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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Deepsquat (High Stakes)

Just rewatched the video and i wasnt 100% happy with my explanation of a few concepts, apologies guys if i was rambling a bit.

In particular the J9o hand at about 40min mark.

What i was meaning to say was, had the positions been different in say a 4 handed game for instance where CO had opened and BTN 3bet and I call in BB. Given the same flop action it is somewhat common and sometimes arguably good for BTN to raise the turn with hands as light as good Ax as a fsd/protection/shut BB out of the pot vs SB's flush draw raise.

So basically be very careful not to fold too light in that spot vs some opponents, and maybe look for opportunities where you can exploit this situation if you are BTN

Anyways, lemme know if that still doesnt make sense or any other hands.

tyty

I don't know if this has been discussed somewhere, but what's the reasoning behind having a "no 3! HU at BB" strategy in a 3+ handed game but 3!ing BB when it's 2 players to start with? Is it because of the wider range of BTN open HU so there's more hands that can profitably 3! and no need for hiding any information?

I actually advocated in Episode 1 not having a 3b range in BB when UTG opened, SB called and we were in BB. Most people didnt like it so I scrapped it. Main reason was the fact that UTG will have such narrow range and we show so much strength with a pf 3b.

I think generally we miss out on too much value vs obviously weak ranges by just calling though. If there is a coldcaller i think there comes a time where we need to take the extra bets preflop.

Also as the pot gets multiway, we arent guaranteed a cbet from the opener like we would HU.

I know those who advocated the "no3b HU" idea based it largely on the fact that you are guaranteed a cbet postflop, so we dont miss out on any bets, we can select which flops to cr and we disguise our range.

The need to disguise our range is less important mw too

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On the left-hand table I thought that when the turn card paired the lowest card on the board this might be a good spot to check-raise semi-bluff? You've probably got a lot of bottom pairs in your k/c range so this might be a good *scare* card to try and semi-bluff on.

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I like your fastplay here as from a combo standpoint his most likely hand is 2x which might get scared to bet on a number of turn cards.

I messed up my original question. I didn't mean the difference between HU and multiway pots, but HU vs HUHU:
-you seem to call/fold on BB even against a button steal when sb folds
-but you 3!/call/fold from BB when only two players started the hands (i.e. HUHU or as in this video, only 2 players at the table).

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Interesting spot where the bd flush comes in on the river and you are check-raised holding top set. Without looking at results I would guess this one depends entirely on what sort of frequency you think your opponent semi-bluffs a turned flush-draw. I can think of a lot of over-aggro people this would be a 3-bet against.

On the left-hand table I thought that when the turn card paired the lowest card on the board this might be a good spot to check-raise semi-bluff? You've probably got a lot of bottom pairs in your k/c range so this might be a good *scare* card to try and semi-bluff on.

I think i need to cr this turn. We have no SD value and you correctly pointed out that we can rep 3x pretty well. Its always horribly when river goes chk/chk and he wins with Q high. We may also have some FE on certain river cards like 8,9,Tx when we cr and barrel

Interesting spot where the bd flush comes in on the river and you are check-raised holding top set. Without looking at results I would guess this one depends entirely on what sort of frequency you think your opponent semi-bluffs a turned flush-draw. I can think of a lot of over-aggro people this would be a 3-bet against.

Id have to do some combos to work out how many worse value hands he can have. The reason I didnt 3bet is because he was unknown and i therefore tend to assume he either has JJ or a flush. I also feel i can probably rep the flush more than he can,given the action, so it seems unusual for him to play an overpair like this + the fact that QJ is obviously heavily discounted. Would you be 3b here vs unknown + what kind of worse hands do you think we see here?

Id have to do some combos to work out how many worse value hands he can have. The reason I didnt 3bet is because he was unknown and i therefore tend to assume he either has JJ or a flush. I also feel i can probably rep the flush more than he can,given the action, so it seems unusual for him to play an overpair like this + the fact that QJ is obviously heavily discounted. Would you be 3b here vs unknown + what kind of worse hands do you think we see here?

