Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Deepsquat (High Stakes)

Time Link to 00:03:41

Hi Deepsquat. I notice that you 3-bet the HJ open from the CO with A9o on the right table.

Did you have a read that the CO was opening wide, or was this a standard pf 3-bet for you ?

Time Link to 00:04:31

On the left table, the same player as in the above hand limps in the HJ and you call the BTN's raise with K4o in the BB.

Are you usually defending with any Kx in the BB against a late position open, or calling here because of the increased odds you are receiving with the limper in the hand ?

Time Link to 00:23:11

On the left table, CO opens, SB 3-bets and you call with ATs in the BB.

Your call seems reasonable to me as CO could have a wide range and you are getting ok odds for a good hand with decent playability 3 way.

What would be some of the hands in the bottom part of your calling range in this situation ?

Time Link to 00:42:11

You defend ATo in the BB against the SB on the left table and raise SB's c-bet on an AK5r flop.

You suggest that calling the flop bet with the intention of raising the turn would also be an ok alternative.

Would calling the flop and a safe turn with the intention of raising the river also be a reasonable line to take ?

Time Link to 00:49:16

You 3-bet J7s on the BTN after the CO opens on the left hand table.

This seems like a very wide pf 3-bet to me. So, did you have some kind of read on the CO to be 3-betting here, or is J7s in your standard range for this situation ?

Time Link to 00:56:15

You cold call with the K4s in the BTN on the right table.

Am I correct that you are doing this because the weak player to your right also cold called before you ? I think that this is the 1st time that I have seen you cold call in your videos !

Hi Deepsquat. I notice that you 3-bet the HJ open from the CO with A9o on the right table.

Did you have a read that the CO was opening wide, or was this a standard pf 3-bet for you ?

Hey fantam,

A9o will bet the bottom of my range for 3betting in this spot. I think ATo is an easy 3bet vs probably anyone.

From memory my read at the time was that he was weak/fishy and feel that I can play this hand profitably against his range IP.

I wouldnt blame anyone for folding it but I think it should be a 3b in general

On the left table, the same player as in the above hand limps in the HJ and you call the BTN's raise with K4o in the BB.

Are you usually defending with any Kx in the BB against a late position open, or calling here because of the increased odds you are receiving with the limper in the hand ?

I think we can almost defend any 2 in this spot due to the increased odds we are getting and the weak players in the pot. You should try and find reasons to enter a pot with weak player(s) involved.

On the left table, CO opens, SB 3-bets and you call with ATs in the BB.

Your call seems reasonable to me as CO could have a wide range and you are getting ok odds for a good hand with decent playability 3 way.

What would be some of the hands in the bottom part of your calling range in this situation ?

I this spot i think we can play reasonably loose given the ranges. The important factor to note is that SB 3bet pf, not BTN. This means postflop we can potentially raise the CO out of the pot when SB cbets and we then have position postflop. So in this spot we can probably play more hands profitably seeing as we have a potential opportunity to buy position postflop.

Obviously SB will probably have a tighter pf 3betting range than BTN so its hard to quantify the advantage.

This spot is also dependant on how much we think CO will cap pf. If he caps wide pf i may tighten up, but vs unknowns as a rough guide i prob play

A5s+, ATo+
KJo+ K9s+
22+
98s+
QJo+

Thats a rough guide, its ahrd to nail down an exact range. The worse the players, the more hands we can play imo

You defend ATo in the BB against the SB on the left table and raise SB's c-bet on an AK5r flop.

You suggest that calling the flop bet with the intention of raising the turn would also be an ok alternative.

Would calling the flop and a safe turn with the intention of raising the river also be a reasonable line to take ?

Ya it would be, but probably with a weaker Ax that doesnt want alot of action. Maybe something like A2 but usually id raise.

It can be a good way to protect the weaker part of our calldown range and also we often wont get 3bet by better Ax when we raise the riv, but generally i raise the flop in these spots.

We also get a spazz out factor when we dont 3bet pf and raise Axx flop

You 3-bet J7s on the BTN after the CO opens on the left hand table.

This seems like a very wide pf 3-bet to me. So, did you have some kind of read on the CO to be 3-betting here, or is J7s in your standard range for this situation ?

