which one of us is little and which one is small, i wonder?
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which one of us is little and which one is small, i wonder?
sick.
gg on the intro. ![]()
1st hand. vnh waiting for the turn with Kx.
2nd hand. QTo. BBB, in your vids you like to say that you're almost always firing the turn. You even said "I'm putting in money regardless of my hand and the board." I cringed a little at this. just saying.
Also, you aren't necessarily targeting just better hands with a turn bet here. You are targeting ALL hands that cannot continue since your other choice is c/f. I think this is a great spot to bet again.
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I mean no doubt your guys vids are great but I'm not sure they go that far, even for a big LHE fan ![]()
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PWN SUCCESS!!!
Anatomy Fail though....
Pygmy...sorry to say it but the Elephant is still rampaging at this point in the vid
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I can't believe there are comments in this thread and no one has mentioned this yet...
So for those who remember the Roshambo madness from Episode 1 and are wondering what BBB and I got up to this time, check it out here.
I know some NL players stopped by last time to check us out, so just be aware it isn't at the beginning this time around. Also, all future...ahem...non poker diversions will be outros (like this week), not intros.
I can't believe there are comments in this thread and no one has mentioned this yet...
So for those who remember the Roshambo madness from Episode 1 and are wondering what BBB and I got up to this time, check it out here.
I know some NL players stopped by last time to check us out, so just be aware it isn't at the beginning this time around. Also, all future...ahem...non poker diversions will be outros (like this week), not intros.
Haven't got there yet, just up to the "BTW we chop with all Jacks...so what do you do with KJ" bit ![]()
OMG that was awesome
Great strategy as always in the vid guys aside from the board reading miss
but just a couple of pointers...
1) Pluto's a DOG!!!
2) WTF at never having used MSPaint?!!
3) Props to BBB on Brontosaurus Lamp
4) BLUE FILL FTW!!
5) Pygball's fnupple impression was better
6) BBB wins MSPaint comp but Pygmy gets ICWHATUDIDTHAR points ![]()
Can't say fairer than that guys...6'd!!
POW STRAIGHT
epic post-count boost
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in BB v SB at 26:30. Villain cbets and bets the turn on a A
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I would strongly consider raising the turn here. The more that I think about it the more I like it.
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on right at 48:30.
This hand deserves a lot more discussion than it got, imo. The T turn brings a lot of draws. If I'm villain, I wait for the turn with a wide range on this board verses a LAGTAG.
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in BB v SB at 26:30. Villain cbets and bets the turn on a A
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9
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I would strongly consider raising the turn here. The more that I think about it the more I like it.
I'm interested in what you'd want to achieve with this raise. FSDR?
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i think this betting this is definitely fine, but i just wanted to point out to those who may be new to HUHU, especially in game creation, that just calling this is also fine
I like that TT hand where you bet 3 streets on A75tt Qx 8x or close to that. I think I've been missing value in spots like that.
Also, nice lamp sir.
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in BB v SB at 26:30. Villain cbets and bets the turn on a A
2
5
9
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I would strongly consider raising the turn here. The more that I think about it the more I like it.
I'd also be interested in hearing what your rationale for this is. Also, no problem if you don't want to use it, but I think the feature to leave notes along the timeline is super kickass and you should consider utilizing it.
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on right at 48:30.
This hand deserves a lot more discussion than it got, imo. The T turn brings a lot of draws. If I'm villain, I wait for the turn with a wide range on this board verses a LAGTAG.
Are you thinking about calling down? Or checking the turn? I'm not sure if I understand you here. I mean, if he's waiting with a lot of hands (Jx, 6x, pocket pairs), then we're absolutely correct to fold here. It's only if he has a large semi-bluff range that we need to protect ourselves by getting to showdown sometimes. I think both BBB and I felt the latter was pretty unlikely in this case (keep in mind he can't peel the flop knowing a T is going to hit on the turn). I mean, do you really think he's floating here often?
Mike's lamp is the clear winner for me, it has personality and it peed a lot.
HDog is known for her stalling,
BBB is known for his hand calling.
Both of them pondered king jack,
which made their brains rack.
In a moment quite epiphanous,
"The kicker is extraneous!"
the astute Pygmy shouted
and Babar no longer doubted.
After some fawning of fnupple,
it was something to see this odd couple
trying to draw a magic lamp
and being shipped off to MS Paint camp.
awesome episode!
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great work guys.
Mike's lamp wins on LOL count for me ![]()
HDog is known for her stalling,
BBB is known for his hand calling.
Both of them pondered king jack,
which made their brains rack.
In a moment quite epiphanous,
"The kicker is extraneous!"
the astute Pygmy shouted
and Babar no longer doubted.
After some fawning of fnupple,
it was something to see this odd couple
trying to draw a magic lamp
and being shipped off to MS Paint camp.
Wow Mike, awesome!
HDog, hand reading - full points as far as I'm concerned. And way to get fnup and MS Paint in there!
T2
in BB v SB at 26:30. Villain cbets and bets the turn on a A
2
5
9
.
I would strongly consider raising the turn here. The more that I think about it the more I like it.
FSDR, Yes. I think he can fold better, and we protect our hand. He's not 3-betting here unless we are drawing to 2 outs at most. Super unlikely he 3-barrels air this board, so I like it. On this board, I would delay to the turn with Ax some good portion of the time and also some draws.
A7
on right at 48:30.
