Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by jk3a (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:11:36

I think I like leading as well against this player instead of c/r given his fairly low cbet %, however I don't like the sizing, since I doubt you get raised light ever in this spot. Obviously given our hand we can pretty much double barrel almost any turn card, however I think that to maximize FE and get paid big when we hit we should better bigger.

Time Link to 00:29:43

Obviously you mostly commented on Papafoxx play, but what you think about Technological check on the turn with AJ here? I usually autobet in that spot when I don't have a club, not really expecting to get c/r that often. Obviously we aren't getting much action from worse, but there is enough money in the pot to just shut out hero hands that can easily still have 20-25% equity.

Time Link to 00:44:40

You mention that this should be a 3bet in position because he is opening a fairly large range from the turn and mention as reason the fact that he can call with worse. Given that we don't know of previous history, shouldn't we expect villain here to 4bet or fold the majority of the time rather than call and thus we can do this with almost atc here rather than AJs? Or are you suggesting to 3betting with the intention of shoving over a 4bet?

Obviously you mostly commented on Papafoxx play, but what you think about Technological check on the turn with AJ here? I usually autobet in that spot when I don't have a club, not really expecting to get c/r that often. Obviously we aren't getting much action from worse, but there is enough money in the pot to just shut out hero hands that can easily still have 20-25% equity.

i think betting the turn in his spot would be good/checking is ok too

You mention that this should be a 3bet in position because he is opening a fairly large range from the turn and mention as reason the fact that he can call with worse. Given that we don't know of previous history, shouldn't we expect villain here to 4bet or fold the majority of the time rather than call and thus we can do this with almost atc here rather than AJs? Or are you suggesting to 3betting with the intention of shoving over a 4bet?

I wouldn't normally assume someone to be in 4bet/fold mode without reads. But if that was the case, obv shoving over a 4bet could be profitable or just 3betting some weaker parts of our range would be good too.

Time Link to 00:26:04

Jared what do you think of check raising the turn?

Depending on villian's propensity to bet in position here for value with Ax, KQ I think a check raise on the turn could be good here too.

Jared what do you think of check raising the turn?

Depending on villian's propensity to bet in position here for value with Ax, KQ I think a check raise on the turn could be good here too.

agree, could def be good against some guys

Nice vid. Good discussion of issues arising out of some funky bet sizing.

Enjoyed it, thanks.

Time Link to 00:18:43

As I was watching this Q9s hand go down and listening to the commentary I was thinking about how differently fish play and how certain games bias the way we think. I am so used to the fish limp/call, raise my flop cbet line as a very strong hand and was really wondering if a fold on the flop would be correct as bizarrely weak as that sounds. Then, when he bet tiny on the turn I was even more convinced that he had a monster. His river check back with the nuts puts the final stamp of fishdom on his baby avatar.

Jk3a, your commentary that we may want to check/jam the turn for protection made me think you must see way more bluffing in these spots than I do. Perhaps this is site dependent or limit dependent but I would be curious what others have to say. I am pretty convinced that if I had a program that would fold my hand every time a fish minraised and I didn't have a monster that I would be playing close to optimally.

Time Link to 00:05:45

I dont know what you're gonna say yet since I stopped the vid to make a comment but i think this overbet is awful. The only hand he can value bet this way would be a flush and he just can't have a flush after checking the flop.

It is probably gona work against this weak opponent but it is a bad play against a good one in my opinion.

Your voice is dreamy

I love your voice (no homo). It would be nice if you did more micro NLH videos.

As I was watching this Q9s hand go down and listening to the commentary I was thinking about how differently fish play and how certain games bias the way we think. I am so used to the fish limp/call, raise my flop cbet line as a very strong hand and was really wondering if a fold on the flop would be correct as bizarrely weak as that sounds. Then, when he bet tiny on the turn I was even more convinced that he had a monster. His river check back with the nuts puts the final stamp of fishdom on his baby avatar.

Jk3a, your commentary that we may want to check/jam the turn for protection made me think you must see way more bluffing in these spots than I do. Perhaps this is site dependent or limit dependent but I would be curious what others have to say. I am pretty convinced that if I had a program that would fold my hand every time a fish minraised and I didn't have a monster that I would be playing close to optimally.

You make a really good point and I def wasn't surprised to see him show up with a strong hand in that spot. Although the river check is kinda shocking. My thought process is more along the lines of we have a pretty strong hand and he's an unknown fish. It may be a bit of HU play leaking into my commentary such that I think we should just showdown readless.

If we had say 88 on the turn and he bet anything reasonable I prolly fold without much thought. Q9s can't be that much different than that hand. Shipping/calling a big turn bet could def be a huge mistake against this guy and I would feel alot more comfortable doing it with say JJ+.

I dont know what you're gonna say yet since I stopped the vid to make a comment but i think this overbet is awful. The only hand he can value bet this way would be a flush and he just can't have a flush after checking the flop.

It is probably gona work against this weak opponent but it is a bad play against a good one in my opinion.

I was very surprised when I saw it and totally agree that against someone who can read hands that it's very bad. Bill also said the same when we discussed it.

agree, could def be good against some guys

reg c/r the turn with a gutter here, what kind of scenarios/players do you think it is good against? Most decent regs won't bet/fold a good ace here normally will they, and a lot of them are checking back queens. Isn't it almost alywas better to just barrel or c/f?

reg c/r the turn with a gutter here, what kind of scenarios/players do you think it is good against? Most decent regs won't bet/fold a good ace here normally will they, and a lot of them are checking back queens. Isn't it almost alywas better to just barrel or c/f?

you wouldn't b/f Ax there?

Hmm I dunno, but it seems like it would be a pretty big mistake to ever check anything better than a decent ace here so against someone I considered a good aggressive reg I'd be pretty confused and call, ha.

As I was watching this Q9s hand go down and listening to the commentary I was thinking about how differently fish play and how certain games bias the way we think. I am so used to the fish limp/call, raise my flop cbet line as a very strong hand and was really wondering if a fold on the flop would be correct as bizarrely weak as that sounds. Then, when he bet tiny on the turn I was even more convinced that he had a monster. His river check back with the nuts puts the final stamp of fishdom on his baby avatar.

Jk3a, your commentary that we may want to check/jam the turn for protection made me think you must see way more bluffing in these spots than I do. Perhaps this is site dependent or limit dependent but I would be curious what others have to say. I am pretty convinced that if I had a program that would fold my hand every time a fish minraised and I didn't have a monster that I would be playing close to optimally.

fwiw when i was watching this hand go down and thinking about what i'd do i said i'd jam the turn with Q9

when he showed the KK i said aloud "oops"

Time Link to 00:25:11

What happened to the QQ hand?

What happened to the QQ hand?

squeezed and they both folded

I really enjoyed this vid and learnt a lot. I think there is a lot more to learn by reviewing hands where mistakes are made by a reg at the limits vs watching some highstakes player play near "perfect" poker at a lower level.