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Poker Video: MTT/SNG by OMGClayDol (Micro/Small Stakes)

Time Link to 00:07:55

Hi OMGClayDol. Enjoying the series and looking forward to seeing you play 30 tables.

In this KQo hand, which you fold pf with 6 players left to act, you have an M of 8.8. I noticed that most of the players behind you had you covered, but could you please explain why you considered this hand to be unprofitable to shove with ?

Your stack seemed to be getting a bit short to me, and I think the blinds went up quite soon after this hand. So, how short would your stack size need to be, before you would consider pushing all in here with this hand ?

Hey thanks for your comments, Fantam.
I don't really use M before the ante stages myself, personally. However 8.8 is pretty high as far as M goes. Equilibrium wise, with no antes, M of 4 has KJo+.. So more than double here would be significantly tighter. If you put it into SNG wiz, with chip EV, zero edge, it says to shove 88 AQ AJs KJs, and that's with pretty tight calling ranges from everyone and once again zero edge etc. So if/given the blinds were about to go up, I definitely wouldn't mind this as a shove. Otherwise I would probably want around 1100 or so before I shove this since the "edge tax" etc is still a little bit relevant at the moment too.

13BB pre ante isn't too short, but yeah if blinds were going up we can shove a little wider. If blinds weren't about to go up I think I'd be shoving here like 88+ AQ+ exactly as a default although it's probably fine to go a tiny bit wider (or tighter)

Time Link to 00:46:08

How do you feel about a 4x iso here. Will prolly be the exact same thing as a jam but will turn the big blinds hand face up with out risking 21bb's and who knows sometimes you even get calls and then fold to cbet. I wouldnt like the above against a reg because he can jam like kq and make us have to fold some stuff but against a weak passive player i think it could be best. I really dont think there is much of a difference just a thought.

Time Link to 00:50:19

I like jam here because of how he seems pretty bad and there are 2 guys on his left with like 3 bb's. In my opinion its going to tighten up his calling range an insane amount. like AJ suited and 8's plus would be my guess. Mabey he has just been card dead but against someone that limp utg and hasn't jammed yet i think id go any 2 here. What are your thoughts on this?

Time Link to 00:50:19

i didn't realize that was not the final table. I think I like your line better now because there arent the big pay jumps for the weaker players to worry about. Sorry about that. If it was the final table how would you act?

Time Link to 01:07:27

i would think he would have to call pretty tight with 3 guys so close to busting. Whats your range for the jam over the limp here.

Time Link to 01:07:27

great vid! you run bad

You mean BvB with K6o? I think ATC would probably be fine here since he should be calling so tight. That being said he probably opens a little tighter than normal, since he doesn't really wanna mess with the big stack etc

How do you feel about a 4x iso here. Will prolly be the exact same thing as a jam but will turn the big blinds hand face up with out risking 21bb's and who knows sometimes you even get calls and then fold to cbet. I wouldnt like the above against a reg because he can jam like kq and make us have to fold some stuff but against a weak passive player i think it could be best. I really dont think there is much of a difference just a thought.

Don't mind this and it certainly has merits.. I prefer shove personally since I generally don't like raise/folding in spots where shoving is unexploitable. Getting flatted sucks, and it does happen vs. randoms sometimes

I like jam here because of how he seems pretty bad and there are 2 guys on his left with like 3 bb's. In my opinion its going to tighten up his calling range an insane amount. like AJ suited and 8's plus would be my guess. Mabey he has just been card dead but against someone that limp utg and hasn't jammed yet i think id go any 2 here. What are your thoughts on this?

I know you posted below that because it's the final table you don't mind it but I'm still not too sure which hand you are talking about?

two different hands the second one is K2 at the final table where he limps it pre with 3 guys close to busting

Think K2o was a min raise. The internet I'm using right now is too crappy to load the video though.

oh ok kool

I'm a bit late commenting on the video but anyway.

Around 17:15 (before you stop to the hand with 2c2h) you go over a bunch of hands saying they're standard fold but from one hand to another the stack jumps from 2900 to ~4800 and I can only imagine you shoved T6o or something like that.

Did I missed something?

Thanks in advance.

L.E. nevermind it was probably the addon period.

I'm a bit late commenting on the video but anyway.

Around 17:15 (before you stop to the hand with 2c2h) you go over a bunch of hands saying they're standard fold but from one hand to another the stack jumps from 2900 to ~4800 and I can only imagine you shoved T6o or something like that.

Did I missed something?

Thanks in advance.

L.E. nevermind it was probably the addon period.

add on

Time Link to 01:09:32

fish on a heater

hey,
even having bigstack on your left u are still jammin suited connector broadways and siuted aces and kings x (x>9). havent u been considering that the guy would call u lighter since he realized u are so light. and even if he found out that he should call you at least with his 10% range than u still think it is correct to shove as u did?. how light he must have switched his calling rang to made u change a bit your habits? i am relating to the 40-50 min period while u had reanimus on your left.
thank you
great series

Hey it's probably still profitable just because he isn't calling often enough for it not to be, especially with stronger hands like suited broadways (which are significantly stronger than say 87s or k7s). But, it's definitely not optimal to shove. Throughout this series, especially at the start, I did a lot of jamming with big effective stack/s left to act behind and that was discussed about later in the series and why it's not optimal/what you can do instead and why etc. So yeah instead of shoving, you could just fold, or you can raise/call short stacks and fold to the big stack/s

Hey it's probably still profitable just because he isn't calling often enough for it not to be, especially with stronger hands like suited broadways (which are significantly stronger than say 87s or k7s). But, it's definitely not optimal to shove. Throughout this series, especially at the start, I did a lot of jamming with big effective stack/s left to act behind and that was discussed about later in the series and why it's not optimal/what you can do instead and why etc. So yeah instead of shoving, you could just fold, or you can raise/call short stacks and fold to the big stack/s

You already discussed it, but I just watched this and think you really overdid it in this one. You are paying 0 attention to the bigstack on your left. The 78 you already talked about or K8s for 30BB eff a little later are just terribad imo If I sit there to your left mp vs mp I'll just snap you off with Ax or PPs all day long. And it really stuns me if I see good regs doing this, when raise/call shorties, raise/fold to him are such an easy thing to do.

love this video. you run good (as you say ya have to) but gotta respect the jam jam jam jam jam jam jam jam jam........

Clay at 24:00 would you always fold to the reshove from the BB? is his range really that nutted that you can fold jacks?