Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by DJ Sensei (Micro/Small Stakes)

Time Link to 00:07:02

Isn't image super important in this spot. I would think how hero & opponent play their draws would weigh heavily on the decision to bet or not.

And what our range looks like to him.

Isn't image super important in this spot. I would think how hero & opponent play their draws would weigh heavily on the decision to bet or not.

And what our range looks like to him.

Image can definitely be very important if we think our opponent will be paying attention. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe our read on this guy was that he had some weak-tight tendencies. Against guys that are prone to just folding too much(read: weak-tight), we often don't have to worry as much about our own range and things like that and we can just pour on the raw aggression.

Against a stronger player we definitely have to be aware of our range.

Time Link to 00:56:10

u need to stop c - betting on all flops

Time Link to 00:21:41

So vs. a player who is going to check raise with so much of his range do we like a check call then oop?

So vs. a player who is going to check raise with so much of his range do we like a check call then oop?

If he has position he can't checkraise. If we expect him to raise the turn often then I think check-calling (or checkfolding if the price is bad) is better than betting.

hahah dj You know how many times I say checkraise and people correct me. Thanks for overlooking my wording flaw and answering the question.

u need to stop c - betting on all flops

Given that this is a video on BARRELLING it's hardly surprising that they are c-betting all flops

On the last hand how often do you guys see that turn bet being kind of like a blocking bet to try and see a river for cheap with a flush draw?

On the last hand how often do you guys see that turn bet being kind of like a blocking bet to try and see a river for cheap with a flush draw?

Fairly often, actually, at least against weaker/less creative players. Though in a good player vs. good player scenario, I think you're less likely to see draws and more likely to see big hands pretending to be a draw and hoping to get raised.

Fairly often, actually, at least against weaker/less creative players. Though in a good player vs. good player scenario, I think you're less likely to see draws and more likely to see big hands pretending to be a draw and hoping to get raised.

I find myself always raising the turn in spots like that to get them off what I perceive as overcards or some random draw (which from watching this series, I'm finding to be a leak). Since we flat, is there any river we don't instacall against given the same river bet size?

Time Link to 00:19:19

I realize my comment here is months after the video was initially released, but I hope people will still see/respond to this. I don't think this specific re-raise from this villain should be viewed as strongly as it was. I think we had a read that villain was aggressive post flop and is looking to take the pot away often. I think we have to remember villain closes the action here and that he's a decent player who realizes this. If he has a real hand that absolutely crushes us, he can def go for a river c/r. It looks like we're going to be barreling here on the river on almost all cards, we're doing this super wide both as a bluff and for value. If villain was going to re raise us (clue us in that he has a monster), he might as well have done it on the flop when he's definitely going to be called once by a wide range of gutters, pair+ straight draws at least one time. A ton of our range, even for value hates facing a RR here on the turn and I think villain is exploiting that fact.

Also on the flip side, if we were the villain and is a thinking aggressive player, who's looking to take pots away on good turns and rivers. When we actually do have a slowplayed value hand like 33 or any set or 2pr, do we want to reraise the 8 here, (i dont think they're worried about balance enough to be doing this)? If villain gets 3bet on this turn isn't villain almost always behind even when they have set+. All the hands that call our reraise once is likely to barrel the river for value. It seems to be hard for (hero) to be value betting a made straight enough to get all in OOP here, is villain going to help us by reraising with the bulk of his value ranges?
I guess a lot of this depends on what level we believe our villain is on, I think he's more of the type to be taking advantage of the strength of the board and our wide barreling range rather than the type that is 1(or more) level(s) above that and is re raising here for balance and value b/c we don't think he'd play 8t like this and will be calling tj at to bluff catch and or improve b/c he's so aggro that we find it hard to fold value hands vs him.