He was pretty laggy and i think its def bottom of the range.
He actually plays pretty well postflop so vs him u can maybe fold.

I think we can get away with 3betting pretty wide on the button as its very hard to play against, think about how much u hate being on the right of some guy 3betting heaps and playing well post.

The added benefit is that CO tightens up, which allows you to steal more blinds

You cold call with the K4s in the BTN on the right table.

Am I correct that you are doing this because the weak player to your right also cold called before you ? I think that this is the 1st time that I have seen you cold call in your videos !

Yeah i think its a great spot to coldcall with good suited stuff. We dont get a good opportunity to do it very often

We have a massive fish on our right, a weakish player opening and a loose/bad player in SB who is likely to come along, i think its a definate with all your suited Ax hands fwiw

I think most tags are too tight here too in position

Time Link to 00:07:15

You're discussing about having a checkraise range with this board. I certainly don't mind doing it as an exploitive bluff here but I have real hard time figuring out enough value checkraises on this paired board. An Ace in my hand would really hate a 3!, a Ten or better would rather try to 3!. Also people can check back turns here to a donk check as 90%+ of their peel range (i.e anything else but wheel draw and maybe some weird backdoor FDs) has some showdown value (that would often call down 3 barrels).

Any ideas on that?

Hey pasita,

I think AK could be good just off the top of my head. I think its fine to have some good Ax hands in our turn cr range here. Obviously ranges are still wide in BVB so he will have all his pocket pairs that may bet, worse Ax, 4x, garbage etc.

AK is good as it gives him slightly less Kx combos that he may chk back as bluffcatchers on the turn

I think having some Tx hands vs certain opponents is fine too because its not like A3 or something is always raising the turn here, i mean i wouldnt be raising my weak Ax hands too often on the turn once ive called this flop, so we may benefit from cr them on the turn.

Its a board texture we will have to check a huge portion of our range, pretty much any made hands that are worse than Ax and alot of our broadway draws like QJ/KQ etc id be checking. So as a result, i will generally have a slightly wider value cr range as to not always be so weak and be vbet to death

Thoughts?

Time Link to 00:07:15

Hmm. If you hold AK on that turn, villain will have top pair some 20% of the time, some other pair a bit more, high card (K high or GS) about 40% of the time and trips or better 18%+ time. (This assuming that he would call all of his range on the flop, and would have 3!d his best aces and pocket pairs preflop - moving these assumptions around will obv yeald different numbers).

So SB certainly has the equity to put in a CR (80%), but still not sure whether it's the best play EV wise, considering that BB has to actually bet his hand first, and then call down the river for the CR to pay off.

Man this stuff really gets under my skin (and over my head) when starting to talk about constructing optimal donkCR lines. Maybe after my ventures in the big bet games I'm trapped into a too passive / straight forward mindset on these static turns.

BTW if you're worried about getting value bet to death, shouldn't you be thinking about check calling turns and check raising rivers too?

Ya i mean we are generally betting this turn most of the time with AK/good hands + our weak draws but i feel we do need to have a checking range that can do all 3 actions (fold, call, raise)

Some board textures can be harder to choose a certain range to do a certain action than others and yeah, it is complicated.

The purpose of the series from my point of view was to plant the seeds for you guys to have a think about balance. Not all the in-play examples were perfect, thats why i did a hand construction section.

So regarding this hand, lets reverse it a bit. If we are betting all our Ax and Tx (not sure if you guys bet KK here) are there enough combos in his range that will call? What does our checking range look like?
What are the pros & cons in future by choosing to only ever chk/call or chk/fold on AT4T? Does cr the turn gain us anything in future vbv spots? (I know GTO doesnt take into account future hands/benefits)

All these things need to be considered imo. I know that betting QJ/KQ/KJ etc and getting raised is gross, same with our PP's, so we do have to have a checking range on the turn. Obviously we dont want it to be only c/c and c/f, so what do we cr?

I think Tx can be ok, so can good Ax hands and some hands like i had in the video, but its really hard to say whats categorically correct. Its more an example to get you thinking and create discussion

I think its extremely hard to create a balanced turn chk/call, river chk/r line + you arent going to get the same opportunities on the riv that u will on the turn because alot of people will be 4x on the turn and then chk back riv

The purpose of the series from my point of view was to plant the seeds for you guys to have a think about balance.

