this guy called with K high, I certainly hope he would also call with an underfull, lol. That's 30 more combos of hands we could eek some money out of.

That makes sense, sure. I didn't think to factor in all the combos that would "suck out" on the river.

Thanks, great video TS

TD

That makes sense, sure. I didn't think to factor in all the combos that would "suck out" on the river.

Thanks, great video TS

TD

Glad you enjoyed it. One more thing I should mention to make sure I cover all my bases on that hand; I realize that checking the turn misses value against 7x, but given the position he raised in, 7x is a TINY part of his range if its even in there at all.

Hey Tubasteve, thanks for this series ! they improved a lot my game ! Keep up the good work )

Good one imo.

Mr Tuba is v-good at explaining why he is playing in a certain way.. sometime we may disagree or tend to do something else but as a long time students of him and listener to his videos, I can assure this is EV+ to listen to his video.

Very good one sir

Did you talk into a can?.

Sry, normally your audio is perfect, but it seems bad this time.

Loved the video tho. Nice calldowns

Time Link to 00:24:34

the JT hand where you chop:
1) what's the plan when calling? you don't voice the scenarios that you are likely going to face on the river
2) if you had a ton of stats on him, what stat would you check on the turn and why?
3) continuing from question 2) what would you do if
a) river bet would be 30-40%
b) river bet would be 20-25%
or is river bet stat an irrelevant stat?
4) thoughts on villain's bet-sizing on river?
5) thoughts on vaillain using almost all of timebank?

stats are pretty much irrelevant in my decision making process there given my hand strength. you should focus more on what your opponent is representing in these spots, not a few numbers that require a huge sample to converge and don't really make sense without context. in this spot, he is only really repping AJ or Jx, and I think AJ often just c/f the flop, so i felt pretty good about taking my hand to showdown.

as far as your other questions go, i'm not really sure how relevant they are. (no offense but we should know what is important and what isn't in order to streamline your decision making process.) that said, as far as timing and bet sizing, i don't think we can read too much into it. it makes sense that he would have to consider his options once the board pairs, and it also makes sense that he wouldn't bet too big since his hand is now much farther from the nuts.

again i'm glad you're thinking but make sure you're thinking about the right things. here, we can maybe draw some general info about his tendencies from stats, but it is more important to look at the board texture and try to figure out what he's repping. in general people rarely bluff, and most people also suck at valuebetting thinly, meaning we just have to try and decide how we fare against basically the exact hand our opponent is repping. in this hand, i thought i would be chopping most of the time, losing about 5-10% or so, and occasionally he might valuetown himself with a combodraw, against prob just like 5-10% of the time or less.

Hi Steve,

really appreciated you took the time to answer to an older vid and in such detail. Thanks.

Time Link to 00:05:59

With the 5c4c hand, I would bet the turn as well. My thought process is below...am I flawed in my thinking?

I feel your equity is good against his range and even if you only have marginal fold equity, it helps given that a secondary benefit is manipulating the pot size to play for stacks when you hit. If you bet half-pot and he check-raises, he clearly has a monster that he will stack off with. If he check-calls again, I think he is very likely to stack off with a middling ace.

With the 5c4c hand, I would bet the turn as well. My thought process is below...am I flawed in my thinking?

I feel your equity is good against his range and even if you only have marginal fold equity, it helps given that a secondary benefit is manipulating the pot size to play for stacks when you hit. If you bet half-pot and he check-raises, he clearly has a monster that he will stack off with. If he check-calls again, I think he is very likely to stack off with a middling ace.

good points, but i don't think they outweigh the factors i outlined in the videos. as i mentioned i wasn't even that confident in my flush outs given how low my hand was. also, i think there's a lot of value to be had when i hit one of the 6 non-flush outs. my opponent may bluff a missed draw; he also is likely to valuebet the A for me when he has it, which allows me to play a big pot as well.

Hello tubasteve,

I was wondering how did you setup your table theme?

At 00:20:58 you discuss whether it's better to call or squeeze the A7s hand. But isn't folding better here? Or are you planning to c/r a lot of flops?

For me this is a std fold or squeeze.

At 00:20:58 you discuss whether it's better to call or squeeze the A7s hand. But isn't folding better here? Or are you planning to c/r a lot of flops?

For me this is a std fold or squeeze.

i feel pretty confident in my ability to turn a profit here given my good relative position and the fact that my opponents seem weak. folding is fine though if you're not sure how to play a draw/Ax/etc postflop. its certainly marginal. i'd be WAY more inclined to squeeze with K7s.

in fact maybe A7s isn't profitable here, i think calling with A5s or worse would be much preferable to squeezing though. close one.

i feel pretty confident in my ability to turn a profit here given my good relative position and the fact that my opponents seem weak. folding is fine though if you're not sure how to play a draw/Ax/etc postflop. its certainly marginal. i'd be WAY more inclined to squeeze with K7s.

in fact maybe A7s isn't profitable here, i think calling with A5s or worse would be much preferable to squeezing though. close one.

Thnx for your reply. But why would you rather squeeze K7s here instead of A7s? With A7s we have a blocker, obv also with K7s, but I think an ace-blocker is better than a king-blocker? Is it because there are more aces in his callingrange so that if we hit a K we are in better shape then when we hit an A?

Thnx for your reply. But why would you rather squeeze K7s here instead of A7s? With A7s we have a blocker, obv also with K7s, but I think an ace-blocker is better than a king-blocker? Is it because there are more aces in his callingrange so that if we hit a K we are in better shape then when we hit an A?

few things, just gonna list them as they come to mind

1) Ax makes better pairs and therefore wins more often than Kx (i'm not worried about reverse implied odds b/c i am c/c flop and folding to any turn bet with TP and no history)

2) Axs coolers Kxs, and in a multiway pot that is huge, especially when people have wide ranges (and therefore more suited junk). this is really important when playing against either a loose BU steal or if we have a fish in the hand that will play stuff like Q5s. In other words, making the nuts in a multiway pot is really awesome.

3) Regarding blockers, Ax and Kx actually remove a similar number of combos from our opponents 4-bet range. If we assume he's competent and only would 4-bet/call with AK/JJ+, Kx blocks the exact same number of hands as Kx. And I don't really care much about blocking his 3-bet calling range (i.e. hands like AQ/AJ), b/c since i assume he's going to play fit/fold postflop, i would actually love for him to call the 3-bet.

few things, just gonna list them as they come to mind

1) Ax makes better pairs and therefore wins more often than Kx (i'm not worried about reverse implied odds b/c i am c/c flop and folding to any turn bet with TP and no history)

2) Axs coolers Kxs, and in a multiway pot that is huge, especially when people have wide ranges (and therefore more suited junk). this is really important when playing against either a loose BU steal or if we have a fish in the hand that will play stuff like Q5s. In other words, making the nuts in a multiway pot is really awesome.

3) Regarding blockers, Ax and Kx actually remove a similar number of combos from our opponents 4-bet range. If we assume he's competent and only would 4-bet/call with AK/JJ+, Kx blocks the exact same number of hands as Kx. And I don't really care much about blocking his 3-bet calling range (i.e. hands like AQ/AJ), b/c since i assume he's going to play fit/fold postflop, i would actually love for him to call the 3-bet.

Ah, that makes it clear.

Thank you!

Time Link to 00:01:48

On table 2...would you be planning on c-ring most boards as a bluff? Im confused as to why on a tp board with a gutter you plan on check calling as opposed to check raising?

Time Link to 00:48:57

Nice series, and I really enjoy watching it!

But what's that noise? haha, sounds like an angry man!