Poker Video: Limit Hold 'Em by BigBadBabar (Micro/Small Stakes)

I've been waiting for this one... Loved the first two episodes. Keep it up

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I would bet the turn here so that I don't check/fold. Couldn't the villian have a ton of peeling hands that he might fold on the turn? Or is he so loose that he is calling everything?

I suppose we'll have to brl here a lot, but given our holding and the loosenes of the opponent, I would think it would be profitable. Sometimes we will be value betting, sometimes we will be protecting our hand, and sometimes we will improve to the winner.

I didn't understand this hand but maybe you had a special read that I was unaware of.

I've been waiting for this one... Loved the first two episodes. Keep it up

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I think this turn is a Check/fold. This board should have hit the villians range pretty good. I wouldn't suspect he will be value betting the turn with a worse hands than yours and even if he does, or bets as a bluff, the pot is small.

I think you are better off checking and hoping for a free card and sometimes sucking out on the villian. This turn will look just as scary to your opponent as it does to you and sometimes he'll check back a better hand.

yeah, you make good points. it's possible i was so pumped up after hijacking the mouse from pyg on the right table that i bet too quickly on the left. i feel like there is some chance that he calls with worse ie crap pair or crap draw, and i do have a crap draw myself, and often i can get him to fold hands with outs against me, ie outs to a chop or random ax hands, and i do tend to 2barrel fairly often in these spots, such that i don't think a bet is horribly -ev. all that said, i do agree with you that it's probably slightly -ev at least and that checking and seeing is a better and more delicate play. nice catch.

edit: yeah and then in the commentary once the river hits you see me realizing what happened

I like flinging poo every now and then on smallstakes... so I'd be interesting in knowing if there'll be any 1/2 or 2/4 later on this series?

That UNC thing was funny... especially after you said you're fan yourself!

yeah, pyg got tilted that i was chatting so he shut me down eventually. i am a unc fan but don't mind duke either, but if the two of them play then obv unc is gonna win

so epic.

wow i had forgotten about this totally. i'm lmaoing.

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i find it hard to fold even with the rake so high , these guys suk and are hand is soooted.

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i always note open limps but i also put down how many players there were. It helps me distinguish in some of the fishy FR games i play in.

ie. OL utg 4h.

I would bet the turn here so that I don't check/fold. Couldn't the villian have a ton of peeling hands that he might fold on the turn? Or is he so loose that he is calling everything?

I suppose we'll have to brl here a lot, but given our holding and the loosenes of the opponent, I would think it would be profitable. Sometimes we will be value betting, sometimes we will be protecting our hand, and sometimes we will improve to the winner.

I didn't understand this hand but maybe you had a special read that I was unaware of.

I think your comment here is a bit at odds with your first one. I mean it certainly seems that he's not folding any hand and to be fair he DID check back in the K8 hand. That means I think we can reasonably expect him to not auto fire when we check. Which implies that when he does bet we need to fold given the size of the pot.

I understand where you're coming from on this but I just don't necessarily think we want to be initiating more money into the pot. I don't feel our hand (when called) or our draw are strong enough for that.

Can the elephant actually be tamed? Is the Pygmy mightier than BBB? Tune in next week when Anonymous DeucesCracked Grinder sits in for epic drunken micro poo flinging!

(Would be awesome, imo)

Teaser: anonymous DC grinder may actually make an appearance in Episode 4, but we're still working on that.

Wow, I missed the ImsaKidd reference the first time around.

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Epic...

Those are some magic balls kids...... hehe

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How can you c/f this turn with a flush draw and a Queen?!?, getting 3.4 : 1, and a likely river bet implied. I don't get it. Stupid 6max.

Who won the prop bet at the end?

Amazingly I was up FOUR bets at the end. So BBB set a terrible line (-11) and I still lost. We looked afterward and had a big laugh about it. We also realized that I completely forgot about the set of nines early where BBB hijacked the mouse.

I don't know if you can tell from the audio, but BBB is actually covering up the screen with his hand as I pop the 96o, proceed to call out 'I said top TOP,' and then flop the TP.

Yea, heard you guys talking about it... your prognosticating was somewhat fail after but you do have a future with Miss Cloe.

i've just been informed that my OH SHITTTTTTtTTTtTTt!!!!111!one when we see pyg's top pear is really similar to my yelp when i lost in roshambo in a previous ep. my defense is that i'm range balancing.

wow, never knew that. i always thought it was a synonym for rock paper scissors.

dc will have to pay me a lot more per video if i'm gonna get kicked in the nuts over and over

Whore

I thought roshambo was this (first definition listed):
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=roshambo

Which means you've been doing it wrong and we, as paying viewers, demand all previous contests to be replayed.

