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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by FenderJaguar (Micro/Small Stakes)

Time Link to 00:28:28

How do you fell about Bet/Folding river with the J9 hand Blind vs Blind?

I like it because for the following reasons:

1. Villian is passiv, so he might check alot of 10s behind and even things like 99 or 77 which he might hero call with.
2. Since Villian is passiv i like the bet/fold line even more, since we are dictating the amount on river, and he is NEVER showing air. So i would bet around 65$ on river.

Sugeren

How do you fell about Bet/Folding river with the J9 hand Blind vs Blind?

I like it because for the following reasons:

1. Villian is passiv, so he might check alot of 10s behind and even things like 99 or 77 which he might hero call with.
2. Since Villian is passiv i like the bet/fold line even more, since we are dictating the amount on river, and he is NEVER showing air. So i would bet around 65$ on river.

Sugeren

exactly what i was thinking too.

he really doesn`t have too many better hands in his range but he`s got lots of bluffcatchers.
since he`s passive we usually can`t expect him to bluff so i think vbet low > c/call
he won`t ever bluff raise our riverbet i assume

Ive looked at the math on hand 1 with 77 - assuming BB calling range is AK , JJ+ and the utg folds, the BB sqzer would have to fold 50% for us to breakeven - JJ+ ,AK = 3% or 40 combos so we would want villain to have wider than 6% sqz range or more than 80 combos

If he decides to get in a bit lighter - TT + , AQ our equity improves so we would need less FE but if we decide to shove AQ vs JJ+ , AK we would need even more FE.

This is all without even looking at utg - if he is someone who will call the shove with 99 then i guess we are in worse shape

J9 river - pokerstove tells me its a value bet

How do you fell about Bet/Folding river with the J9 hand Blind vs Blind?

I like it because for the following reasons:

1. Villian is passiv, so he might check alot of 10s behind and even things like 99 or 77 which he might hero call with.
2. Since Villian is passiv i like the bet/fold line even more, since we are dictating the amount on river, and he is NEVER showing air. So i would bet around 65$ on river.

Sugeren

b/f looks close, but we don't have the correct equity to valuebet. his range for calling/raising (and I made him to be a calling station):

Board: Td 8d 4s 8c Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.226% 45.28% 00.94% 48 1.00 { Js9c }
Hand 1: 53.774% 52.83% 00.94% 56 1.00 { TT, 88, 44, AdJd, ATs, A8s, KdJd, KTs, K8s, QTs+, Qd9d, Q8s, J8s+, T7s+, 97s+, 86s+, ATo, A8o, KTo, QTo, JTo, T8o+, 98o, 87o }

If you just take a few Tx combos out of his range it becomes worse:

Board: Td 8d 4s 8c Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.785% 38.71% 01.08% 36 1.00 { Js9c }
Hand 1: 60.215% 59.14% 01.08% 55 1.00 { TT, 88, 44, AdJd, ATs, A8s, KdJd, KTs, K8s, QTs+, Q8s, J8s+, T8s, 97s+, 86s+, ATo, A8o, KTo, QTo, JTo, T8o, 98o, 87o }

So, because we can't valuebet the river, b/f doesn't really is an option for us.

You are right that if villain is passiv he will check back a lot of his Tx and he won't bluff us on the river. But the correct conclusion is that because we can't valuebet and he is never bluffing our only option is to c/f the river.

Great discussion on 88 hand ! would like to see more HH review

Great video, HH review is really the best format

b/f looks close, but we don't have the correct equity to valuebet. his range for calling/raising (and I made him to be a calling station):

Board: Td 8d 4s 8c Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.226% 45.28% 00.94% 48 1.00 { Js9c }
Hand 1: 53.774% 52.83% 00.94% 56 1.00 { TT, 88, 44, AdJd, ATs, A8s, KdJd, KTs, K8s, QTs+, Qd9d, Q8s, J8s+, T7s+, 97s+, 86s+, ATo, A8o, KTo, QTo, JTo, T8o+, 98o, 87o }

If you just take a few Tx combos out of his range it becomes worse:

Board: Td 8d 4s 8c Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.785% 38.71% 01.08% 36 1.00 { Js9c }
Hand 1: 60.215% 59.14% 01.08% 55 1.00 { TT, 88, 44, AdJd, ATs, A8s, KdJd, KTs, K8s, QTs+, Q8s, J8s+, T8s, 97s+, 86s+, ATo, A8o, KTo, QTo, JTo, T8o, 98o, 87o }

So, because we can't valuebet the river, b/f doesn't really is an option for us.

You are right that if villain is passiv he will check back a lot of his Tx and he won't bluff us on the river. But the correct conclusion is that because we can't valuebet and he is never bluffing our only option is to c/f the river.

I think a lot of 8x type hands will 3bet or fold preflop (dunno if he 3bet TT bvb). I expect him to fastplay set/trips some % of the time even if he's passive. Most of the draws missed so I think we will get called a lot here by Tx/99. I would only c/f if I have a read that he is really weak and passive.