Worse hands are pretty much just hands that have hit a second pair. It's a hard spot to look at intuitively and some combo counting would be useful. One complication is that a lot of people might only k/c the ace-high fd on turn in which case you're always getting capped when you are behind.

I messed up my original question. I didn't mean the difference between HU and multiway pots, but HU vs HUHU:
-you seem to call/fold on BB even against a button steal when sb folds
-but you 3!/call/fold from BB when only two players started the hands (i.e. HUHU or as in this video, only 2 players at the table).

I think i get you now

Firstly, im not necessarily against a call or fold only strat in BB in HUHU. Its especially good vs players who

1) cbet close to 100% of flops
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2) Play particularly well in position in 3b pots

In this case you can keep the pot smaller oop and cr a wider range/rep a wider value range on the flop.

Obviously if villain is checking back alot of flops it becomes a disaster as we miss out on so much value with our big hands.

Regarding HUHU vs 6max, i generally feel that because we cant 3bet a particularly wide range from BB vs BTN steal, then perhaps its easier/better to not 3b at all. In HUHU obviously villain is prob opening 90% so we can 3b wider preflop and it wont cost us too much postlfop.

This isnt always the case vs 45% BTN open range.

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On the right, not sure I'm in love with our turn barrel. Board hits a limper's range pretty well and I don't think we get very many folds at all once villain peels this flop. We have some showdown value and getting reraised puts us in a gross spot. How do you feel about a Ch/Call, Ch/Decide line?

On the right, not sure I'm in love with our turn barrel. Board hits a limper's range pretty well and I don't think we get very many folds at all once villain peels this flop. We have some showdown value and getting reraised puts us in a gross spot. How do you feel about a Ch/Call, Ch/Decide line?

Def think a c/c is better. Prob c/c, c/f i think

just finished the series again -- really enjoyed it and there's a lot of good balance stuff in here. thanks deepsquat!

ps. I struggle a bit as well when two-tabling HU. as tempting as it is to play both, i usually just close one of the tables unless both guys are really bad and/or i have a really good handle on how they play and can sort of auto-pilot

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Not sure I agree with delay raising to the river with this particular hand on this type of board texture because if villain bet's this river, I'm not even sure we have enough equity to reraise. What do you think is the worst hand villain will value bet on this river?

I think I like the play more with a AT/A7 type of hand as we're now doing slightly better against his value bet range on the river.

Not sure I agree with delay raising to the river with this particular hand on this type of board texture because if villain bet's this river, I'm not even sure we have enough equity to reraise. What do you think is the worst hand villain will value bet on this river?

I think I like the play more with a AT/A7 type of hand as we're now doing slightly better against his value bet range on the river.

Its definately a close spot for sure. I think he should 100% be betting 55+, and maybe some good 4x if he decides to not c/c the turn with them.

Its not something ive seen discussed anywhere, and im not sure i do it vs very creative/good players or maniacal idiots, but i know alot of reg fish that are almost never b/f anything they bet for value in BVB and absolutely never b/f 8x or 9x under any circumstance.

Saying that, i prefer doing this on a board where the turn is either static OR where i was going to raise the turn but it came drawy and pair/combo draws may 3b and i dont want heaps of action and the riv then bricks.

Thats where delaying with trips on static boards and also with our bluffs is good too.

Im happy to just call down on this board or alternatively just raise the flop. I dont like delaying till turn with this particular hand.

A7 would certainly be a better candidate, I agree. AT could be perfect for a turn raise imo. Whereby AK/AQ are perfect to raise flop

ps. I struggle a bit as well when two-tabling HU. as tempting as it is to play both, i usually just close one of the tables unless both guys are really bad and/or i have a really good handle on how they play and can sort of auto-pilot

I think I can handle 2 tables of HUHU unless one is tricky and I need to see some HH's/SD's to work out what hes doing. If they are both regfish or bad i feel ok about it

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on left table we're calling flop with Ahi wk cuz we have back doors, but when one of our backdoors improves on turn we fold? :confused: