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Ghost: KRANTZ (#1) 4-tabling 200 NL by KRANTZ

KRANTZ 4 tables 200 NL and discusses how he attacks these games.

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  • 42 minutes long
  • Posted almost 4 years ago

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dw33p

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I dont know if you still use a windows computer but is it possible to stop using this screenflow crap on a mac? The video is verry blurry on the parts where ftp adds animation to the tables. For the rest, nice vid!

Posted almost 4 years ago

ThatDeviant

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Time Link to 00:02:15

2:21 - 78s

I'm guessing your decision was based on the shortstack behind you (not wanting to get squeezed maybe?), but do you still think there is perhaps more merit to calling 78s here in position rather than 3betting? We don't have any reads that he's calling 3bets OOP and he seems to be a TAG regular who is probably going to 4bet/fold in this spot, which sucks for us because we have to fold a hand with nice equity (or miss a chance to embarrass him in position).

Fantastic video, would be interested to hear your thoughts.

Posted almost 4 years ago

neekola

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KRANTZ, very nice vid. I was happy to see you play at these kind of stakes and more "normally" (if you know what i mean), because it's then easier for us to apply it to our own "normal" game. Thanks.

Posted almost 4 years ago

NoWayFolding

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Krantz,

You are going ot hate me for saying this but your HU videos are 5x more educational than your 6max ones!

Your 6max ones are good, but your HU ones you provide so many decent reads and so many cool spots, and you provide so much more informtaion as to why you make your decision. You give a indepth psychology aswell, which creates dynamic and provides a really cool framework to a more exciting, interesting and thought provoking video.

IMO others should do 6max and you should stick to high limit HUNL.
They are the best Grin

Hopefully we get to see 6max from others and more HU from you, just because you are so talented HU.

Posted almost 4 years ago

drsmooth

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Only about half-way through but I thought it was a little strange to have 'auto-fold' clicked with A3 otb when there'd been no action, but auto-folding Q9 on the button when no one has opened?

Posted almost 4 years ago

Caporegime

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PureEnergy8

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I'd like to see you play those stakes for like for 2 hours,and not 40mins when running godlike. (This is not criticism,as i know you cant help it). Your 6max videos are awsome!
And it was good to see you at these stakes.
But i have to agree with No Way Folding,your Hu vids are GOLDEN!!!!

Posted almost 4 years ago

chinz

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I really hate you guys...

I gotta wake up early in the morning and I was about to check my webmail and then go to sleep. Then I accidentially see the DC frontpage and notice this video and the new Parallels season starting.

It's your fault if I skip the univ tomorrow. Frown

Posted almost 4 years ago

Trillos

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Nice video.

It seems a bit too blurry, especially considering the size.

Posted almost 4 years ago

kondor101

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I am going to watch this for a 2nd time. Thanks for making this one krantz it is great to see you teaching the guys at NL200 (who are one day going to be teaching the rest of us I hope).

Posted almost 4 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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Time Link to 00:19:17

"If this guy is a squeezer, I would call. Ya know what, let's try it."

BB snapfolds haha.

Posted almost 4 years ago

bibi94

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hey krantz, this vid is the nutz!

What do you think are the most common leaks from regs at this level?

Posted almost 4 years ago

gsolis31

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Time Link to 00:25:00

KRANTZ, great vid.

can you comment more on why you're not c/r this flop against a btn open? is it simply b/c you are way too ahead too often on this flop? what are you doing if a blank falls on the turn?

Posted almost 4 years ago

danndann1

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Krantz,

You are going ot hate me for saying this but your HU videos are 5x more educational than your 6max ones!

Your 6max ones are good, but your HU ones you provide so many decent reads and so many cool spots, and you provide so much more informtaion as to why you make your decision. You give a indepth psychology aswell, which creates dynamic and provides a really cool framework to a more exciting, interesting and thought provoking video.

IMO others should do 6max and you should stick to high limit HUNL.
They are the best Grin

Hopefully we get to see 6max from others and more HU from you, just because you are so talented HU.



def true.
pls more HUNL from Krantz!!!!

Posted almost 4 years ago

Tonto

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IMO others should do 6max and you should stick to high limit HUNL.
They are the best Grin



Strongly disagree- great poker is great poker


Krantz,

You seemed to be willing to felt AK pre no matter what (cold 5bt-call for example). What would be the conditions where this would not be true anymore and why? Maybe 1-2 is the cutoff where there are preflop spewmonkeys (like in this vid), but, say, at .50-1 people are usually not going to felt AQ- preflop; does this mean you need to fold AK sometimes to heavy action? How about vs opps who have a 3bt% of, say, 4-6%? 3bt-folding seems nitty but if your opps arent messing around arent you just leaking money slowly getting it AI pre vs a range thats 55+% vs AK (even including the dead money)? Does calling 3bts/4bts with AK vs tighter players have any merit?

