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Poker with Your Pants On: Episode Three

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Poker with Your Pants On: Episode Three by livebikebart

More hands, more betting, more tight players with no clue what is going on as Bart reviews everyone's play at his local game.

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Bart brings his live No-Limit hands from his play in LA's casinos.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: High Stakes
  • 60 minutes long
  • Posted 8 months ago

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Comments for Poker with Your Pants On: Episode Three

aspirina1961

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Chimeni

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Time Link to 00:02:28

Bart, would you say the players in 10/20 are more skillful/aggro, and/or just want to play for higher stakes? The reason I ask is (theoretically on line at least) you try to move up in stakes to continue to evolve your game. I know you crush 5/10 and from what you've said, the 10/20 pool is much smaller...are they that much better. i.e., you have less of an edge? Thanks and GL at WSOP. BTW, tweet some results if you can.

Posted 12 months ago

Bingas

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Time Link to 00:26:05

These games are rigged

You have KHeart and one KHeart is on the board.

Ask casino for refund, if you still have this hand history saved or can remember hand number

Online poker is banned and LIVE POKER IS RIGGED!

Posted 12 months ago

TheLooool

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Very good vid, I think u have an excellent thoughtprocess that goes beyond most other coaches level and that without ending up mindf**** yourself Smile You also explain it very well. GJ!

Posted 12 months ago

pokerpilot33

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Great series, hope DC will have more of the same!
Question, what do you do when a hand has two King of Hearts?

Posted 12 months ago

livebikebart

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Bart, would you say the players in 10/20 are more skillful/aggro, and/or just want to play for higher stakes? The reason I ask is (theoretically on line at least) you try to move up in stakes to continue to evolve your game. I know you crush 5/10 and from what you've said, the 10/20 pool is much smaller...are they that much better. i.e., you have less of an edge? Thanks and GL at WSOP. BTW, tweet some results if you can.



I think that for the most part the regs are not paying off as much and they are also merging their value bets and bluffs on the river. I've had this discussion with many of the top pros at 5/10 and 10/20 regarding winrate. The consensus is that you might be able to make 20% more per hour if you are a top player in the 10-20 pool but the risk is literally 3-4 times higher. I think that if you ask most people they would rather play risk free at 5-10, keep yourself less liquid and do some other things with your money.

Posted 12 months ago

livebikebart

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These games are rigged

You have KHeart and one KHeart is on the board.

Ask casino for refund, if you still have this hand history saved or can remember hand number

Online poker is banned and LIVE POKER IS RIGGED!



Oops!! My bad. I should have tabled my hand and called for a misdeal!!

Posted 12 months ago

pr0wler

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Time Link to 00:26:27

I think the river is definitely a C/F with AK. If he's barely calling with AA, then is he ever going to call with the few combos of KJ suited in his range? Even then, there are more combos of KQ, AJhh, J9hh etc. anyway. Additionally, given that he is probably nitty he is probably never going to turn a hand like AQhh into a bluff. He's never going to value bet worse either with hands like KJ. I don't even know if he would value bet AK in position (if he didn't 3-bet it) on the river with that board texture when checked to.

Otherwise, I thought the hands were interesting...especially the 87ss hand which was very well played as you got maximum value from the clown. That's one thing you mentioned which is definitely true, in situations where the recreational villain has a big pocket pair they get married to their hand, you might as well just bet really big and get as much money as you can since they aren't folding anyway.

Posted 12 months ago

livebikebart

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I think the river is definitely a C/F with AK. If he's barely calling with AA, then is he ever going to call with the few combos of KJ suited in his range? Even then, there are more combos of KQ, AJhh, J9hh etc. anyway. Additionally, given that he is probably nitty he is probably never going to turn a hand like AQhh into a bluff. He's never going to value bet worse either with hands like KJ. I don't even know if he would value bet AK in position (if he didn't 3-bet it) on the river with that board texture when checked to.

Otherwise, I thought the hands were interesting...especially the 87ss hand which was very well played as you got maximum value from the clown. That's one thing you mentioned which is definitely true, in situations where the recreational villain has a big pocket pair they get married to their hand, you might as well just bet really big and get as much money as you can since they aren't folding anyway.



I think that with the proper betsizing (a little smaller) I can get hands like KJ and possibly AQ to call. You'd be shocked how difficult it is for guys to fold to small river bets with top pair after the pot is bloated up so much. And you are correct, he is never betting single paired hands for value. He might even check back KQ. Showdown monkeyness at its finest.

