IN the first hand when villain has KQ and flops straight. If you were him, what would you do differently?
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IN the first hand when villain has KQ and flops straight. If you were him, what would you do differently?
IN the first hand when villain has KQ and flops straight. If you were him, what would you do differently?
Would you (if you were him) float the 100$ flop bet instead of reraising, hoping the other two players get in the pot?
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What do you think of Big Guy not raising AKs preflop?
And, what would you have done on the river if he called and not reraised your turn bet? (providing it was a river blank like 2h)
Was disappointed to see that this was the same ol HH review. Overall OK vid, did find some concepts that are pretty basic.
Hope the rest of the series will really focus on playing live poker instead of poker fundamentals for micro stakes.
Still think Bart produces some of the better content for DC. Bring back the live play please. As I mentioned in the previous episode thread, use other player hands if you do not have enough footage of your own LATB play. Thank you.
p.s. No O8 stuff pls.
Time Link to 00:00:55
this format is great, too, but i prefer the live footage. as a bonus, for those who haven't played much live, it can be helpful just to see the expressions/posture/etc at a typical cash game.
My only criticism is that it should be 2 hours instead of 1. As theres only 4 or 5 hands in an episode, its easy to focus on and concentrate. With an online 4 or 6 table review, its a lot harder to take in the information.
Live footage is better for sure.
Was disappointed to see that this was the same ol HH review. Overall OK vid, did find some concepts that are pretty basic.
Hope the rest of the series will really focus on playing live poker instead of poker fundamentals for micro stakes.
Still think Bart produces some of the better content for DC. Bring back the live play please. As I mentioned in the previous episode thread, use other player hands if you do not have enough footage of your own LATB play. Thank you.
p.s. No O8 stuff pls.
i think the hands might not be terribly complex, but they all raise a lot of issues for players new to live poker. bart talks about a lot of live specific tendencies in very good depth.
personally, i really liked the live footage and the commentary, but the HH review is great too. i'm just delving into O8 so i'd definitely be interested in seeing some hands of that. great series, keep it coming!
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re: results oriented
you use the term correctly (it would be results oriented to hate your call when he had a hand you expected to be in his betting range) but i think a lot of people misunderstand it.
for instance, if you saw him bet Qx, to say your call becomes bad is not 'results oriented' in the pejorative sense - you have learned information that contradicts an assumption you made. however, to see AK and immediately hate your call would be results oriented, since we haven't learned anything about his frequencies (well, possibly a SMALL bit since i am not sure you included AK in his river range at all).
cliffs: results oriented = reevaluating decision based on opponent showing up with a hand we already expected to be in his range.
Stick to Holdem please
thanks
Would you still play live at 2/2 (100bb = 200) if the rake was 10$ with a cap of 10$?
If so, what sort of winrate do you think is possible?
(you get, that this is the case in my country)
Would you still play live at 2/2 (100bb = 200) if the rake was 10$ with a cap of 10$?
If so, what sort of winrate do you think is possible?
(you get, that this is the case in my country)
Rake of 10% you mean?
Are you Australia?
IN the first hand when villain has KQ and flops straight. If you were him, what would you do differently?
I think that he should either raise more or just call. He's basically pricing me into my draw and players like this will never fold with these stacks when they flop the nuts. I've also seen really bad bet sizing on the turn which allows your opponent to again correctly call and take the rest of your stack on the river.
What do you think of Big Guy not raising AKs preflop?
And, what would you have done on the river if he called and not reraised your turn bet? (providing it was a river blank like 2h)
I never have a huge problem with flatting AK pre flop. If the river was a blank and he checked of course I would bet for value.
Rake of 10% you mean?
Are you Australia?
I doesn't seem like a game like that would be beatable.
I think that he should either raise more or just call. He's basically pricing me into my draw and players like this will never fold with these stacks when they flop the nuts. I've also seen really bad bet sizing on the turn which allows your opponent to again correctly call and take the rest of your stack on the river.
Thanks for your feedback once again. Marcel
Bart, I noticed from the first video to this one the hands are mostly against a soft spot and not a reg, which I understand, since most of the players pool are bad. I hope to see you make videos in the future playing against good live reg. Regarding the poket 4s hand around 25:00, would you value bet thin there against a reg. Furthermore, is it exploitable for regs to reraise you on the river when you make those smallish bets on the river.
