droollllllll, I've been waiting for a mixed game series! I even tried to make one myself haha. Glad to see this is on here!
Danzasmack takes on the 7 game. This video outlines his Best of 7 series and then Danzasmack gets his feet wet by jumping right into the games. He talks of how a players tendencies can carry between different game types.
Ghost the best of DeucesCracked in the shorthanded games they play in today.
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droollllllll, I've been waiting for a mixed game series! I even tried to make one myself haha. Glad to see this is on here!
The audio is kinda poor...
Was pretty psyched with this series, shame about the vid quality - audio and video compression seems so high it's hard to hear it at times :| this is on the mp4 downloaded version.
Hey guys,
Sorry about the audio we're working on it.
In the MEAN TIME, if there's anything you can't hear or want explained further or have random questions about mixed games, I will answer.
PS - oddly enough this was recorded with a brand new headset. Returning it today as I have a new one coming in the mail. Stupid audio equipment.
what is your worst game in the rotation? your best game?
what makes a good game? if there's a huge drooler at one of the games who is competent at most of the others, is he a good spot?
I think my worst game would probably be PLO. I think I play PLO better than I play razz but there are some better PLO players in the game so relatively it's my worst.
Again, as far as best, LHE is definitely my best but relatively I'd say O8.
As far as a good game goes - I'm not sure there's someone who's TERRIBLE at one game and good at the other 6. If you're good at NLHE, how bad can you be at limit? and PLO? So if someone is just drool-happy in 1 game I'd often consider him a really good spot.
Also, especially with the ORSE stuff, 3rd and pf leaks usually mean people stick around until the river/7th with junk and make big pots. So 1 or 2 really bad players can make a bad game great.
Hey danza, thanks for doing this vid.
For someone who would like to learn more games but has very little experience or knowledge of any of them outside of NLH and a little PLO, Stud and Stud/8, would you advise watching this series, or watching specific series on each of the games first? Or at least each of the more common games with lots of vids like LHE and Stud?
Thanks again!
16 minutesish in. you defend Q3s and then mention that villain in small blind stacked off in PLO.. but he left and this was a new player... not sure that that would affect your decision, since we really dont have anything, butwhat if it wasnt monotone and there was a heart ont he boarD?
Hey Chuck,
i feel like the big bet games play larger than the limit games, would you suggest playing smaller than comfortable to avoid big swings in the NL games if i'm primarily a limit player?
for example, i'm comfortable playing PLO50 (and possibly PLO100)... but im definitely comfortable playing 2/4-5/10 limit holdem/o8
Hey danza, thanks for doing this vid.
For someone who would like to learn more games but has very little experience or knowledge of any of them outside of NLH and a little PLO, Stud and Stud/8, would you advise watching this series, or watching specific series on each of the games first? Or at least each of the more common games with lots of vids like LHE and Stud?
Thanks again!
Hey TheGeek,
I talk about this a bunch in the beginning of the episode - definitely focus on specific games first.
So for you I would start with PLO, brush up on your stud and stud8, then work on razz. From there I'd check out the differences between LHE and NLHE (we have some NL for LHE guys but we are always looking for more converts in the LHE community!). Then i'd round it up with O8, which should be easy for you by then. It's a big task but these games are good and it's worth it imo.
If you have a decent enough knowledge base to be playing in a small stakes 7game, I would focus on 1 game at a time still while mixing in a few 7 game sessions. By that I mean, pick 2 weeks to work on razz. If you run like god in razz for 3 sessions don't cross it off and move on to whatever game you ran horribly in. Structure is your friend here.
16 minutesish in. you defend Q3s and then mention that villain in small blind stacked off in PLO.. but he left and this was a new player... not sure that that would affect your decision, since we really dont have anything, butwhat if it wasnt monotone and there was a heart ont he boarD?
Whoops sorry about that.
If there was a heart no way I'm folding. I think calling is ok and I'd bet the turn if checked to. People in general aren't good at barreling so calling with what is certainly good enough equity on that flop works for me.
Hey Chuck,
i feel like the big bet games play larger than the limit games, would you suggest playing smaller than comfortable to avoid big swings in the NL games if i'm primarily a limit player?
for example, i'm comfortable playing PLO50 (and possibly PLO100)... but im definitely comfortable playing 2/4-5/10 limit holdem/o8
yes definitely and get working on those big bet games! They are super soft in the 7!
The $2/$4 7 game will have 100PLO in there so that's perfect for you.
Thanks for the advice Chuck. I'm looking forward to learning other games but it's so difficult to fit them all in when you're still a novice in your main games and when there's so much content about NLH and PLO on DC. I'm sure this will help though. Thanks again for the advice!
Stick to your main game. If you have 1 day a week to "take a break" from your main game and move over to a 2nd game do it like that.
yeah it's a lot. It's been almost two years for me at DeucesCracked and I finally feel comfortable in all these games. TWO YEAR. FULL TIME. So much stuff to learn.
