dangerfish
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The 88 hand is interesting and I think ur analysis is spot on. I think you can take 66 out of Am's range on the turn as he is always betting that hand so to me his raise looks like JJ, qj or a bluff and since I don't know him I can't speculate on how often he is bluffing but I think you can find a fold vs his value raising range given I do not think he checks turn with 66 and does not value raise the st8. Liked the content a lot, well done.
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dangerfish
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mogwai316
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Thanks for going over my hands. I think I've been drifting towards missing value lately because I've been trying to control my spewing tendencies.. these hands kinda show that I may have gone too far in the other direction though. Hopefully everybody will try to get me to fold overpairs in 3-bet pots now. 
In the hand against the fish, it was just really scary when he donked the turn on that board. If he had donked any smaller, I think I'd have shoved, but at the time it felt really strong and I just kinda froze and thought he had a big hand and didn't want me to check behind. My plan was to call and stack off on a blank river because he could bluff missed draws and I could fold on bad cards like the one that came. But I think you're right that just getting it in on the turn is better, cause he could stack off with draws, pair+draws, or even worse made hands.
The last hand was really cool, even though it wasn't actually a 3-bet pot. Zep actually did pretty well to not lose his entire stack there, I think a lot of people would've gotten themselves stacked in that situation.
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poolsweeper
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Hi Nolan,
Some great content so far. Discussion re villian's turn donk on the KK hand was tops imo.
I like the shorter length vids for these sorts of topics - think it works well, as is particularly good for those of us in office jobs who like to try and squeeze in a vid at lunch time!
Re future content, I would really like to see some hands where hero calls 3bets in position and therefore doesn't have the initiative in the hand.
Cheers ps
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dangerfish
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The last hand was really cool, even though it wasn't actually a 3-bet pot. Zep actually did pretty well to not lose his entire stack there, I think a lot of people would've gotten themselves stacked in that situation.[/quote]
I agree it was an interesting hand but I am not inclined to go overboard commending Zep's play here. Like I said earlier if you know villain's bluffing range here I think you can find a fold on the river (assuming it is low-never) and I really think the turn is an easy lead given one opponent is likely to be calling and I don't think you induce enough bluffs by checking and qx is not always value betting but will definitely call a bet 100% of the time.
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DeucesOnCrack
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FlamingMoe86
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MrBug
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Excellent discussion on the final hand. I think the lesson that Qx doesn't always value bet the turn (and the reason why) was very instructive.
I can only imagine what Hero must have been thinking on the river: "OMG you have got to be fing kidding me... um... 66?!"
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SevenNineSuited
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Nolan, great stuff!! More, more, more (but I do like the .5 hour length for the replayer stuff).
As MrBug said, that stuff about not betting Qx was incredibly insightful.
Finally: Selfish beg for more micro live action fr vids in the future.
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ladymuck
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ddubois
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Commentary on this hand is tilting me. "Find a fold"? There are four combos of T9s, all of which over-call the flop with the double-gut. There are two combos of QJs (FR regs don't flat EP raises with QJo). In fact, QJs might not even over-call the flop - JJ 99% would not, so we can eliminate that. I snap call the river expecting to be good >50% of the time, even if he literally a) never bluffs and b) never has 66.
I'll defer commenting on the turn, because I cannot make an estimate as to how often QJs bets the turn versus how often T9s bets it.
Also, and this should be obvious from my >50% figure above, I cannot agree that T9s does not raise the river. He has seen absolutely no indication that anyone might be full to this point. The only possible argument I can give for villain flatting T9s would be to get an overall from hero, but even that is very improbable, because hero looks totally done with the hand.
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