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After Kristy's spew-fest last episode, the white whale, BalugaWhale is back to talk about a new 100NL 4-tabling session.
BalugaWhale and Kristy Arnett are back for another round of small-stakes escapades. What has Kristy learned in her time away from the elusive white whale?
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At 6:15, I believe Kristy does not fully understanding why she 3-bet Q10o against the polarized opponent. She asked you (Baluga) if it was ok, and you said you liked it. Is the main reason because q10o is at the top of our 3-bet bluff range? (b/c it is tough to play +EV by just calling, and if we get called we still have high card equity that would not exist with say suited connectors?)
I have a question about the note of this Legal Guy. What does the blw means?
I have a question about the note of this Legal Guy. What does the blw means?
Sorry!! At Time 41:30 she answered that question! :-)
Andrew, you have so many super interesting things to say but you are losing track of thoughts a lot. Maybe use a pan and paper during sessions to note what you want to say after you finish current topic.
Just an idea.
Love your work regardless of your amnesia![]()
At 6:15, I believe Kristy does not fully understanding why she 3-bet Q10o against the polarized opponent. She asked you (Baluga) if it was ok, and you said you liked it. Is the main reason because q10o is at the top of our 3-bet bluff range? (b/c it is tough to play +EV by just calling, and if we get called we still have high card equity that would not exist with say suited connectors?)
Ok about what I said.........Kristy clears up that she wants to depolarize against this particular opponent b/c he calls with a bunch of junk......In any case, Kristy and I (or at least I), don't understand why q10o is a good hand. What range of hands are ideal for depolarizing 3-bets - is this hand towards the bottom of our range?
Back to my original post.........if we did want to polarize, would q10o be a ideal hand to 3-bet as a bluff?
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Table 2
When turn and river will be blanks I guess we should go for a c/r on the river, right?
Ok about what I said.........Kristy clears up that she wants to depolarize against this particular opponent b/c he calls with a bunch of junk......In any case, Kristy and I (or at least I), don't understand why q10o is a good hand. What range of hands are ideal for depolarizing 3-bets - is this hand towards the bottom of our range?
QTo is good to 3bet against fish that call all 3bets, because it flops top pairs with decent kickers that can stack the fish who calls with dominated Q's, T's, smaller pais, Ax and random crap. And yes it should be towards the bottom of your depolarized 3betting range because you can't really flop tpgk with much worse than QTo.
if we did want to polarize, would q10o be a ideal hand to 3-bet as a bluff?
It doesn't make much sense to take a hand that you wanna have in your depolarized range and put it in your polarized range. It's pretty much against the concept of polarization.
Think about who you wanna 3bet polarized against? = People who usually fold a lot against 3bets and usually only continue (call) with the best hands (like AJ+, ATs+, TT+, KQ, KJs). Now think about how QTo flops against those hands and you will have the answer to your question. Now think about how a hands like 97s, 68s, Q5s, A3s does against that calling range full of high cards - we like that a little better, right? ![]()
Istvan, what you are saying makes sense when we want to 3-bet depolarized, I understand it now ![]()
As far as 3-betting polarized, I was under the impression that the hands that you can't call profitably are the hands you can start 3-betting as bluffs against someone who folds against 3-bets. I feel like q10o is in this category, and it is one of the best of our lower range..
But if we 3-bet hands like q10o and 3-bet AKo then I suppose that does look like a depolarized range, interesting. Perhaps, I should re-evaluate what hands should be considered in a polarized range...![]()
@10:13, isnt a call standart w JT on BU top left?
I really like your videos guys but if I can say one thing:
Could you pose the video when you are explaining an important concept. Like the 44 hand on low paired board - then you explain what type of hand you 3B, call etc but you interrupted your explanation to talk about another hand that happened at the same time and in the end the whole thing/concept that you explained is a bit unclear.
not in a spot to fully answer everything now (will do later), but will say this:
qto can easily be in a depolarized range against one guy and a polarized range against another. in one case, it might be juuust good enough to 3bet for value, and in the other case, it might be juuuust bad enough to 3bet as a bluff.
Andrew
Have fun in NYC balugaaaaaa
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When turn and river will be blanks I guess we should go for a c/r on the river, right?
sounds good to me
@10:13, isnt a call standart w JT on BU top left?
with a fish in the bb, yeah. without one, all three options could be good.
Andrew
isnt K9s to weak to isolate the UTG from the MP?
i dont think so
Andrew
Andrew, Coaching Kristy 2 Episode 5 should come out today, as it is two weeks after this video. Is the video coming out today? or have you guys not found out how to finish all the episodes?