I realize my comment here is months after the video was initially released, but I hope people will still see/respond to this. I don't think this specific re-raise from this villain should be viewed as strongly as it was. I think we had a read that villain was aggressive post flop and is looking to take the pot away often. I think we have to remember villain closes the action here and that he's a decent player who realizes this. If he has a real hand that absolutely crushes us, he can def go for a river c/r. It looks like we're going to be barreling here on the river on almost all cards, we're doing this super wide both as a bluff and for value. If villain was going to re raise us (clue us in that he has a monster), he might as well have done it on the flop when he's definitely going to be called once by a wide range of gutters, pair+ straight draws at least one time. A ton of our range, even for value hates facing a RR here on the turn and I think villain is exploiting that fact.

Also on the flip side, if we were the villain and is a thinking aggressive player, who's looking to take pots away on good turns and rivers. When we actually do have a slowplayed value hand like 33 or any set or 2pr, do we want to reraise the 8 here, (i dont think they're worried about balance enough to be doing this)? If villain gets 3bet on this turn isn't villain almost always behind even when they have set+. All the hands that call our reraise once is likely to barrel the river for value. It seems to be hard for (hero) to be value betting a made straight enough to get all in OOP here, is villain going to help us by reraising with the bulk of his value ranges?
I guess a lot of this depends on what level we believe our villain is on, I think he's more of the type to be taking advantage of the strength of the board and our wide barreling range rather than the type that is 1(or more) level(s) above that and is re raising here for balance and value b/c we don't think he'd play 8t like this and will be calling tj at to bluff catch and or improve b/c he's so aggro that we find it hard to fold value hands vs him.

I don't think we should have a very wide barreling range here. The only stuff we will barrel are hand like the one we actually hold. If we have AK we would just check here, for example. I think this villain likely realizes that. If he is trying to take us off a hand it is likely that he is trying to take us off a TP/OP type hand that doesn't like that card. That in and of itself should decrease his bluffing frequencies. Also, if he does have a big hand he might be a little less likely to flat here because there are a lot of bad cards than can come on the river to either kill his action or suck out on him.

I don't think we should have a very wide barreling range here. The only stuff we will barrel are hand like the one we actually hold. If we have AK we would just check here, for example. I think this villain likely realizes that. If he is trying to take us off a hand it is likely that he is trying to take us off a TP/OP type hand that doesn't like that card. That in and of itself should decrease his bluffing frequencies. Also, if he does have a big hand he might be a little less likely to flat here because there are a lot of bad cards than can come on the river to either kill his action or suck out on him.

I agree that we are checking hands like aq ak, giving up most underpairs, just about every 2nd pair here and the fact there are no bd fds on here lessens our turn bluff barreling combinations. I also agree that if a 6 7 j q comes off on the river it's going to be tough for him to value bet if he was slow playing a monster. I just feel that our opponent is raise happy and is good enough to realize that we're going to be barreling our tp op+(top of our range) for value but is hating reraises oop, and at the very bottom of our range there are still 24 combos of kq/kj that would be giving up oop. I realize if we are adding all hands we will call a reraise with here eg. tp+ and monsters it outweighs our kj/kq combos but i think with most of the top of our range we're hating to be raised and is almost always shutting down oop. I think this is an easy fold vs any sort of a straightforward postflop player, but i feel our villain takes advantage of this spot more than his fair share.

It is interesting to note that he showed up with the bottom end of a draw here (i made my post prior to seeing his hole cards, b/c when i saw that raise i felt like he doesn't have a hand strong enough for a reraise there but we couldn't call our hand for value or implied odds imo).

Are we ever 3betting this turn vs this opponent type? If so on what kind of turn cards? It seems if our villain bds a good draw with a lot of equity, like a bd fd, he will just call a 2nd barrel, does that make his reraises on the turn more polarized b/w monsters and hands that will fold and can't call a turn 3b when he reraises us, even if we 3b a very small amount. Also what does this mean when he's in position versus out of position, is he more likely to bluff/semi bluff his bad draws in or oop? I guess im surprised he rr'ed 77 on the turn and didn't follow up a river bet b/c when you call the turn, i see a ton of hands that have him beat but will fold to a river bet eg tj tq op+.

