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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by KRANTZ (Micro/Small Stakes)

Great vid guys

Time Link to 00:07:37

the J6 hand on the flop - if he shoves, while yes, we have to fold and we waste our implied odds for hitting our flush when he has a straight draw that would have barreled it, aren't we also probably beaten? so like wouldn't he respond to a 3bet by shoving all nutted made hands and nut flush draws (which we are happy to fold against), and probably calling straight draws that will fold if we bet the turn? so the value we lose vs his straight draws that he would have barreled is regained when he calls the flop only to fold the turn, and we never get stacked when he has the nut flush draw and the turn is a heart. he also might lead a turn heart when he has a straight draw, so we have some implied odds from that as well.

it's kind of hard for him to have pure air on that board (seems like he'll have at least a straight draw), so are we that worried about folding out air with a flop 3bet?

also, if you are in villains shoes, is c/c'ing the river an option if you have KJ? Wouldn't we expect Caffrey to bet strong made hands on the turn and to check back A high flush draws on the river?

agreed

Time Link to 00:38:53

What do you think about going for a river c/r instead of going for a check call? You get his draws to fold out but also you get his hands that he went for thin value with to fold as well. I could see him him possibly going for thin value with 99,TT maybe some 7x hands. He could be bluffing with some Ax as well that you get to fold. I know it would be hard to rep a strong value hand here though so that would probably be the problem to taking this line but someting to consider at least.

the J6 hand on the flop - if he shoves, while yes, we have to fold and we waste our implied odds for hitting our flush when he has a straight draw that would have barreled it, aren't we also probably beaten? so like wouldn't he respond to a 3bet by shoving all nutted made hands and nut flush draws (which we are happy to fold against), and probably calling straight draws that will fold if we bet the turn? so the value we lose vs his straight draws that he would have barreled is regained when he calls the flop only to fold the turn, and we never get stacked when he has the nut flush draw and the turn is a heart. he also might lead a turn heart when he has a straight draw, so we have some implied odds from that as well.

it's kind of hard for him to have pure air on that board (seems like he'll have at least a straight draw), so are we that worried about folding out air with a flop 3bet?

also, if you are in villains shoes, is c/c'ing the river an option if you have KJ? Wouldn't we expect Caffrey to bet strong made hands on the turn and to check back A high flush draws on the river?

good points!

re: KJ on the river, i'd call

What do you think about going for a river c/r instead of going for a check call? You get his draws to fold out but also you get his hands that he went for thin value with to fold as well. I could see him him possibly going for thin value with 99,TT maybe some 7x hands. He could be bluffing with some Ax as well that you get to fold. I know it would be hard to rep a strong value hand here though so that would probably be the problem to taking this line but someting to consider at least.

a river c/r is pretty nifty but i'm not so sure you'll actually get those hands to fold. IMO most good players at mid-high stakes and bad players/calling stations at low stakes just don't fold to river c/r when they value bet and their hand is face up

Bluffing at micro/low stakes is truly an artform and takes a very deep understanding of your opponent....

Time Link to 00:21:31

Given the large 4bet preflop which bloated the pot, shouldn't this hand be a 2 street bluff and nothing more? Can we really go 1/3rd 1/3rd 1/3rd on flop/turn/river and expect a lot of fold equity? I mean I do understand now from game theory that the more streets of betting we have the better we own them with position and the harder it is for them to continue calling, but still 1/3rd pot is so tiny and I'd rather bet bigger to make it a 2 street hand. It would be interesting to analyze this further.......

Also, with the Kx on the turn, I think if we were to bet 1/3rd pot on that card and only be able to bet 1/3rd pot on the river, that he would have (in most cases) already made his decision on the turn to go with the hand or not. If he actually isn't thinking about the river I feel in many cases he would talk himself into calling to such a small river bet anyway. In that case, it would obviously be better for us to bet bigger on the turn.

Given the large 4bet preflop which bloated the pot, shouldn't this hand be a 2 street bluff and nothing more? Can we really go 1/3rd 1/3rd 1/3rd on flop/turn/river and expect a lot of fold equity? I mean I do understand now from game theory that the more streets of betting we have the better we own them with position and the harder it is for them to continue calling, but still 1/3rd pot is so tiny and I'd rather bet bigger to make it a 2 street hand. It would be interesting to analyze this further.......

Also, with the Kx on the turn, I think if we were to bet 1/3rd pot on that card and only be able to bet 1/3rd pot on the river, that he would have (in most cases) already made his decision on the turn to go with the hand or not. If he actually isn't thinking about the river I feel in many cases he would talk himself into calling to such a small river bet anyway. In that case, it would obviously be better for us to bet bigger on the turn.

It's not always easy to know whether or not you can go 3 streets or 2 with the small bets. Generally with the small bets, it's best to go 3 streets when they will have a lot of extra weak hands or air by that 3rd street you can make them fold, essentially stringing them along for one more bet.

To your second point about them making their decision on the turn, I think that is true in some cases, but it can also be discounted because it's pretty common for someone who has made their decision on the turn to not fold the river to just be like "screw it im not folding the river so might as well go all in now" - so they just stick it in on the turn.

Hey guys,

good stuff as always.

i was a bit supicious of the river shove with 79ss (23:00) so i made an evcalc on excel and the outcome was that the shove is not much profitable(disregarded rake). look: [IMG]http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4976/evcalcprinnyraiding3.png[/IMG]
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Probably its more +ev the weaker our opponent, because they may fold a weak Tx like T7s on the river, but usually i see a ten not folding there

Mc8

Hard for me to read the image so maybe i missed it, but i didn't see any 67s, 65s, 45s combos in there that he is calling 2 streets and folding the river.