Sorry for the lengthy post, but very interested in what you have to say.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Onraad

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IMO others should do 6max and you should stick to high limit HUNL.
They are the best Grin



Strongly disagree- great poker is great poker



It's a matter of frequency. If KRANTZ were to make 2 videos a week I wouldn't mind one of them being a 6max video. But since he makes probably one video every 2 weeks all heads-up players would obviously like this to be a heads-up video Smile

Posted almost 4 years ago

Poemmel

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needfinesse

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Time Link to 00:35:12

Impressive, you know he is not 4betting light. "Especially with the timing"

How does a 4bet bluff time?

Good video. Playing and not thinking about the money is HUGE. You put fear in them, great example is the a7 hand, against a regular dude, he'd be valuebetting that.

Posted almost 4 years ago

nakke

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Awesome, more nl200 content! But don't show it to my opponents Frown

Posted almost 4 years ago

StnBuddha70

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Thanks for the video. Even someone - like me - who plays in the nursery stakes found it very informative and loaded with ideas to mull over.

Please come back down again.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Rasputin

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Time Link to 00:24:33

This JT hand where you call the button three bet and check raise the KQx flop I have some questions.

What's the plan if you don't hit a decent draw?

What about a simple top pair. Do you check raise the flop or does it depend on how aggro he is. Seems to me a check raise would put some players off hands that they'd continue to bluff with.

And what if you whiff completely? Do you check raise some there just because you know his three betting range and c-betting range are very large?

Basically I guess I'm asking what you're thinking if you don't hit either a good draw or a monster.

Posted almost 4 years ago

oh hai

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Time Link to 00:07:06

Cryptic hints = DANI?!?!?! (crosses fingers)

Thanks for the video Krantz-- you are right some uNL players watch these vids too Smile

Posted almost 4 years ago

Eisflamme

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If his HU-vids are 5 times better than his SH-vids, I should definitely switch to HU, so that looking those vids makes sense.

Posted almost 4 years ago

rocketragz

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This was a good video. Not many vids have me wanting to watch it again for value when I'm not even through watching it the first time.

Would be sweet if we could get another one out of yoU!

Posted almost 4 years ago

UKFAN1687

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Cryptic hints = DANI?!?!?! (crosses fingers)

Thanks for the video Krantz-- you are right some uNL players watch these vids too Smile



Ansky or Flawless?

I would put my money on Ansky...

Posted almost 4 years ago

shark_fishin

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Thnx for playing 200nl one time krantz.
Why do you bet $10 into $14.25 on 633r flop?
Iv seen you bet half pot before on a similar board, did you change your sizing recently? and for what reason?

Do you think its ok to have a different cbet size for the same flop but a different opening possition? like UTG $14 into $15 and BTN $8 into $15 on a 245ss flop for example?

Posted almost 4 years ago

Barrin6

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Time Link to 00:19:41

Timing tell with those aces there buddy. Slow down.

Posted almost 4 years ago

KRANTZ

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2:21 - 78s

I'm guessing your decision was based on the shortstack behind you (not wanting to get squeezed maybe?), but do you still think there is perhaps more merit to calling 78s here in position rather than 3betting? We don't have any reads that he's calling 3bets OOP and he seems to be a TAG regular who is probably going to 4bet/fold in this spot, which sucks for us because we have to fold a hand with nice equity (or miss a chance to embarrass him in position).

Fantastic video, would be interested to hear your thoughts.



Sure, there's a lot to be said for keeping 78s out of your 3-bet range on the button here... I might agree with you in hindsight that I just really have no reason to believe he might call and then I just lose any implied odds.

Posted almost 4 years ago

KRANTZ

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Timing tell with those aces there buddy. Slow down.



not a timing tell

Posted almost 4 years ago

KRANTZ

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Thnx for playing 200nl one time krantz.
Why do you bet $10 into $14.25 on 633r flop?
Iv seen you bet half pot before on a similar board, did you change your sizing recently? and for what reason?

Do you think its ok to have a different cbet size for the same flop but a different opening possition? like UTG $14 into $15 and BTN $8 into $15 on a 245ss flop for example?



If I'm betting half pot it's a reraised pot or because of stack sizes.

Posted almost 4 years ago

KRANTZ

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Only about half-way through but I thought it was a little strange to have 'auto-fold' clicked with A3 otb when there'd been no action, but auto-folding Q9 on the button when no one has opened?



distracted probably, this is a mistake

Posted almost 4 years ago

KRANTZ

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"If this guy is a squeezer, I would call. Ya know what, let's try it."

BB snapfolds haha.



