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2 Months, 2 Million: KRANTZ: Episode Eight

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2 Months, 2 Million: KRANTZ: Episode Eight by KRANTZ

KRANTZ wraps up the 2 Months 2 Million series with a 2 tabling session at $2/4. Wait $2/4? How long does it take to make 2 million at that level?

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Two months. Two million. No problem. That's Team Israel's goal for the summer in Vegas. Watch Jay help hit it. This ongoing series is an in-depth look at his life during the shooting of whitelime, flawless_victory, Ansky and KRANTZ's forthcoming reality TV show (filming in Vegas this summer and airing on G4 in late August). Jay will play and analyze hands he's actually playing while on television, using an aggressive bankroll management strategy to climb from 5/10 and 10/20 back to the nosebleeds. Can he make it? We have faith. They don't call him pr1nnyraid for nothin'.

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  • Posted over 3 years ago

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Poemmel

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drsmooth

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400nl? Clearest indicator yet that Krantz is busto. :-D

Been looking forward to this

Posted over 3 years ago

Hood

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Your response re. 6-max content is the reason i have been a subscriber to deuces cracked and why i can never see myself cancelling. i dont even play 6-max. It's the reason I go out of my way (often monetarily) that play on pokerstars. I hope the comparison fits.

i ;spade; you guys i thyme

Posted over 3 years ago

HustleHard

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i hardly EVER make comments, but i will say DC has always been the 'top' site in terms of video content, quality, & reliability.

this past season has lacked tremendously in 6max videos, i imagine there were some complaints/threads made about this so i didn't feel the need to say anything. i will say that when i loaded up my home pages every day for the past few weeks, whenever i clicked on DC it was VERY tough for me to find any watchable video, only on certain days were there some.

but the fact that you recognize this and are resolving this by having extra 6max series in the coming season, will certainly make up for it. awesome way to rebound and make it up, thanks.


btw, nice video - for the record, i like the 5bet ship w KJo also. gj on this krantz

Posted over 3 years ago

reemas

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screenflow? what settings did you use to export this video? i use screenflow too but get huge file sizes.

Posted over 3 years ago

corydrury1

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yessssss 6m NL... 10-20NL + request please (HSNL HU vids are encouraged as well Smile

Posted over 3 years ago

danndann1

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i beg for more hu vids from you jay and also from emil & daevils...

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vijli

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KRANTZ

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screenflow? what settings did you use to export this video? i use screenflow too but get huge file sizes.



I just exported and scaled to 100% size, otherwise all standard settings.

Posted over 3 years ago

KRANTZ

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fwiw I am finalizing the Fall lineup and there are going to be 3-4 6max NL vids per week, every range of stakes from micros-HSNL. Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sundays during the Variety Hour. Hope you guys like what we're planning, Dan and I have spent awhile on it!

Posted over 3 years ago

Digital Youkai

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Time Link to 00:41:17

Here you decide to 4 bet-fold with AJo and I'd like to know more about your thought process. What type of hands (AQ? KJ? 99?) and what type of situation are you looking for to pull that move? What if it was CO vs BUT?
Thank you, awesome video Smile

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KRANTZ

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Here you decide to 4 bet-fold with AJo and I'd like to know more about your thought process. What type of hands (AQ? KJ? 99?) and what type of situation are you looking for to pull that move? What if it was CO vs BUT?
Thank you, awesome video Smile



Basically hands that don't have bad reverse implied odds when you call and that don't make life a living hell OOP. As far as the situation... an aggressive player in position and deep stacks. CO vs BTN is theoretically a better situation but keep in mind there are some players that loooove 3balling the button vs EP openers with big stacks...

Posted over 3 years ago

DeathDonkey

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screenflow? what settings did you use to export this video? i use screenflow too but get huge file sizes.



Fwiw we have a fairly long process for handling Screenflow vids that goes beyond when KRANTZ thinks his vid is done Smile Smile

It goes, screenflow --> export MOV --> convert to WMV with a separate encoding program --> produce AVI --> encode MP4. Weeeee.