Bart, I noticed from the first video to this one the hands are mostly against a soft spot and not a reg, which I understand, since most of the players pool are bad. I hope to see you make videos in the future playing against good live reg. Regarding the poket 4s hand around 25:00, would you value bet thin there against a reg. Furthermore, is it exploitable for regs to reraise you on the river when you make those smallish bets on the river.
I would definitely bet this hand against the a reg. Its incredibly rare for guys to bluff raise rivers even if they are competent players at this level. You can follow my twitter @barthanson for some up dates about upcoming training material.
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what would you do in this hand had he just called your turn bet, and then shipped it in on a river blank?
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Even vs rec player, if it doesn't fold around to you are you folding this hand pre? Thought process is anyone in the field giving you heavy action likely is coolering you
Are you talking about if it folded to me in late position would I open?
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In this hand, you go on and on that your opponent is playing his hand face up & he's going to get folds from pretty much everything that doesn't necessarily have him crushed. But what do you think of his play as a "bluff-raise"? Since your read on him states that hes going to be super strong here. What if he makes this raise with air & gets hands like 99, TT, A8 & so on to fold & if he gets resistance as in in a call or a re-raise, he can muck his hand knowing that his opponent has a monster with minimal cost. This line (in my opinion) can take down the pot without having the best hand, not have to bet 2 or 3 streets & get called down with a hand that would normally fold to the 3bet. I would't necessarily use this line often, but what do you think of it (if used very minimally), especially when your read on your opponent is him having an over pair?
In this hand, you go on and on that your opponent is playing his hand face up & he's going to get folds from pretty much everything that doesn't necessarily have him crushed. But what do you think of his play as a "bluff-raise"? Since your read on him states that hes going to be super strong here. What if he makes this raise with air & gets hands like 99, TT, A8 & so on to fold & if he gets resistance as in in a call or a re-raise, he can muck his hand knowing that his opponent has a monster with minimal cost. This line (in my opinion) can take down the pot without having the best hand, not have to bet 2 or 3 streets & get called down with a hand that would normally fold to the 3bet. I would't necessarily use this line often, but what do you think of it (if used very minimally), especially when your read on your opponent is him having an over pair?
I'm not sure why you would want to bluff raise air here when most players in my spot are not going to fold QQ+ in a 3 bet pot on an 8 high board. It may work against me specifically but these guys' lines come from playing against "normal" opponents. Theyre not adjusting to the actual players in the hand.
Having a gameplan of bluff checkraising in 3 bet pots in in live passive games is definitely going to be -ev over the longterm.
I completely agree... In loose passive games this would definitely not be a line I would take. I wasn't necessarily implying that this play would be for a loose passive game. I'm used to tables with smart thinking tags who often switch gears & are all winning players. So since this was the thought process in your head at the time (which makes complete sense), I was just seeing if you would agree that this would be the same general thought process of most thinking players. Therefore, in situations such as those, do you think that this a line that can be used on a very limited basis with a positive expected value?
I normally play on the east coast at The Borgata, but I'll be in Cali all of next week & will be at Commerce for the most part. I've been seeing you label 80% of the players your playing with as losing players & that hasn't really been the case out here lately. Its been much harder finding +ev tables during the week. So see you there if your there & was also wondering if there was anywhere else you'd recommend playing 5/10 in that area? I'm not too big a fan of Commerce. Just their Mongolian Beef.
-NYtoCALI
I dont understand. So you're saying a shutout bet, designed to take down a pot right then and there is never a good idea? Each time you bet it should be to get worse hands to call or better hands to fold? In other words value bet or bluff/semi bluff or dont bet at all? Check raises to build up the pot before taking it down when u feel ur ahead is bad?? How do you distinguish between a shut out bet, an over-rep, blowing out ur value, playing ur hand face-up, or protecting your hand??
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How would you have played this hand? Considering everything you know about this hand, holdings, turn, river, etc. How do you envision this hand playing out if you were in the reg's shoes and not making that horrible play?
First hand your cbet is probably a mistake since stacks are short and 2 of the 3 players have a pretty tight range. c/c flop is probably better for two reasons, 1) its more profitable since you are getting raised >50% of the time, 2) No one will put you on a K high flush draw since they expect you to always bet the flop.
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