I think that's because of the this South Park episode. But BBB doesn't watch South Park, so he wouldn't know about it.

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I would raise this flop. You may have the best hand, you have two backdoor draws and two pair outs those times you are behind in a big pot.

I am guessing the UTG is pretty aggressive but I am not sure how to read your stats. I think he could certainly be C betting with worse since this is a big pot and sometimes people just autobet on boards like this.

If you had a read that he doesn't always C bet here then perhaps folding would be best.

I would be more inclined to just call the flop if it had been 3b or capped preflop since a raise wouldn't do any good.

I would raise this flop. You may have the best hand, you have two backdoor draws and two pair outs those times you are behind in a big pot.

I am guessing the UTG is pretty aggressive but I am not sure how to read your stats. I think he could certainly be C betting with worse since this is a big pot and sometimes people just autobet on boards like this.

If you had a read that he doesn't always C bet here then perhaps folding would be best.

I would be more inclined to just call the flop if it had been 3b or capped preflop since a raise wouldn't do any good.

It was mostly that he's betting 5 ways and I just don't see how I'm good / have odds in what's likely going to be a 3 way pot (or more) to the turn.

HUD:
Hands / VPIP / PFR
3b / CC / AF / A%
ASB / FSB / FBB
Tcbet / WtSD / W$SD

(Turn cbet pop up give me flop/turn/river cbet and fold to cbet)

I am not sure about the turn semibluff. The villian 3b you after you raised the UTG player from the HJ. I realize he is aggro but this still is showing a decent amount of strength. Players like this in my experience don't fold on boards like this. There is a flush draw on board and now a potential straight draw which will make this player call down all pocket pairs and Ace high hands. If he is observant and has seen you play before he will know that you pretty much always fast play trips or better on the flop. I highly doubt you will be getting a better hand to fold here.

I think this is the type of board that hits both the top and bottom of the villians range enough to where he will not be folding until possibly the river. On this river the villian may fold if you bet and he has 66,77,KJ,QJ,KQ. If he only has the suited broadways in his range then this may not be enough hands to attempt to fold out. I think a bet is probably still worth it given the size of the pot and to give the villian at least a chance to make a big fold.

Hi motienko, I think you're making some decent points here but I would like to say that I likely would have slowplayed 8x and some pocket pairs. We basically said why in the video - dude has been getting aggressive and 3-betting us and is firing 2 barrels at basically 100%. So I like the value and meta I get from slowplaying some of my bigger hands here. It's a shame we didn't get to see if he'd fold an Ax type hand.

It was mostly that he's betting 5 ways and I just don't see how I'm good / have odds in what's likely going to be a 3 way pot (or more) to the turn.

HUD:
Hands / VPIP / PFR
3b / CC / AF / A%
ASB / FSB / FBB
Tcbet / WtSD / W$SD

(Turn cbet pop up give me flop/turn/river cbet and fold to cbet)

This make sense. The pot is big and at least one of the fish will be calling making it tougher for you to have the best hand or for your best hand to hold up. How much stronger would your hand need to be for you to want to raise this pot or call I suppose?

This make sense. The pot is big and at least one of the fish will be calling making it tougher for you to have the best hand or for your best hand to hold up. How much stronger would your hand need to be for you to want to raise this pot or call I suppose?

Great question. It's tricky because on this board I don't think there's a huge difference between 55 and other non-setted pocket pairs below the king. The former is drawing better when behind (because of the 3 card straight flush draw), but the latter is a bit harder to draw out on if I'm ahead (since villain will only have one over as my pair gets higher).

But I obviously would have 3-bet some of my bigger pairs PF, which changes the entire hand (presumably I'm not getting donked into). I'd say 88 for sure would be a 3-bet PF and I'm feeling like 77 I could kind of go either way.

I know you kind of want to drop me into this spot (as played) with, say, tens, but the truth is I'd never be playing a pot of this size with this hand - it'd either be bigger (and thus more worth continuing in / fighting for) or less multiway (thus increasing the chances of my hand being best).

So...bottom line is I would have 3-bet PF with better hands and more strongly considered continuing with them on the flop. Say I did get bet into - I'd maybe call and see if anyone x/r-ed. And I'd maybe re-evaluate on the turn and release if bets continued to go in multiway.