Stupid Joe.
Stick to your main game. If you have 1 day a week to "take a break" from your main game and move over to a 2nd game do it like that.
yeah it's a lot. It's been almost two years for me at DeucesCracked and I finally feel comfortable in all these games. TWO YEAR. FULL TIME. So much stuff to learn.
Stupid Joe.
LOL, classic!! Sounds like ball really made you work
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Don't you think it's better to check/shove this flop ?
Because when you donk you fold all his hands that missed, but if you check he is probably shoving most of it anyway as a bluff.
Don't you think it's better to check/shove this flop ?
Because when you donk you fold all his hands that missed, but if you check he is probably shoving most of it anyway as a bluff.
Shoving is always the better play here. Even his hands that missed have great equity against us and we would prefer he folds.
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Not necessarily hand specific, but when contemplating opening A6o UTG when 5 handed(limit) you clicked the time button. In limit games or at this level, do you think this affects the villains in any way? I'm curious if it adds any fold equity at all, especially for those in the blinds.
Also, great job you're doing with your TV show Glee. Good actor. ![]()
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What happened to hand #3 here in Stud8? It appears that it was played because of the stack size difference, but seems to have been deleted.
Not necessarily hand specific, but when contemplating opening A6o UTG when 5 handed(limit) you clicked the time button. In limit games or at this level, do you think this affects the villains in any way? I'm curious if it adds any fold equity at all, especially for those in the blinds.
Also, great job you're doing with your TV show Glee. Good actor.
Wait which glee guy am I? lol.
Anyway, clicking time is something we have to do to make videos. I'm sure the "thinking" may effect my opponents thoughts but what can you do, liveplay videos are received with much more enthusiasm.
What happened to hand #3 here in Stud8? It appears that it was played because of the stack size difference, but seems to have been deleted.
Mic fail so hard it was not even recorded. The action skips a bit sorry.
Shoving is always the better play here. Even his hands that missed have great equity against us and we would prefer he folds.
yah I like the ship ship.
gg Chuck, I really like the concept behind the video. I never thought about mistakes and styles "transitioning" from a game to another, but still realized the most obvious ones, like a loose/passive player in one game tends to be equally l/p in the others.
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standard steal spot for you? i usually just fold here, especially w/ 3 lo cards behind (= taking it down on 3rd much less often), to avoid those spots with a rough lo draw or a crappy high hand should I catch a pair. Make the 8 a 3
and I MUCH rather complete here.
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I 2-bet 100% here. Villain is generally not putting us on a hidden high pair , but much rather a smooth 3-lo with some straight or flush potential and will overplay his 4-low or pair+3-lo hands on 4th imo if we 'brick'.
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(A8)7 in razz: do you call here with a smoother 8 or only a 7 or better? Does it make much difference if there are no low door cards behind you?
Wait which glee guy am I? lol.
Anyway, clicking time is something we have to do to make videos. I'm sure the "thinking" may effect my opponents thoughts but what can you do, liveplay videos are received with much more enthusiasm.
Will Schuester of course, the teacher responsible for Glee. My wife and I were watching it, I said he looks sorta like Danzasmack. I pulled up your DC photo and she thought the photo I pulled up was him ![]()
But seriously, I understand the need(time btn) in live play vids, but I wonder if it does have an affect, like possibly initiating checking of auto fold or anything like that. I might try it with different player types and positions to see what happens.
standard steal spot for you? i usually just fold here, especially w/ 3 lo cards behind (= taking it down on 3rd much less often), to avoid those spots with a rough lo draw or a crappy high hand should I catch a pair. Make the 8 a 3and I MUCH rather complete here.
Yeah I think I should have pitched on 3rd.
I 2-bet 100% here. Villain is generally not putting us on a hidden high pair , but much rather a smooth 3-lo with some straight or flush potential and will overplay his 4-low or pair+3-lo hands on 4th imo if we 'brick'.
Right. I think I got a little ahead of myself, waiting for a big street to put in more $ or waiting for 4th at least. I think it's a good play in general, and obviously when it comes out T/7 I'm in great shape but raising 3rd is also fine. ESPECIALLY in s8.
(A8)7 in razz: do you call here with a smoother 8 or only a 7 or better? Does it make much difference if there are no low door cards behind you?
It's CLOSE but he is opening into a 7 and an Ace so I think waiting for a 7 might be a bit better. Tough to pitch A28 here, would depend on how wide he's opening up and how he's playing 4th-7th. I air on the side of tightness here and then look for opportunities to open it up.
Very happy to see a new mixed game series! Can we still expect to get a version with better audio quality, though?
Very happy to see a new mixed game series! Can we still expect to get a version with better audio quality, though?
DJ and I have joined forces and this will no longer be episode 1. We are going to be covering all 8 games of the "8 game" on stars. The series will still be called best of 7.
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