haha i sent some good hands
DeathDonkey and Entity fill the cast for this week's episode of Dear Limidonks. If you've ever wondered what the right way to play a hand is, then you cannot ask both of these guys cause they will never agree, but it's enlightening to listen to the debates.
The DC LHE contingent answers YOUR questions about hand histories!
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haha i sent some good hands
I love the video guys. I am curious though Rob you dont play LHE anymore? What do you play?
I love the video guys. I am curious though Rob you dont play LHE anymore? What do you play?
He plays some PLO and some CEO ![]()
Time Link to 00:29:22
I like the discussion about c/r range on this type of board. I think DD started to hit on it a little towards the end, but I don't see anything wrong with having a horribly unbalanced c/r range here.
As you've both said, it's a drawy enough board that the typical LAG or LAGTAG at these limits (especially a spaz, as we've tagged the villain) is not going to fold Ax or a pocket pair ever. I'm guessing that most of the people who are active in the forums here all play a lag-taggy type game, so our image is going to be someone who is capable of semibluffing at these types of boards. So why not have a few draws and tons of value hands?
Honestly I'd c/r T9cc and JTcc on this board and probably no other draws. The rest would be Qx, 8x, and 99+. I really don't think most villains are capable of adapting or exploiting this type of play, and even if they are it will take a long time for them to catch on.
Time Link to 00:41:23
When we decide if to XF or XC the simplest GTO model is as follows (I hijack OTR's mission here
): Villain is gettnig 135:20 on a bluff. Therefore if we fold our weakest 20/(135+20)~= 13% he is break even on it. This is very easy to look up in ...drum.. drum.. drum ... taaadaaaa: POKERAZOR!
[Go to "Range Explorer". Enter ur range and the board. Press "Calculate". Go to the "River tab" and then the "Villain's hand range"-tab.]
Let's say our river range is: A3, A4, A7-6, AJ-9, KQ-T, for example (here Im assuming we XR all pairs earlier), we need to call with about half our KJ and better (to have a certain percentage to call AJ doesn't make any sense. We should instead think in terms of threhold hands). If we assume we fold KT on the turn the threshold goes somwhere in the KQ region.
However this model is not the gospel, because it views the river in isolation (if villain has say JT he has allready paid money to be in position to bluff the river for example) and it doesn't take into account our right to bluff-raise.
To improve these ideas we need a multi-street model. However I'm not super comfortable how that works right now, so Im gonna have to leave that to OTR.
Also if we donk a hand like AJ+ our checking range becomes super weak and we probably have to call some KT hands aswell.
For more on how to be hard to exploit I recomend this weaks ep of Razor's edge where I explain a method to find tough strats using pokerazor
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