Time Link to 00:43:24

I understand the point that you fold to a Js more than a Td, but if he knows a T is a bad card to barrel, then isn't it OK to fold to either the J or the T?

I understand the point that you fold to a Js more than a Td, but if he knows a T is a bad card to barrel, then isn't it OK to fold to either the J or the T?

What do you think him knowing a T is a bad card to barrel means for his thought process when the Js shows up?

Time Link to 00:15:20

What is this name? awesome!

Time Link to 00:18:03

What if he the guy with the weird name had raised you on the flop? I'm struggling a little bit with the right play in this scenario. Maybe we should just fold to a raise because there are some better diamond draws or Ax with an diamond, sets like 88, 44. Probably not TT, he may 3bet it preflop. Could you please tell me if my thought process is right?

What if he the guy with the weird name had raised you on the flop? I'm struggling a little bit with the right play in this scenario. Maybe we should just fold to a raise because there are some better diamond draws or Ax with an diamond, sets like 88, 44. Probably not TT, he may 3bet it preflop. Could you please tell me if my thought process is right?

yes you are right there. if he raises us on the flop we only have 6 clear outs against his range.but one other important thing we need to consider is that we play the hand OOP. if we were in position we could call (just to make it clear: I don't say we should!^^) and look what he does and maybe win the pot if he gives up, but OOP he can just 2nd/triple barrel with his bluff and we have to fold way to often.

Time Link to 00:33:31

What would be the worst pocket pair you would call here, TT?

Time Link to 01:00:07

I feel like the third barrel on the river seemed weak because what's your hand range when your doing that? I'd feel like it'd just be top pair, something like Ace 10, and an all in shove seemed perfect to get you off that hand.

I feel like the third barrel on the river seemed weak because what's your hand range when your doing that? I'd feel like it'd just be top pair, something like Ace 10, and an all in shove seemed perfect to get you off that hand.

Are you saying that 1. you think we can only have weak hands as hero 2. that we shouldn't value bet because we're going to have to fold to a shove 3. we shouldn't value bet because villain is going to shove knowing we're folding the only hands we can have (weak) in his eyes?

Like I've said in these vids, go deeper. Take "because what's your hand range when you're doing that" and give me more information.

Why do you feel like hero can only have top pair?

What would be the worst pocket pair you would call here, TT?

That's starting to get reasonable

His name is Dobry Dzien and it means Good Morining in some Slavic languages.

Time Link to 00:05:40

One thing to add to this preflop discussion, you said MP was a weaker player. I think this is really important. If MP is a weaker player, BB´s squeezing range is probably way stronger, than it would be if MP would be a reg. BB can´t expect to have a ton of foldequity with his squeeze, given he´s squeezing against a bad player. + If MP is a weak player it´s way less likely, that you trapped with a strong hand. So that makes your range look weaker and basically looks like exactly the hand you have (medium PP). So I think shoving preflop would be pretty bad for this reasons...

The first three hands took ridiculously long. Last one was better, way better. Don't ever wanna hear again the words "all that jazz", over ten times in a bit over one hour is way too much. Overall the analysis was ok but kind of shallow since neither one of you is thinking in terms of theory in any spot.

Time Link to 00:47:56

What are your thoughts on villains check-raise all in on the turn with AA? Is this standard?

"all that jazz" made me laugh, culture shock, I am from Yorkshire near here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysbEWG_Npqs
and we dont say that :-)

What are your thoughts on villains check-raise all in on the turn with AA? Is this standard?

"all that jazz" made me laugh, culture shock, I am from Yorkshire near here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysbEWG_Npqs
and we dont say that :-)

I think it's alright sometimes vs. some guys. If he thinks he has no fold equity on that turn then he should bet again, if he thinks he can induce spazzy shoves from floats, bet again, if he thinks he can get floats to bet and sometimes bluff the river, c/c the turn, if he thinks hero will bet/call worse hands very frequently, c/ship. It all depends. and yeah lol I don't think I said it 10x that's ludicrous.

Time Link to 00:03:24

Is there any merit instead of shoving over the squeeze,making it something like 250?I think when we shove are hand is pretty face up for what it is,and making it 250 seems pretty strong like we want action

Time Link to 00:50:52

I think this bet on the turn is correct almost 100% of the time... for multiple reasons. If he has a monster, you will end up saving money because your turn bet is probably going to be smaller then the huge river bet he makes for trying to compensate for lost value. You have to bet the turn almost as a blocking bet from a river bet. Also, it is very unlikely if you lead the turn here, he is going to donk bluff the river. I think bet/folding this river is the correct play here most of the time.

Time Link to 00:57:19

I put him on some kind of KQh or ATh hand here for sure

What if this guy was getting ready to check fold the river, then he decided it would be a good spot to bluff with just the naked Ace of hearts, because he is aware of how strong his line looks.

Hand 3:

Isnt it better to bet the turn 100%? Especially if hes one of the best regs, bc he should be capable of handreading and our hand looks exactly like what we have. So he can play perfectly against us. Make us fold sometimes and we have almost 0 information about his hand