Posted 12 months ago

zachd2323

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I think that with the proper betsizing (a little smaller) I can get hands like KJ and possibly AQ to call. You'd be shocked how difficult it is for guys to fold to small river bets with top pair after the pot is bloated up so much. And you are correct, he is never betting single paired hands for value. He might even check back KQ. Showdown monkeyness at its finest.



Wouldn't KJ and AQ still be too small of a portion of his range to make betting here good though? It seems close, but if he's playing all KQ and only KJ suited it would be a c/f. I'm not sure if this is the case, and you would obviously know better than me.

Posted 12 months ago

BalognaSangwich

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Time Link to 00:20:19

There are two Kh in this hand - not that it really changes anything.

Posted 12 months ago

QuadC0mmand0

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Time Link to 00:20:15

Obviously a replayer error, Kh is in your hand and on the board but you make the comment that two hears on board, top pair and "I have the K of hearts."

Do you remember what K you had? and do any of your comments/ analysis change?

Posted 12 months ago

marcel23

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Really appreciate the thorough explanation of each hand, and even hand alternatives. More please!

Posted 12 months ago

needfinesse

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These HH reviews are good, there are tons of HH reviews everywhere. I haven't seen the vid yet, but hopefully there will be some live action too.

Also can you spend you a few moments talking about live tells. Both low confidence and high confidence. (Read the Navarro book couple years ago, pretty sure you have more to add as well)

Do you think that live turn cbets gets way more folds compared to online turn cbets. I play live too, and notice that many will peel flop and constantly eat the second barrel. Right now, I am experimenting on sizing my cbets smaller and looking to bomb more turns with hands that have no SD value.

Posted 12 months ago

goldganesh

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Hi bart, the hand where you river a set of JJ, can we really put KT and T8 in his cold calling range vs a pfr after you tag him to be a solid kid??? Even KTs and T8s is pretty questionable vs your utg opening range and nobody left to act. Like you said on turn, if he had a hand like Qx hand or even 78 or some value hand, he would be betting vs the really bad player on the turn. I would def like bet/folding but given his cold call range doesn't make sense.

Your thoughts would be great...thanks bart

Posted 12 months ago

livebikebart

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Wouldn't KJ and AQ still be too small of a portion of his range to make betting here good though? It seems close, but if he's playing all KQ and only KJ suited it would be a c/f. I'm not sure if this is the case, and you would obviously know better than me.



I think that you are right--combos wise this very well might be a check fold. Obviously if he is playing all KQos there are more combos of that hand than KJs and AQhh. I could also optimistically add QJs and some QJos but those hands probably don't pay off the river.

Posted 12 months ago

livebikebart

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Obviously a replayer error, Kh is in your hand and on the board but you make the comment that two hears on board, top pair and "I have the K of hearts."

Do you remember what K you had? and do any of your comments/ analysis change?



I definitely didn't have the Kh. This was just an error by me imputing the hand into the replayer.

Posted 12 months ago

livebikebart

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These HH reviews are good, there are tons of HH reviews everywhere. I haven't seen the vid yet, but hopefully there will be some live action too.

Also can you spend you a few moments talking about live tells. Both low confidence and high confidence. (Read the Navarro book couple years ago, pretty sure you have more to add as well)

Do you think that live turn cbets gets way more folds compared to online turn cbets. I play live too, and notice that many will peel flop and constantly eat the second barrel. Right now, I am experimenting on sizing my cbets smaller and looking to bomb more turns with hands that have no SD value.



Next episode should be live action from LATB.

I think that you are right on--turn cbetting adds more fold equity live. I go over a hand in the next episode on an AA39 board that covers this theory.

Posted 12 months ago

livebikebart

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Hi bart, the hand where you river a set of JJ, can we really put KT and T8 in his cold calling range vs a pfr after you tag him to be a solid kid??? Even KTs and T8s is pretty questionable vs your utg opening range and nobody left to act. Like you said on turn, if he had a hand like Qx hand or even 78 or some value hand, he would be betting vs the really bad player on the turn. I would def like bet/folding but given his cold call range doesn't make sense.

