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A few spots I've been struggling with lately is knowing what hands to raise-call short stacks with. If say, I'm in the HJ at 600/1200/125, with a stack of 25k and the table's 8-handed. The BTN, SB and BB have about the same as me but the CO has 6k. Disregarding ICM and any other factors for simplicity, what hands should I be raising with the intention of calling a shove from the CO and folding to a shove from the rest, and how do I figure it out?
Hmm no specific rules, but I guess experience and sometimes a bit of feel.. Also definitely depends on the stats of the players/who they are, if they are like 50/10 and likely to flat, open less often, if they are regs and likely to re-jam semi-wide then open less often etc.. Not exactly sure how to explain this but pretty much usually hands that are decent in terms of their equity but it would be unprofitable to just jam them due to stack depth with another player/s (like the example you mentioned), or just because of how tight the players are even though jamming is profitable it's much more profitable to raise/fold (and call the short stacks).
As weird as it may sound, the best way to learn this is to find a few example hands, ask someone who knows what they are doing what the correct range is, then with that knowledge you can kinda estimate the ranges for other spots yourself, and the more you play the better you will get with this. In the example you gave assuming none are too loose/stationy and none are agro regs, (some of this range I personally prefer to just jam) 22+ A2o+ K9o+ K8s+ 87s+ JTo or so
Sure np, anytime. Feel free to post some hands in this very thread and I can try help you out.. Or add me on Skype, I'd be happy to help you out with some questions (within reason) for free - OMGClayDol
Same goes to anyone else, thanks all and gl
Discussed in video 1 I think. In short, depends on if you can re-deposit, if you are willing to move down etc. I would also definitely recommend playing the 3.5rs too unless you have multi-tabling issues since they are super profitable and less variance (again discussed in video 1 - as in the prelude) since they are deeper and your roi is bigger. At least $1200, and if you actually want to be very safe, no moving down/re-depositing etc probably like $3K or so. And that is assuming you have a good winrate since if you have a low (or even negative) one variance will be worse - bigger downswings are more likely etc.. Gl
What hands would you be willing to minraise get it in with the SB here if you had a read that BB was tight and unlikely to reshove wide?
Poker Stars $2.28+$0.22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t125 - 7 players - View hand 1419352
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BB: t27659 M = 10.34
UTG: t33885 M = 12.67
UTG+1: t13619 M = 5.09
MP: t27694 M = 10.35
CO: t17372 M = 6.49
Hero (BTN): t30747 M = 11.49
SB: t4723 M = 1.77
Pre Flop: (t2675) Hero is BTN with 5 J
Final Pot: t2675
BB wins t2075
any two cards
if the bb is quite tight/not playing back etc then you should minraise (and call a shove from the sb and fold to the bb) with any two cards because the times they both fold, you will pick up around 3000 in dead money! when you get it in with the sb, you will get really good pot odds from the BB and antes, so yeah. hope that makes sense
I would guess his stack is around the deepest I would do it with atc, if he has more then I would tighten up my range (since when we get it in vs. him the pot odds won't compensate as much) or i would simply minraise/fold. if they are both pretty tight straightforward it can often be profitable to minraise on the btn with atc. also the fact that the BB has a pretty sizable stack is good because it means he can't/won't reshove as wide.. if he had say 15BB for e.g. he might be happier to just shove 22+ etc, meaning your fold equity decreases.
Hey claydol, is this a standard shove? If so, how wide would you go here?
I'd just been moved to this table so no stats.
Poker Stars $2.28+$0.22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t125/t250 Blinds + t25 - 8 players - View hand 1422401
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MP1: t5296 M = 9.21
MP2: t3801 M = 6.61
CO: t8120 M = 14.12
Hero (BTN): t1395 M = 2.43
SB: t2029 M = 3.53
BB: t1010 M = 1.76
UTG: t1100 M = 1.91
UTG+1: t2743 M = 4.77
Pre Flop: (t575) Hero is BTN with Q 9
UTG calls t250, 2 folds, MP2 calls t250, CO calls t250, Hero?
Hey man, with your stack size I would be pretty happy to shove this. With say 10BBs, I would still be ok (post ante) although not as happy - that being said you'd have more fold equity. Even if someone is always calling you are getting good pot odds with a hand that has decent equity, and sometimes (not often I guess) they will all fold too. I would maybe go with something like 22+ A2s+ A2o+ 87s+ JTo+ Q8s+ K7s+ Q9o+ K9o+.
You can definitely change this slightly, because this is a pretty wide range. There's enough dead money for you to double up if you take the pot down, and if someone calls you are getting like 3:1 etc. With 10BB maybe I make it like 22+ A2s+ A6o+ T9s+ JTo+ etc.
No it's definitely not a good reg who thinks I'm wide. I'm wide but A5o is still a beyond-snap fold given how many BBs effective stacks are and also the fact that I'm shoving pretty early (in which case range is wide, but not that wide...) A5o has TERRIBLE equity vs my range there and he is calling off like 15 or something (sorry I would calculate exact, but my internet where I am right now is terrible so I can't load the video properly haha).
first of all, thanks for this vids OMGClayDol, you did cover a lot of the leaks/borderline actions that i had, if someday i think to get a coach, i will talk 2 for sure.
here i have a doubt, imagine that the CO raise to 2.5x or u know he is a reg, which range do u would use to re-jam?
Hey thanks for the comments, appreciate that. If CO raises to 2.5 and I know he is a reg, it depends a lot on the specific reg! Some regs will open really wide, some will open really tight. Same with their calling ranges. As a result we have to adjust our range based on our opponent.
Hey, pre-ante 13BB effective with several players it won't be profitable to jam A9o (pretty sure I saw the right hand, top left right)? You can wiz it if you have it, I think even with 10BB it would be pretty close since A9o plays really bad vs. calling ranges. JTs is much better even if A9o is a better hand in terms of all in equity pre-flop vs. JTs. Pokerstove is free and you can test what equity hands have vs typical calling ranges such as 66 ATs AJo 77 AJo AJs, etc and you will see what hands are better to jam than others, e.g. JTs > A9o etc.. A9o has one small advantage, it has an ace, meaning it is slightly less likely any opponents behind will call since it means its less likely they have hands in their calling range with an ace, e.g. AA AK AQ AJ etc
I looked at the hand in icmizer and it was +40 chips. Its hard for me to say what these guys are calling because I have not played many 180s, but I have lots of mttsng experience. One of the villians is very short and two of them maybe call us with worse hands.
Stats generally just VPIP PFR and number of hands. I would click the HUD to see more specific stats, occasionally, but like I say a few times throughout my various videos I think HUDs are overused by a lot of regulars because many stats like 3b need a big sample to be very relevant, and are too situational especially in 180s where some regs might 3b a lot at T1000 or later, but only QQ+ AK at T20.
is there any "strategy" reason why you are saying you would check/fold turn here?
as cash player this is like a slam donk value bet here on turn, and its not even close. you say "you want to avoid ...", but in the end when you are ahead of his range and can get value, is there any "SNG explanation" to NOT bet here, (beside "making it easier to play") even tough it is a clear value bet?