YEAH YEAH YEAH

Posted almost 4 years ago

SnappieVouz

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I am confused, you advocate not to raise 23s from the CO and you call it a loose open?
where you kidding or was this serious? Smile

Great vid, learned a lot, timing tells is something I am terrible at, I do a lot of insta-stuff

Posted almost 4 years ago

dispatch3d

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krantz post a video where you run mediocre. otherwise people get pissed!

Posted almost 4 years ago

malfaire

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Time Link to 00:33:06

"he has to have AA or AK and i don't think AK is going to make the small 4bet"

are you putting less aces in his range given the fact that he's likely not going to 4bet bluff AQ/AJ in the same manner as well? I feel like he's often going to be 4betting a strong hand in that manner

you comment on the fact that his 4betting range includes few bluffs, and therefore you don't have FE on the flop as his range smacks that / is nutted. what hands are we happy calling against in that spot if he has less 4bet bluffs in that spot / hands that 4bet for value & missed that flop (none?). i feel calling a 4bet IP is likely atrocious if we're not happy with hitting TP, but this spot grosses me out. we call to improve, but if our T sucks, it just doesn't seem like we have a lot of cards to improve with (5 clean outs...?)

any reason why you're not simply shoving the turn? do you figure that he could simply look you up lighter than on the river? you probably have a ton more aces in your range than he does -- another good reason to bluff the river?

i mess up these spots all the time, so i just tried to give my thought process behind the hand. nice vid Smile

Posted almost 4 years ago

Barrin6

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You still haven't justified your JTss out of position call. This still seems way loose of a call. You aren't going to be blessed with many flops where you can just check/shove here.

Posted almost 4 years ago

ste667

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How can the file size be so big and the quality so bad??

Great content as alwasys tho Smile

Posted almost 4 years ago

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Just started watching the video and at about the 3-minute mark it stopped, and when I reload the page it no longer shows the video but instead has a message "We're sorry, this video no longer exists! Try the Videos page for more videos". I've tried reloading it a few times, logged out and back in, etc. and it just shows that same message every time now. I'm downloading the WMV now, hopefully that will work. Not sure what happened though.

Posted almost 4 years ago

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Just started watching the video and at about the 3-minute mark it stopped, and when I reload the page it no longer shows the video but instead has a message "We're sorry, this video no longer exists! Try the Videos page for more videos". I've tried reloading it a few times, logged out and back in, etc. and it just shows that same message every time now. I'm downloading the WMV now, hopefully that will work. Not sure what happened though.



And as soon as I posted this, now the video is back...

Posted almost 4 years ago

mogwai316

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Good vid, nice to see one where you're playing non-deep tables and not going too crazy. It's great when you ramble on about stuff in between hands and we get to hear how you think about approaching the games.

Do you think it's worth spending time doing post-game analysis of specific regs that you play against a lot (for 200nl players)? Specifically trying to find their bet sizing tells and things like that. If you were a regular in these games, how much time would you spend on stuff like that as compared to time spent playing, watching vids, etc.

Posted almost 4 years ago

KRANTZ

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hey, will get to everyone's questions at the end of the week/this weekend, am crazy busy traveling right now

and don't worry ppl i will keep making HU vids, it's my favorite form of poker!

Posted almost 4 years ago

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OK this question is retarded but you brought up handles and I'm going to start an FT account soon so....

I have been going back and forth between the idea of a "fear inducing" name and also playing under the persona of a woman. Barry Greenstein talks about (I believe Whitelime or one of the 2m2m guys did too) how people don't give credit to women being able to make moves.
Throwing other ideas around too: there is a dude at pstars who plays under "its a tarp!" and he is just a standard TAG but I think there is something to be said for subliminally sending that message constantly.

I realize this is like 1/1000th as important as actual strategy but would you care to share any thoughts on the matter?

Posted almost 4 years ago

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Strongly disagree- great poker is great poker


Krantz,

You seemed to be willing to felt AK pre no matter what (cold 5bt-call for example). What would be the conditions where this would not be true anymore and why? Maybe 1-2 is the cutoff where there are preflop spewmonkeys (like in this vid), but, say, at .50-1 people are usually not going to felt AQ- preflop; does this mean you need to fold AK sometimes to heavy action? How about vs opps who have a 3bt% of, say, 4-6%? 3bt-folding seems nitty but if your opps arent messing around arent you just leaking money slowly getting it AI pre vs a range thats 55+% vs AK (even including the dead money)? Does calling 3bts/4bts with AK vs tighter players have any merit?

Sorry for the lengthy post, but very interested in what you have to say.



yes, if you're getting it in consistently vs a range that's 55%+ vs AK, then you're burning money. the problem is that there are very few conditions in which you're getting it in against a range that bad. it'd have to be against an insanely nitty player who you already have rock solid notes on (like ALWAYS min 5-bets AA and only AA) over thousands of hands.