Andrew, Coaching Kristy 2 Episode 5 should come out today, as it is two weeks after this video. Is the video coming out today? or have you guys not found out how to finish all the episodes?
Nah they are ringing it out, doing it the rest of this season next season..
Last hand of the video, with AK utg 150BB deep: if we 4bet, are we snap calling to a shove from that tight guy ? Are we cbetting (bluffing) that Q high flop ? What type of flop do we feel confortable cbetting (if we miss obv) ?
that greatly depends on what we think hes calling our 4bet with. if my guess is right (that he calls with weak hands given depth and image), then yeah, i think we should c-bet the Q hi board. esp if we think he shoves QQ/AQ preflop.
Andrew
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Andrew, can you comment on bet sizing here? We can make a pretty large bet and still get called a lot.
Andrew, can you comment on bet sizing here? We can make a pretty large bet and still get called a lot.
sure, except that there aren't *that* many things that are trying to call a big turn bet. There aren't very any jacks left, the flush draws all got there, we're challenging him to make a big call with a 9 or a weak straight draw (now that the flush has come in). if he has a hand like AT w/ Ac he's going with it anyway, give him a chance to shove w/ whatever.
Andrew
sure, except that there aren't *that* many things that are trying to call a big turn bet. There aren't very any jacks left, the flush draws all got there, we're challenging him to make a big call with a 9 or a weak straight draw (now that the flush has come in). if he has a hand like AT w/ Ac he's going with it anyway, give him a chance to shove w/ whatever.
Andrew
Makes sense, thanks for the response. My thinking was just so many draws on flop, since he is going with the said hands anyway, why not get a lot of money now, then we can make a smaller bet on the turn in relation to pot but larger in absolute dollar size and he can still shove turn.
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Hey with the 88 hand on the top left what do you think about a 3 bet instead of just a ship? Like making it 2.5x or a little smaller? To me just shipping here does not accomplish too much unless the guy is bad enought that he will call it off w/ K8 or other 8x hands. By raising smaller you might get him to ship over the top with draws and some one pair hands that he might just fold to a ship.
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Hey andrew what do you think about c/r the turn w/ this AQ hand on the top left? You get extra money in against worse Ax hands that might get stubborn plus you charge a draw that is getting stubborn. Or you think it is just best to just give him rope and bluff on different rivers?
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99 hand.
Do you really think a TAG is raising a worse hand for value there? I mean even if he'd call as loose as you said pre (A8s, J8s) what would he achieve by raising? Not that he is gonna get value from any worse hands unless he thinks you are going to spazz out, or am I wrong?
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How much scope do you give to betting 3 or 0 streets? Do you mean specifically on boards like this or is it frequently better to 3 or 0?
How much scope do you give to betting 3 or 0 streets? Do you mean specifically on boards like this or is it frequently better to 3 or 0?
generally more about the player type than the board-- regs will float a lot of things one or two streets and fold a lot of rivers, while fish will either fold flop when they miss or call all the way down.
Andrew
Makes sense, thanks for the response. My thinking was just so many draws on flop, since he is going with the said hands anyway, why not get a lot of money now, then we can make a smaller bet on the turn in relation to pot but larger in absolute dollar size and he can still shove turn.
I think it depends on villian if he is aggro then bet small to induce, if he is somwhat passiv bet big and pray for a call.
16.34: Kristy has AJo in the CO. Unknown opens but he seems to be a regular. Isn't this hand the same type of hand as the ATo? Wouldn't a 3-bet be better?
What do we do with a hand like QKo? If I understand you I think we should also 3-bet that hand instead of calling it? What is the worst broadway then you would always call in a spot like this?
17.00: TQs. Versus a tight regular, shouldn't we be folding TQs? What is our goal with a hand like this? Flopping two pair or better?
34.15: I see why we check back the flop with JJ on K6Qm. What do we do when our opponent bets the turn? Its a spot where I end up calling a lot while it might be just better to fold. It probably depends how often our opponent is betting when we show weakness, but at a big player pool its hard to figure out because the % of unknowns we are playing is huge. Same goes for a spot where we decide to not c-bet with an underpair and the opponent bets out. I end up being tight passive most of the time.
43.38: we bet the turn for value on J8xQ, what do we do when we get called and we get the river A? check/fold? I think betting for value gets too thin? I don't think we can check/call on the river.
What if the river was not an A, but a low card? Can we then bet for value again?
51.59: Isn't MP in this hand too tight to be calling A7s on the button? He playes 15/13 after 46 hands. What are we doing with this type of hand? Trying to hit the nuts? I can't see us bluf catching? what about TKs in the very next hand?
59.37: Why do we have bad fold equity with AK on a Q96r board?
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