This hand deserves a lot more discussion than it got, imo. The T turn brings a lot of draws. If I'm villain, I wait for the turn with a wide range on this board verses a LAGTAG.
Pyg:
Are you thinking about calling down? Or checking the turn? I'm not sure if I understand you here. I mean, if he's waiting with a lot of hands (Jx, 6x, pocket pairs), then we're absolutely correct to fold here. It's only if he has a large semi-bluff range that we need to protect ourselves by getting to showdown sometimes. I think both BBB and I felt the latter was pretty unlikely in this case (keep in mind he can't peel the flop knowing a T is going to hit on the turn). I mean, do you really think he's floating here often?
BBB said, if he's semi-bluffing me here, oh well. I think this could use more discussion.
Is he floating often? How many 2-broadway hands of his are folding the flop here? We 3bet his btn open from the sb, so we have a large restealing range (BBB was lagging it up). The board came J66, so we are unpaired a lot. If a second broadway hits, he should have FE verses low PPs, A-high and all worse unpaired, so semi-bluffing here with his 98s/K9/Q9/etc type hands is reasonable, imo.
sick.
gg on the intro.
1st hand. vnh waiting for the turn with Kx.
2nd hand. QTo. BBB, in your vids you like to say that you're almost always firing the turn. You even said "I'm putting in money regardless of my hand and the board." I cringed a little at this. just saying.
Also, you aren't necessarily targeting just better hands with a turn bet here. You are targeting ALL hands that cannot continue since your other choice is c/f. I think this is a great spot to bet again.
we put money in regardless of our hand and the board all the time, imo
and yea i agree that my bet has some two-way value insofar as i can make some random better hands fold and/or charge/make fold worse hands that are drawing
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I think a agree that the KdJs is a fold here on the Ts8h2s board only because of how passive these guys are. With more aggressive opponents I would think a peel is necessary given that they are betting wider ranges. Its still a poor spot with all the reverse domination going on though.
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Hmmm, I even call here with Q9o in the SB after:
a) OL, iso
b) raise, CC
Can this be that bad?
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I in fact have this beanie cap and it does keep my head warm when my Pokerstars beanie cap is not keeping my head warm. So epic read, Todd.
Pyg is the living embodiment of win. Todd is the living embodiment of WAT?
i can't tell what you are referring to with that timestamp
I in fact have this beanie cap and it does keep my head warm when my Pokerstars beanie cap is not keeping my head warm. So epic read, Todd.
second timestamp fail imo, but yes beanie caps ftw imo, and if ftp and stars didn't make em i'd get the bodog one too
Pretty sure that's a vote for MY magic lamp, meaning I take a 3-2 lead (and there's still an inquiry going on about if you bribed your students to vote for you). ![]()
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I'm a little confused here. You think T8s is a standard open from the CO but JTo is a standard fold from the HJ? Can you explain your rationale here?
I'm a little confused here. You think T8s is a standard open from the CO but JTo is a standard fold from the HJ? Can you explain your rationale here?
Can you check the time stamp please? I just listened to me talk about firing the turn with 88 for like 18 minutes.
Also, I see that BBB is the player for this video - are you asking him or me, or just in general?
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Sorry I guess I linked to just after it. Here is a new timestamp like 30 seconds sooner ![]()
I guess I'm asking Babar, but the basic question is "Is the CO vs HJ distinction really THAT important, that'd you'd auto-open T8s in the CO and mostly fold JTo in the HJ?"
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epinephrine
Just wanted to expand Todd's vocabulary.
Sorry I guess I linked to just after it. Here is a new timestamp like 30 seconds sooner
I guess I'm asking Babar, but the basic question is "Is the CO vs HJ distinction really THAT important, that'd you'd auto-open T8s in the CO and mostly fold JTo in the HJ?"
Ah thanks, that's much better. I didn't think to go back a bit but should have. Just elaborating on my video answer - without digging up my HEM I'd guess I open T8s from the CO very close to 100% (and quite possibly 100%), but I'm reasonably certain I open JTo in the HJ much closer to 50%. On the latter I believe motienko asked me about these sorts of hands from the HJ previously and I did look at K9o and JTo (and maybe one or two other similar hands) - I have opened them almost exactly 50% from the HJ.
I will say that I think the difference between the two positions is fairly sizable - we're much more likely to pick up the blinds immediately or inherit the button from the CO than the HJ. There's no real way to quantify those factors, so I guess I'm just offering that one anecdotally.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epinephrine
Just wanted to expand Todd's vocabulary.
You may enjoy this WNYC Radio Lab episode.
I agree with what Pygmy said. I'll also add that in a game with a decent number of tags sprinkled throughout, that having only one guy to your left who can 3bet you when you open (CO), as opposed to two (HJ), is a really big deal. Especially if the button is a tight guy - in that case you can then steal closer to twice an orbit. It's a much rarer parlay to have both the button and the cutoff be tight when it's your hijack.
Also, JTo and T8s are roughly the same hand for me, all things considered, so having that one spot closer to the button makes a huge difference.
Thanks for clarifying guys. I'm working on "more positionally aware" again. I feel like it's 2005.
Where can I get the mod used in this vid?
Where can I get the mod used in this vid?
I think it's the standard DeucesCracked mod for FTP -- not sure who originally made it. I don't remember where I downloaded it from originally but I can send you the .rar file over Skype if you want to -- my skype is bigbadbabar. Maybe someone else knows where to get it online?
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