Job well done.

Time Link to 00:17:55

On the right, you value bet 99 here on the river and I'm not really sure I agree. Just doing some quick stoves, there's no way you have the 50%+ equity (mine came out between 25-35% depending on how much of his range he will slow play). So, the only reason I can see a justification for this bet is if its one of those rare situations where villain will never bluff raise us if we bet, but if we check he may bluff or bet worse with a range that's wide enough that we need to call, but worse than if we had just bet ourselves? Hope that last part came out clear.

Hey slide,

Villain is ultra passive, a rare breed. Just looking up his stats now he's 75/0.8/0.35 over 540 hands. I wasnt using a HUD at the time but had played with him a fair bit. Games at mid stakes generally run around him and 1 or 2 other guys at ipoker.

He will absolutely never ever bluff raise us, nor bluff bet if we check but he will call down with any pair. I dont know if he peels a hand like KQ or not, i cant say for sure, but if he did id be confident he would call river with it if he gets there.

This riv is either a bet or a c/f vs him, i think i like a bet more. If hes peeling KQ/KJ etc then i think its an easy bet, if he only has pairs then its probably a c/f as he wont bet 88 for value on the riv.

Against a different type of fish i would need a clearer read. I can see merits in checking the turn vs some, it really depends on what they are going to do. The more aggro they are, the more likely i am to chk turn. The more passive, the more this becomes a bet/bet/bet and fold to aggression.

I dont play much live poker, but this would be your equivalent of a typical live passive fish, just keep vbetting until you meet aggression.

But yeah, the best play will come down to our assumptions i suppose, im guessing if we stove 22/44/66/77/88/KQ/KJ then its closer to a bet? I havent got time right now but ill look into it over the wkend

But yeah, the best play will come down to our assumptions i suppose, im guessing if we stove 22/44/66/77/88/KQ/KJ then its closer to a bet? I havent got time right now but ill look into it over the wkend

Even using this range vs A9-A4,A2,KK-JJ (hands we are behind) we have less than 40% equity. If we start to add in some AJ/AQ, KTs, or slowplays to the river it gets much worse.

Seems like a pretty easy river Ch/Fold if he is never bluffing or betting worse.

Even using this range vs A9-A4,A2,KK-JJ (hands we are behind) we have less than 40% equity. If we start to add in some AJ/AQ, KTs, or slowplays to the river it gets much worse.

Seems like a pretty easy river Ch/Fold if he is never bluffing or betting worse.

Ya, sounds like a c/f then, thanks for stoving that.

c/f is a very under utilised play in LHE imo. Nice one mate

Time Link to 00:27:28

This peel seems pretty poor. Our only draw is to 2nd pair, which is often not even good, and his draws usually have a ton of equity against our hand. We'll also be facing a turn barrel often and river barrel fairly often. Here's a stove to illustrate my point, depending on his range, we're not even getting correct immediate odds to peel.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 14.889% 14.39% 00.50% 13958 487.50 { QdJd }
Hand 1: 85.111% 84.61% 00.50% 82087 487.50 { 77, ATs-A6s, A3s, Kc9c, Kc8c, Kc7c, Kc6c, Kc5c, QcJc, QcTc, Qc9c, Qc8c, Qc7c, JcTc, Jc9c, Jc8c, Jc7c, Tc9c, Tc8c, Tc7c, 9c8c, 9c7c, 8c7c, 8c6c, 7c6c, 7c5c, 64s+, 54s, 4c3c, ATo-A6o }

Time Link to 00:48:38

Should we discuss villain's open fold strategy here? haha

ya QJ is def a fold. Its actually become a them in this series.
Pyschobingo pointed out a similar KT peel on a similar board vs Tpirahna in another video. Just a bad habit, thanks for pointing it out.

There has some been some interesting thread(s) discussing how cr these flops can be super proiftable given how small a % of our range we should fold.

The peel as an UTG is poor seeing as BB should play alot tighter vs our range.

Fwiw, i wasnt happy with my overall play this series. Wont bore people with any excuses, just sloppy play in some spots.

Lol @ open fold!