Your thoughts would be great...thanks bart



I don't find it strange to call a UTG raiser with KTs or T8s with these stacks. I don't think that the solid kid had any idea who I was. I do pass, however, on these field cold calls if I know that the UTG raiser is a very solid player. Do you think that he is raising all in on the river over the horrible chick's lead and my raise with a bluff? My experience tells me that this is highly unlikely.

Posted 12 months ago

CajunDragon

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Time Link to 00:59:19

WTF! is this common?? This exact scenario happened to me in the Rio poker room last year at WSOP!!! I showed the AA and she showed me the KK and called. It was a large black lady. (1-3 or 2-5, dont recall). Of course she hit a K. The dealer must of been in on it! I don't remember why I showed her she was beat. It was a friendly night, neither of us was drinking.

Posted 12 months ago

jjfootball2009

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Time Link to 00:24:09

Bart, I agree with the bet fold, but if a Queen comes on that river, and he's nitty, I don't know what you're beating except KJ which is less likely to be in his range. Do you make a smaller river bet on something like the Queen? I would be tempted to check it all together, unless I had a read I could make a blocking bet.

Edit: Made this comment before I saw the Queen come out lol. Perfect river card for my question. Also, since he showed up with Aces on a two tone flop, and never raised, do you think we can lean toward him slow playing his flopped sets and possibly even 2 pair as well?

Posted 12 months ago

livebikebart

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Bart, I agree with the bet fold, but if a Queen comes on that river, and he's nitty, I don't know what you're beating except KJ which is less likely to be in his range. Do you make a smaller river bet on something like the Queen? I would be tempted to check it all together, unless I had a read I could make a blocking bet.

Edit: Made this comment before I saw the Queen come out lol. Perfect river card for my question. Also, since he showed up with Aces on a two tone flop, and never raised, do you think we can lean toward him slow playing his flopped sets and possibly even 2 pair as well?



Although i am a bit surprised that he didn't raise the flop he is definitely not slowplaying. He's just scared that I may have a set or two pair. If he flopped a set on such a wet board he definitely at least reaise the turn. i do like a smaller bet on the river.

Posted 12 months ago

surfdoc

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Time Link to 00:16:11

I like the way you manipulate the stacks here. I think you can save yourself a little money though in that you don't have to make it 700. The same thing gets accomplished with a minraise really and maybe even better since it will look so strong that you can still feel comfortable if you get backraised AI by one of the nits. NH though and I accept that I may be nitpicking a bit.

Posted 12 months ago

meowjr

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thejoker253

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I enjoy listening to your thought process, Bart. On the AK hand, against certain opponents are we ever OK in inducing a bluff if we think villain is on a draw here?

Posted 12 months ago

verygud

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Hey Bart

What are good winrates at 1/2 and 2/5 NL and what are top winrates at those same stakes? How many hours do you need to play to be fairly sure of those winrates?

Posted 12 months ago

I3betyoutillyoudie

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Time Link to 00:27:25

This AK hand are you even sure that this nity guy calls down 3 streets with a hand like KJ KQ obviously saying that the river was a blank. I just don't think nits call down 3 streets with those kinda hands. That being said i play 200nl online and have like never played live so i may be totally ignorant

Posted 12 months ago

Luceboy

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Even as a 6-max SNG player i found this particularly interesting. I dont happen to be deepstacked very often but am in total agreement with the "get max value with the nuts" philosophy. In addition i particularly liked youre assessment of JQ as a barrelling hand as it makes perfect sense... i cant believe that I hadnt thought of it like that before. Keep up the good work!

Posted 12 months ago

kaytor

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Time Link to 00:42:47

What do you think about shoving TT in the kid's spot ? Was the Chick so bad that she would call with two pair ?

If not I think it's a pretty good and sick bluff against a very good thinking player like you that is able to make big folds.

Posted 12 months ago

gus1112

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wow.... shocking how people playing 5/10 and above make some of the same mistakes i see at 1/2 and 2/5... i make that exact bluff play in the last J10sooted hand against donks at 1/2 and get mad when they call me with top pair or an overpair but Bart's point is spot on--- dont ask these guys to fold big pairs... rather make a hand and absolutely bomb it when you hit... you can crush live pokers simply being a nut peddler- than add in a few of bart and limon's tricks (hand reading, watching for preloading, knowing opponents who are capable of being semibluffed) and we can ramp up winrate... but whatever you do, do not ask these guys to fold

Posted 9 months ago



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