Lime Slicer: Episode Six

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Lime Slicer: Episode Six

Coaching challenge Part 1/2. whitelime and pr1nnyraid each coach danzasmack at HU NLHE for 300 hands. Who can teach better? Loser has to perform karaoke.

tags: stuffing the penguin pr1nnyraid krantz whitelime danzasmack heads up hu nl no limit hold'em coaching challenge sweat session karaoke ipod friendly

This Series: whitelime vs. pr1nnyraid

Clash of the titans. whitelime and KRANTZ battle each other in a series of high-stakes, daring challenges designed to explore what it takes to move beyond solid winning TAG play into the mindset of an elite No-Limit player. Immerse yourself deep within their thought processes in whitelime's half, "Stuffing the Penguin," or KRANTZ's, "Lime Slicer."

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Comments for Lime Slicer: Episode Six

Robin_Ripper
Pair of Deuces
112 posts
Joined 01/08

To bad there were some audio problems.
But great vid... :)

Posted Feb 8, 2008 1:45am

joethepro
Pair of Deuces
216 posts
Joined 01/08

yah, great vid. really looking forward to when krantz plays HU NL himself.

Posted Feb 8, 2008 1:56am

Nute
Deuce High
9 posts
Joined 01/08

Jay - Can you explain why you won't give advice during the hand? obv you have your reasons; just wondering. thanks.

Posted Feb 8, 2008 3:47am

danzasmack
Founder
Deuces Full
520 posts
Joined 02/07

Jay - Can you explain why you won't give advice during the hand? obv you have your reasons; just wondering. thanks.



Not fair to the players, + then it's basically me as a puppet and they gogogo.

This was an unbelievable experience btw.

Posted Feb 8, 2008 4:37am

iplaylimit
Deuces Full
536 posts
Joined 04/07

This video rocks! Too bad there's some audio problems but I learned a ton

Posted Feb 8, 2008 3:53pm

AcroN
Deuce High
10 posts
Joined 01/08

Very very interesting video. Unfortunate sound problems, but lots of good content.

Posted Feb 10, 2008 12:22pm

Past
Deuce High
3 posts
Joined 01/08

Checking that straight flush draw down had to F' with that guys head, and it seemed he was going for a check raise which sucks. I would have defiantly bet your standard 60, and given him a chance to check raise bluff. Of course checking behind the flop does REALLY disguise your hand.

On that A6 of green. On the AK5 board when he checks behind on AK5 board he pretty much gives away he has a K, you should lead out on turn and bet most rivers. It seems he is turning all his 2nd pair type of hands into bluff catchers. You did get 1 bet on the turn out of him, but he is checking most rivers behind, that you could of bet if you bet out the turn.

The over shove with 910, I like only because he pot controlling an 8 on the flop like this, and he is obv calling w/ that. I feel like you are getting called a lot less by everything else though, and he may of check raised an 8 all in on the river anyways.

I also thought it was funny instead of giving advice, when you were making a play he didn't think was best, he would say wait now just think about all your decisions.

Fun video.

Posted Feb 12, 2008 5:24am

tufts
Deuce High
35 posts
Joined 01/08

I thought both this and Krantz's half were very solid videos. I have a couple questions:

About 6m in Emil advocates checking behind the turn on a K7xJ board reasoning that we're probably only extracting 2 streets from this player. Would this change against a more aggressive, thinking player who is anticipating us to second barrel the J? I guess I'm asking if this is a good spot for a range merge against someone who expects us to be firing obvious bluff cards and which types of opponents we would be doing this against.

Also, around 40m in Emil mentions that he would expect players at higher stakes to show up with hands the first time they play back at aggresssion, but players at lower stakes may make the possibly more obvious decision to instead turn up their own aggression. This is a spot I find myself struggling with often- anticipating adjustments. Is there anything specific to look for when trying to decide whether a player is the type to sit back and wait for a hand or t oturn up their own aggression in response to ours? I find myself guessing a lot of the time (and often incorrectly).

Hopefully this is articulted well enough, thanks for any and all input

Posted Feb 12, 2008 3:15pm

KRANTZ
Founder
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Hey Tufts, if you can repost this in the Stuffing the Penguin Episode Six thread, whitelime will be able to respond!

Posted Feb 13, 2008 5:28am

ranzer
Deuce High
4 posts
Joined 01/08

really great
that's what i pay for

Posted Feb 23, 2008 11:27am

Miloski
Deuce High
3 posts
Joined 03/08

I noticed throughout the video that Krantz tried to explain several concepts to you, but you usually cut him off and changed the topic or prevented him to finish his thought by adding your opinion instead. This was very unfortunate, both for you and the viewers as well. I love the concept of the video and it's done pretty well. Howerver, in the future, danzasmack, please try listening more and slowing down your own thoughts so that you improve your game and make a better video.

Thank you

Posted Mar 4, 2008 5:30pm

Froobert
Deuce High
6 posts
Joined 03/08

I noticed throughout the video that Krantz tried to explain several concepts to you, but you usually cut him off and changed the topic or prevented him to finish his thought by adding your opinion instead. This was very unfortunate, both for you and the viewers as well. I love the concept of the video and it's done pretty well. Howerver, in the future, danzasmack, please try listening more and slowing down your own thoughts so that you improve your game and make a better video.

Thank you



QFT

Though I think you did ask some good questions throughout, I would have liked to hear a bit more uninterupted Kranzage.

Posted Mar 25, 2008 2:19am