Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by WiltOnTilt (Mid Stakes)

sweet, will watch this right away

that penalty stunt is going to be epic

Really nice series, wilt. Hope to see more HU videos from you.

Time Link to 01:00:45

At the 1 hour mark you say you might even fold ak to a raise on the turn (or at least think about it)
I dont really understand this because if I were mixies id call the turn with any set, 2 pair or AQ because there is only one potsize bet left, he is in position and you might be bluffing. And I think this is the only correct play with all of these hands on a baord as dry as this.
Are there any advantages to shoving a monster on the turn?
Doesnt a shove look more like a desperation bluff or weak draw?

Time Link to 00:26:39

on x7T9J where we have AT, i don't really get the shove, especially if you think he's going to turn his entire range of stuff we beat into a bluff. what better hands can he have that didn't already raise us and are gonna fold now? i don't see much value either especially.

The comment about 77 being a clear vb on the 6xxKQ board whereas 6T was not did not make sense to me.

If 77 is a clear VB then A6 shouldnt be that terrible right? The times we vb against A6 on that river with 77 can't make all the difference between A6 being a check and 77 a bet?

If we are betting A6 we are clearly not really looking to get called by J6 that often, simply because it shouldnt be in his range right? So our T6 is still VBing against the same worse sixes (and other worse hands) as 77 cept for the times he has A6.

I am not saying I think you are wrong in saying that, I am just hoping you could elaborate and help me realize what I am clearly not atm

how about that penalty stunt? when is it going to happen? please don't change the stunt

suprised w/ lowish rating great video

on x7T9J where we have AT, i don't really get the shove, especially if you think he's going to turn his entire range of stuff we beat into a bluff. what better hands can he have that didn't already raise us and are gonna fold now? i don't see much value either especially.

he will also be bluffing better hands and value betting the 2pairs etc. We'd have to count up the combos and determine the worst hand we think he bluff catches with. At the time I thought I'd be able to get him off enough of his range such that shoving is best but it's probably close. A lot of ppl have v small c/c range in this spot in my shoes so using the 2pair hands to bluff catch and our 1pair hands to bluff with is probably closer to correct.

how about that penalty stunt? when is it going to happen? please don't change the stunt

+1, plz to be dancing soon

Good video.

Really like your calm voice WOT and way you talk about poker.

Have to say you need to cbet more to create more of a c/r dynamic.
Seemed like you were checking back a ton!

Aprt from that good work.

Wherez to get the theme used in this vid?

The comment about 77 being a clear vb on the 6xxKQ board whereas 6T was not did not make sense to me.

If 77 is a clear VB then A6 shouldnt be that terrible right? The times we vb against A6 on that river with 77 can't make all the difference between A6 being a check and 77 a bet?

If we are betting A6 we are clearly not really looking to get called by J6 that often, simply because it shouldnt be in his range right? So our T6 is still VBing against the same worse sixes (and other worse hands) as 77 cept for the times he has A6.

I am not saying I think you are wrong in saying that, I am just hoping you could elaborate and help me realize what I am clearly not atm

You're right, I probably over-stated myself a bit there.

+1, plz to be dancing soon

i'll check with tony next time i see him online and light a fire under his rear

Good video.

Really like your calm voice WOT and way you talk about poker.

Have to say you need to cbet more to create more of a c/r dynamic.
Seemed like you were checking back a ton!

Aprt from that good work.

thanks man

i'm working really hard at not over explaining things like I've been prone to do in the past.

At the 1 hour mark you say you might even fold ak to a raise on the turn (or at least think about it)
I dont really understand this because if I were mixies id call the turn with any set, 2 pair or AQ because there is only one potsize bet left, he is in position and you might be bluffing. And I think this is the only correct play with all of these hands on a baord as dry as this.
Are there any advantages to shoving a monster on the turn?
Doesnt a shove look more like a desperation bluff or weak draw?

good question. i think it's a spot where people probably don't bluff enough honestly, and that's why i'd want to fold there if raised. I agree the best play with 2pair/set for him is to call because i can bluff the river and obv if i'm considering a fold with AK then it can't be that great for value (aside from leveling reasons).

i think i'd fold it mostly because I just don't see people bluffing in that spot very often (or maybe i dont call enough in that spot to find out?) either way it's a super strong move and really hard for him to have air/draws there that doesn't have showdown value, which means he'd have to pure float like J high that turned a spade draw and then semi bluff it or he'd have to take like 99 and turn it into a bluff. It seems rather unlikely, but i agree with you it does seem unlikely he'd play many value hands for a turn raise as well.

Now that I made this post though, i'm probably gonna have to click call more often in this spot vs the regulars!

Plz to be stunting

on x7T9J where we have AT, i don't really get the shove, especially if you think he's going to turn his entire range of stuff we beat into a bluff.

I think the point behind the shove is that he could actually have those hands within his range, and even if he doesn't, he's going to apply a lot of pressure by turning his entire range into a bluff. By shoving there, WiltOnTilt had the chance to make him fold a better hand.

what better hands can he have that didn't already raise us and are gonna fold now?

Well it was the jack on the river that made things tricky. That could have improved his hand even though it didn't even WiltOnTilt's hand.

At least this is what I got from it. I've gotten into trouble a lot by checking the river in these kinds of situations.

so tony finally got around to doing the penalty stunt. It's real dark at the beginning but stick with it. He gets rejected hard at the beginning too... lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsKYxEfCTpk

nice work buddy

WoT

Time Link to 00:31:43

There are just so many hands that Tony can check back on a rainbow A hi board that paired the 5 that he could either: (a) raise for value; or (b) turn his made hand into a bluff. Any Ax that was counterfeited by the J [which would fold to a shove], pocket pairs turned into a bluff [would also fold to shove] given his small raise size on river. Great bet sizing to set up a sick river spot.

And do you really think that AJ is a fold for Tony in this spot? Because I would think that AJ is a snap call from an aggro villan (you) who would recognize that Tony isn't repping a thing & can bluff shove to get him off of his weakish range.

so tony finally got around to doing the penalty stunt. It's real dark at the beginning but stick with it. He gets rejected hard at the beginning too... lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsKYxEfCTpk

nice work buddy

WoT

WOW, I was just going to make a topic and complain why this video never got posted! Glad I thought of looking at the video topic first

Good work Tony!

There are just so many hands that Tony can check back on a rainbow A hi board that paired the 5 that he could either: (a) raise for value; or (b) turn his made hand into a bluff. Any Ax that was counterfeited by the J [which would fold to a shove], pocket pairs turned into a bluff [would also fold to shove] given his small raise size on river. Great bet sizing to set up a sick river spot.

And do you really think that AJ is a fold for Tony in this spot? Because I would think that AJ is a snap call from an aggro villan (you) who would recognize that Tony isn't repping a thing & can bluff shove to get him off of his weakish range.

just because i'm aggro doesn't mean i'm insane. He's repping a very strong range when he raises the river there, and what air hand can i legitimately have there to rebluff? That means i'd have to be turning top pair into a bluff to try to get him off 2pair... seems kind of like a stretch, doesn't it ?

you mentioned he could turn pocket pairs into a bluff... to bluff me off what? top pair? when the board pairs and the kickers are counterfeit? Again... that seems kind of like a stretch.