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reemas

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Fwiw we have a fairly long process for handling Screenflow vids that goes beyond when KRANTZ thinks his vid is done Smile Smile

It goes, screenflow --> export MOV --> convert to WMV with a separate encoding program --> produce AVI --> encode MP4. Weeeee.



yeah i thought so cause krantz's method probably results in a clean BIG file. all that other stuff, is there any way you can share some info? i am having a tough time getting my videos online for others to watch in the members section because they're huge or blurry.

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DeathDonkey

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yeah i thought so cause krantz's method probably results in a clean BIG file. all that other stuff, is there any way you can share some info? i am having a tough time getting my videos online for others to watch in the members section because they're huge or blurry.



Sure, we use TMPGEnc Xpress to convert the MOV to a WMV with some pretty high quality results. That software is not free but looks like they have some other versions that may be free, not sure if they have all the functionality you will need, but poke around.

That would really be the last step you would need, we go on to produce the AVI only because we add on the DC and series intro clips to the front of the videos, so it makes sense to produce one huge high quality file (uncompressed AVI), and also our tool that encodes MP4s I believe doesn't take a WMV as input. That tool is MediaCoder.

I'm sure when Entity gets back from his trip this weekend and sees this thread he will correct me, as he is much better video ninja than I.

Posted over 3 years ago

esandwhizz

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Time Link to 00:49:42

What would be your range for flatting the tiny 4bet getting 3-1 and 8-1 implied against what appears to be a fairly nitty player?

Posted over 3 years ago

mrjusticerowlatt

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Krantz

Thanks for this solid response to the call for more 6max.

I'd like to pick your brains on this turn betsize if I could. What factors enter your mind here (leverage/commitment/protection/opponent's perception of it etc.)? When I'm in this spot I'm thinking about pricing out combo draws (sometimes I see people call to hit and then jam river) and leaving a meaningful amount left behind on the river - maybe I'm wrong in thinking that this should be a primary concern...?

Would you ever chose any other betsizing? Would you ever raise/fold here?

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jaysu

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Hey Krantz,

I'm not sure if I really understand why check/raising the turn here with a set is better for value than just triple barrelling, unless we knew that villain bet a lot when you check here.

You said something about you repping a draw, and it being less likely that he has a queen since you have two of them which makes sense, and that he would likely bet top pair, but wouldn't a lot of players fold a weak ace to a check/raise here, and be more likely to call a turn and river bet? My main question is if the board was dryer would you be less likely to check raise? I understand the river play after the turn though.

Maybe it is bad for villain to be bet/folding here with a weak top pair, so you assumed he wouldn't do that? But then he ended up checking anyway.

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Donktard

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really annoying that the screen is messed up for over half the video.

Posted over 3 years ago

WeekendWarrior

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Time Link to 00:45:36

Did some calculations about this spot, ive calculted how much FE is needed:

Say his callrange is JJ+AQ+ (on the tight side right ?) then our equity vs that range is 27.5% So our FE has to be:

EV=[ FE*pot ]+[ Eqc *(1-FE) * (pot+ call villain] - [ (1-EQc)(1-FE)*bet]

EV= X * 186 + [ .275 * (1-X) * (186+618)] - [(1-.275)(1-X)*760]

0=186X +[216.15-216.15X] - [551 -551X]

168x-216.15x+551x +216.15-551

502.85X - 334.85 = 0
502.85X= 334.85
X=334.85/502
FE=66.5% so he needs to fold 66.5% of the time

Ok so his callrange was JJ+,AQ+ = 4.2%
Then his 4bet range has to be 100/33.5 * 4.2 = 12.5% for it to be profitable right ?

Could somebody check if the numbers are correct ?
And is a 4bet% of 12.5% reasonable for a reg at 400nl ? looks pretty high...

Posted over 3 years ago

KRANTZ

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Hey Krantz,

I'm not sure if I really understand why check/raising the turn here with a set is better for value than just triple barrelling, unless we knew that villain bet a lot when you check here.

You said something about you repping a draw, and it being less likely that he has a queen since you have two of them which makes sense, and that he would likely bet top pair, but wouldn't a lot of players fold a weak ace to a check/raise here, and be more likely to call a turn and river bet? My main question is if the board was dryer would you be less likely to check raise? I understand the river play after the turn though.

