thomas12121
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Time Link to 00:12:21
I really disagree with the c-bet size you are suggesting. I would bet like 1400-1500 and not 1800 on this board with either sets or overpairs. IMO there is no hand that would make it oke to bet 1800+ on that board vs unknown.
Also I'm not sure why reraising pre is the best option here. There are no stats, so purely based on the open from midpos I would like a call better with 99 in pos with the stacksizes. The guessinggame on the flop is not a real problem imo, depending on the player you should be able to make good plays on flop considering betsizing and boardtextures.
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Yettiman
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Joined 09/2009
Time Link to 00:19:13
How would the play change (if at all) if the button's stack was the same or larger than yours? I find myself three betting here a lot against a bigger stack only to see them jam and me be forced to fold. I doubt calling off my remaining chips with A6 would be profitable. Would you still jam if the button had a larger stack than you?
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Yettiman
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Time Link to 00:29:07
If he called the turn thinking he was ahead, I'm pretty sure most average - good players with his stack size are going to call on the river. The two on the river changes nothing. No draw hits and he can't really put you on anything that connects with this board very often being that you flatted out of position. If his stack size was smaller then I can see him folding to a river bet. With the pot being what it is, you want to bet somewhere in the neighborhood of 4K or so. He can call and lose and still have around 12K. If he had 7k or 8K, a river bet would put more of his stack at risk.
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indi227
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DOMSTER
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Joined 02/2010
Time Link to 00:31:21
Bones,
nice comments througout the video. Nevertheless with your assesment of the deuces on the button i dont agree. Here is why.
In my opinion you clearly have two options - either raising and putting the BB for 9,5K all in - thus taking him the illusion of foldequity but risking to fold to a reraise by the SB. So not an optimal play but way bettet than raising to 2.5 BB and clearly inviting a shove from either BB or SB.
Or folding as strange as it sounds due to stacksizes and actually your bad cards. 22 is at best a coinflip against any other hand. If both blinds were shorts to medium stacks up to 15BB i would easily shove due to fold equity in this one I would op to fold.
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TheSwan69
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Joined 09/2010
Time Link to 00:43:56
I am having trouble seeing the issue with just flatting here on the flop with a set of 9s. He has such a big stack at this point in the tourny that any range of his that he is willing to raise with (including a bluff) we can assume he will continue with on the turn. And considering our "scare range" for the turn card is so small I am confused why we press a raise here instead of flatting. Or am I just being an idiot? lol thanks.
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Daponk
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I agree with Swan69; Isnt a flat much better to keep air in his range if he is aggro and will continue bluffs after checkraising the flop, Given the stack sizes and huge potsize and the 18% chance of a diamond hitting on the turn. Any medium or strong ace has a hard time folding so I think once he has checkraised the value checkraise hands want to get all in on the turn anyway. by reraising we lose his bluffing hands which he might continue to barrel with on the turn. The only hands he might checkraise and sometimes give up on a blank turn are flushdraws. The more optimal play seems to be flatting, looking at the results of him having Td8d is being results oriented.
I also hate the raise size, if we are going to raise its a JAM imo since we are NEVER reraising to 77K as a bluff therefore our hand range must be extremely strong and this turns our hand face-up into sets, two pair and sometimes AK,AQ...
If we can ever click back and fold then making it less as a reraise is fine, but with these stacksizes its a Jam since we would also rejam flushdraws some of the time.
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