Posted almost 4 years ago

KRANTZ

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You still haven't justified your JTss out of position call. This still seems way loose of a call. You aren't going to be blessed with many flops where you can just check/shove here.



I didn't justify it because no one asked me.

If you're not calling JTss, then you're probably not calling much of anything here, which is sub-optimal against many players (the kind you can't 4-bet your huge hands againt or the kind where you'll want to be playing KQo against when 3-bet).

You don't need to see a flop that necessarily crushes your hand to win the pot. Sometimes you'll hit a piece which will win at showdown when you put in one or two bets, sometimes you'll be able to lead out and win the pot. Sometimes you will lose the pot.

You can play around with some ranges (change them depending on the player 3-betting you) here to figure out how close preflop is... postflop OOP is always going to be tough but against weaker players (I don't mean passive, I mean aggro but weak) if you can correctly guess their preflop range it becomes easier to win postflop and make sure you're not exploitable.

Posted almost 4 years ago

KRANTZ

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Good vid, nice to see one where you're playing non-deep tables and not going too crazy. It's great when you ramble on about stuff in between hands and we get to hear how you think about approaching the games.

Do you think it's worth spending time doing post-game analysis of specific regs that you play against a lot (for 200nl players)? Specifically trying to find their bet sizing tells and things like that. If you were a regular in these games, how much time would you spend on stuff like that as compared to time spent playing, watching vids, etc.



I would spend time. How much time? More time than they do.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Kidtampa415

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1st great video. 2nd. What mod is used to get the tables to light up when action is on you. I like how it has the traffic light look to it. Where can I get it? Searched around but was not successful. Thanks again and keep up the great work.

Posted almost 4 years ago

Kidtampa415

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1st great video. 2nd. What mod is used to get the tables to light up when action is on you. I like how it has the traffic light look to it. Where can I get it? Searched around but was not successful. Thanks again and keep up the great work.



Nevermind I see they are Mac mods.

Posted over 3 years ago

aetherxyz

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at 9:06 when you cold 4bet AJo, why make it $72 and not something less like $60? Is it because you're a bit deeper so you don't want him to flat? 72 just seemed kind of huge

Posted over 3 years ago

beztro

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"he has to have AA or AK and i don't think AK is going to make the small 4bet"

are you putting less aces in his range given the fact that he's likely not going to 4bet bluff AQ/AJ in the same manner as well? I feel like he's often going to be 4betting a strong hand in that manner

you comment on the fact that his 4betting range includes few bluffs, and therefore you don't have FE on the flop as his range smacks that / is nutted. what hands are we happy calling against in that spot if he has less 4bet bluffs in that spot / hands that 4bet for value & missed that flop (none?). i feel calling a 4bet IP is likely atrocious if we're not happy with hitting TP, but this spot grosses me out. we call to improve, but if our T sucks, it just doesn't seem like we have a lot of cards to improve with (5 clean outs...?)

any reason why you're not simply shoving the turn? do you figure that he could simply look you up lighter than on the river? you probably have a ton more aces in your range than he does -- another good reason to bluff the river?

i mess up these spots all the time, so i just tried to give my thought process behind the hand. nice vid Smile



I'm also interested in hearing krantz talk about this hand some more. Why can't he have AQ/AJ here, or an ace rag 4bet bluff?

Posted over 3 years ago

KRANTZ

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I'm also interested in hearing krantz talk about this hand some more. Why can't he have AQ/AJ here, or an ace rag 4bet bluff?



Not the kind of player who plays like that with those hands preflop.

The reason I don't shove the turn is because my hand has some absolute value + I pick up more information on the river based on his action.

Posted over 3 years ago

slacker

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im really disappointed by the no move of honor

Posted over 3 years ago

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informative vid. crappy vid. quality

Thanks Krantz and I would really appreciate if you found any time to make comments on some of my notes.

00:38:42 on 03/05/10: 38 min. the 65cc hand. I always like shoving these spots because I was thinking there was alot of FE. He is probably doubling the turn with hands he is folding to a shove. Like a Q. Also making a better FD fold would be real good.
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00:30:45 on 03/05/10: you 3bet UTG PFR w TT get called and half pot cbet 553dd. How are we playing to a raise?


00:21:33 on 03/05/10: 21 min A9 on 987cc It seems like we get value from draws and our equity is good enough to double the turn.


00:15:04 on 03/05/10: 15 min. we flop boat and put him on a float. are we worried about balance? why are we betting turn? He won't be checking back much on turn likely.


00:00:21 on 03/05/10:why 3x on the cold 4bet? I would think that a 2.5x 4bet would practically look just as strong. (the time got messed up its not 21 sec. in, but the only hand where you cold 4bet i believe)


00:05:19 on 03/05/10: 5 min The Pot cbet w air. Why do we need to define his hand so much? it would seem better to give ourselves a bit better odds and keep are range more balanced.

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