Maybe it is bad for villain to be bet/folding here with a weak top pair, so you assumed he wouldn't do that? But then he ended up checking anyway.



I don't think anyone would bet/fold an ace on this board in 2009 for 100bb, no. Especially vs someone like me.

I assumed he would bet the turn, most of the time, I was wrong on that assumption but if he doesn't bet the turn he will surely bet the river.

Posted over 3 years ago

JammyJenny

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+1 more 6max vids please and not to be snotty but way more msnl 1/2-5/10 than micro and highstakes as thats where all your subscribers play!!!

gr8 vid, your style is so much more fun than most

Posted over 3 years ago

jaysu

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I showed Krantz this hand I played and he asked me to post it here. I already discussed it with Terp, and you can see his response, but I wanted to ask Krantz about whether it was a similar spot to the QQQ hand at minute 42 that I linked above. The main difference is that the board has less draws I guess.

The villain is Bouge_Todd, he has a positive winrate at 2/4, not sure why he moved down. I've played with him before but back in May on a different computer, so I didn't really have notes or anything. Guy who folded on the flop seems to be a fish, but unknown.

If anyone is interested in stats, hes 22/18/5 with a 71% cbet over 412 hands. I can give more upon request. For this month I've been about 23/18/2.5 with about 6% 3 bet, 57% fold to cbet, but I don't know what he actually has me as.

Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $405.95
MP: $185.00
CO: $216.45
Hero (BTN): $210.75
SB: $201.00
BB: $118.20

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with Ad Jd
2 folds, CO raises to $6, Hero calls $6, 1 fold, BB calls $4

Flop: ($19.00) As 7c 5h (3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $12, Hero calls $12, BB folds

Turn: ($43.00) Qd (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $28, CO raises to $100, Hero folds

Final Pot: $99.00
CO wins $96.00
(Rake: $3.00)


I really didn't know if I should bet the turn or not, I decided to because I thought I had the best hand. I thought that when he checks and doesn't double barrel, he might have a queen or a weaker ace trying to get to showdown. But maybe he wouldn't double barrel if he thinks I don't often have hands like 99 or 7x. I figured that he would be unlikely to try to bluff me off top pair, since I generally always have something here (maybe he doesn't know),

I think my range here against this guy for calling flop and betting turn is probably around AT+, A7s, A5s, 75s, 86s, 77, 55. Maybe some weaker aces like A9, A6s but unlikely since I don't always call them pre and I might check the turn.

I can be a fairly aggressive player but I'm also kind of nitty postflop, especially in multiway pots with the fish still left to act. I don't know if villain knows this but I'm very rarely floating here, at least at this particular point in time, although if the pot was HU I likely would. So the hands I could be bluffing with are nearly zero really. The only draw I could have which he could make me fold is 86s and I might not always call that pre, and call the flop with it.

So, AJ here is close to the weaker hands that I'm betting. I made the decision to bet/fold before I bet, although I wasn't really sure if I should be folding, it seemed kind of spewy to be calling a check/raise here without reads or history. At the time, I didn't think he was trying to make me fold top pair because as I showed, most of the hands that I bet here are 2 pair or better, which I'm not folding. And his value range here is pretty small, which is why I concluded I wouldn't be check raised often...

I posted it in the 2+2 ssnl forum because I post there a lot, and then I discussed the hand a bit with Terp in pm's. We talked about it quite a bit but I'll show you what Terp sent me since its a decent summary:

"1) you shouldn't really be betting the turn very often, because your range is heavily comprised of hands like yours and very few monsters - probably a 4+:1 ratio. you should fold stuff like 99 on the flop and shouldn't really bet it on the turn, anyway. because of YOUR range and the lack of airballs, you can't valuebet the thin ends. how can you bet for value if you can't have any bluffs? why would anyone call you if your range contains no air? a smart player doesn't merely call simply because he has Qx or something here.