I agree that we are checking hands like aq ak, giving up most underpairs, just about every 2nd pair here and the fact there are no bd fds on here lessens our turn bluff barreling combinations. I also agree that if a 6 7 j q comes off on the river it's going to be tough for him to value bet if he was slow playing a monster. I just feel that our opponent is raise happy and is good enough to realize that we're going to be barreling our tp op+(top of our range) for value but is hating reraises oop, and at the very bottom of our range there are still 24 combos of kq/kj that would be giving up oop. I realize if we are adding all hands we will call a reraise with here eg. tp+ and monsters it outweighs our kj/kq combos but i think with most of the top of our range we're hating to be raised and is almost always shutting down oop. I think this is an easy fold vs any sort of a straightforward postflop player, but i feel our villain takes advantage of this spot more than his fair share.

It is interesting to note that he showed up with the bottom end of a draw here (i made my post prior to seeing his hole cards, b/c when i saw that raise i felt like he doesn't have a hand strong enough for a reraise there but we couldn't call our hand for value or implied odds imo).

Are we ever 3betting this turn vs this opponent type? If so on what kind of turn cards? It seems if our villain bds a good draw with a lot of equity, like a bd fd, he will just call a 2nd barrel, does that make his reraises on the turn more polarized b/w monsters and hands that will fold and can't call a turn 3b when he reraises us, even if we 3b a very small amount. Also what does this mean when he's in position versus out of position, is he more likely to bluff/semi bluff his bad draws in or oop? I guess im surprised he rr'ed 77 on the turn and didn't follow up a river bet b/c when you call the turn, i see a ton of hands that have him beat but will fold to a river bet eg tj tq op+.

also i'd like to add that his reraise handcuffs us when we have jq, raising his reraise makes us look too strong and blows off all his bluffs, check calling and hoping he bluffs again sucks as well. If he has a marginal value hand it could be that he's doing this to determine his own showdown for cheap.

Time Link to 00:20:00

It seems to me that this is a spot where shoving is way better than calling. Seems pretty clear that villain has a pretty weak made hand - definitely wouldn't be surprised to see like A9/AT, in addition to something like 89, which may even fold to a shove, depending on history. I just really think that, with a hand like TT or JQ, villain would be raising 28 to something bigger - like at least 3x, in order to set stacks up for a river shove. Not saying I shove in spots like this all the time - but I'm pretty sure he wants us to call with things like KJ here.

Time Link to 00:31:00

What about check/calling?
Villain is going to check back weaker pairs if we check and bet with hands that beats up and floats. The only hands that beats us and that villain is going to bet is KJ+ and sets.

Time Link to 00:48:43

villain limp/calls so he most prob is a fish. why cbet larger if his calling range most prob doesn't change? fish will call with a any pair and any draw so why don't bet 1/2psb and make him fold is air?

Time Link to 00:50:17

come on! when have you seen fish folding a draw vs a second barrel? or 9x? i think this turn play is really really bad. you're just valuetowning yourself.

What about check/calling?
Villain is going to check back weaker pairs if we check and bet with hands that beats up and floats. The only hands that beats us and that villain is going to bet is KJ+ and sets.

Its not a bad option, though it leaves us with an uncomfortable river spot if he does bet. Because we don't have a great idea of his range for betting the river as well, we aren't clear on whether we should c/c or c/f it. If we bet turn and get called, we have an easier c/f on the end because he'll check back everything that we beat and bet everything that we lose to (though if he checks back a better hand, thats obviously fine with us). And if we bet turn and he folds, we probably weren't going to get much more value from our hand regardless of how it played out (also, we should probably start to fire more second barrel bluffs against this guy).

villain limp/calls so he most prob is a fish. why cbet larger if his calling range most prob doesn't change? fish will call with a any pair and any draw so why don't bet 1/2psb and make him fold is air?

Sounds good to me. And even if a smaller bet makes him open up his calling range more, it'll be hands that we are actually ahead of, like gutshots. Because he's passive he's unlikely to bluff optimally with those after calling flop, so we have a good chance of showing down the best hand.

come on! when have you seen fish folding a draw vs a second barrel? or 9x? i think this turn play is really really bad. you're just valuetowning yourself.

Why would we want him to fold a draw to a second barrel? We beat draws! (except AcXc). If he's folding pairs smaller than 9 and calling with all draws, I think betting is clearly good.