2) on the same reasoning, what the hell is he checkraising the turn with> as you said, it is dumb as a value line because it doesn't max value anyway. it's not about "playing for stacks" it's about winning the most on average. just as your turn betting range in this hand was unbalanced (no bluffs), i believe his c/r range is too - no strong hands. it just is really poor to c/r for value here, esp when you check back a lot of stuff. if anything i imagine he thought a bet as a bluff would fail, you would bet Ax too much when checked to and then he probably thought you were a bit w/t and would fold it."

So at the time I thought villain wasn't bluffing, which is why I folded, and then Terp told me it was probably a bad fold. Is your QQQ hand significantly different than this because of the board, players, or whatever other factors? Or can villain be doing this for value with a decent frequency? If he can, is it really a bad play like Terp said?

Also, in your video, you said you expected villain to be bet/calling his top pair weak kicker, but is that really the correct play, even against you? Or would you advise him to fold? I would have expected you to double barrel if you had a draw on that board, but maybe check/raising is better if you think so.

Posted over 3 years ago

ms513

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Time Link to 00:24:38

Seems an ideal spot to turn our hand into a bluff now with blockers to the bottom straight and him being very unlikely to have ak. Checking this turn is a mistake imo.

Posted over 3 years ago

KRANTZ

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Seems an ideal spot to turn our hand into a bluff now with blockers to the bottom straight and him being very unlikely to have ak. Checking this turn is a mistake imo.



he's not playing K9 in the cutoff like this and regardless, blockers don't matter as he won't be folding nearly enough hands in his range, not checking is burning money

Posted over 3 years ago

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"1) you shouldn't really be betting the turn very often, because your range is heavily comprised of hands like yours and very few monsters - probably a 4+:1 ratio. you should fold stuff like 99 on the flop and shouldn't really bet it on the turn, anyway. because of YOUR range and the lack of airballs, you can't valuebet the thin ends. how can you bet for value if you can't have any bluffs? why would anyone call you if your range contains no air? a smart player doesn't merely call simply because he has Qx or something here.



That's absurd. You should be betting the turn because your opponent is nearly always check/calling or check/folding. It's alright to bet/fold here because you're just rarely getting checkraised, it's that simple, and the fact that you're pretty nitty supports that. I don't know where he is getting a 4:1 ratio of weak hands.

Saying that you can't bet for value because you don't have any bluffs is just plain wrong. That means you will never stack anyone when you flop a set. Sure, you're unbalanced, that doesn't mean you can't bet and that betting isn't far and away the best play.

2) on the same reasoning, what the hell is he checkraising the turn with> as you said, it is dumb as a value line because it doesn't max value anyway. it's not about "playing for stacks" it's about winning the most on average. just as your turn betting range in this hand was unbalanced (no bluffs), i believe his c/r range is too - no strong hands. it just is really poor to c/r for value here, esp when you check back a lot of stuff. if anything i imagine he thought a bet as a bluff would fail, you would bet Ax too much when checked to and then he probably thought you were a bit w/t and would fold it."



Again, this seems to be backwards logic. If he is bluffing he should bet the turn, he has FE over your floats and equity in the pot assuming he is semi-bluffing (which, if we want to make an argument for stacking off here when he checks and you bet the turn, he should be semi-bluffing). Checkraising is not "dumb as a value line" here if you are betting nearly every hand you have (supported by how you describe your image, anyway) on the turn and no one expects anyone to fold an ace to this line anymore.

Lastly, the idea that sure, a big hand should keep betting because all hands that bet/call the turn will just call the turn when you bet and you don't run the risk of your opponent just checking back... so then he must be bluffing... it makes some sense but is most def superseded by the idea that a. betting the turn is clearly the most +EV line and b. if he is bluffing he'd much more often just keep on betting instead of c/r-ing. I'm just skeptical that he'd check with the intention of c/f-ing and then try to c/r bluff you off an ace.


Also, in your video, you said you expected villain to be bet/calling his top pair weak kicker, but is that really the correct play, even against you? Or would you advise him to fold? I would have expected you to double barrel if you had a draw on that board, but maybe check/raising is better if you think so.



I'd advise him to fold because I'm extremely unbalanced in that spot and have his range crushed when I c/r, even if I'm semi-bluffing.

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