Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by DeathDonkey (Mid Stakes)

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This one is fun (lower right table)

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Let me check what I had......

Obv DD is dead on for me with A7 (what is blue?)

Sad non-stop pwnage from DD for from the last comment till here

Finally FRIDAY !!!

Great vid DD, if I can say one thing it's run better imo

The only question I had is at the end of the video you said that you thought playing 35/25 was ok in these games, I was just wondering if maybe you ever considered tightening up and maybe stealing less. It just seemed like since you never showed down a hand they just got to 3bet you a lot pf and barrel off or c/r the flop and barrel off without much resistance.

I guess my main question is in sessions like these do you ever tighten up and showdown a few winners before you start loosening up again? just seemed like people had good incentive to play back at you since you were running 35/25 wtsd 27

EDIT: after rereading that it seemed worded weird I hope you understand what i'm asking

Let me check what I had......

Obv DD is dead on for me with A7 (what is blue?)

Sad non-stop pwnage from DD for from the last comment till here

Not a fan of your play with A7 there, I'd fold preflop (you were hijack) and would almost never 3 bet that flop. I think the thing about it is if that's your play with say gutshots and better, your range is super weak and I'll almost immediately start capping and leading turn in that spot, and you end up paying way too much for weak draws.

Hi ben,

Yeah its a good question, I definitely know what you mean. I think when running a little poorly (and watching back some of the video its funny that I also got lucky in some spots so its hard to say how 'bad' I was running, though clearly the results weren't in my favor), but I think people overadjust to this and stop doing stuff they know works for them. While I do believe your image is really important, and when playing 'LAGTAG' you want to have people not play back at you too much, as its much easier to just run them over and/or isolate fish, I don't know if this amount of time of play was really enough for people to be like "ooh he plays LAG but never has anything I'm going to crush him", they were just for the most part playing their hands, and they were often better than mine.

It just seemed like since you never showed down a hand they just got to 3bet you a lot pf and barrel off or c/r the flop and barrel off without much resistance.

I was wondering the same thing myself. DD, you say a few times that you have been a showdown monkey and therefore a certain spot is never a villain bluff. Your low WTSD seems to contradict that perception.

One thing that I notice is that sometimes when I am running bad, I feel like I am making hero calls and being a showdown monkey, and therefore start to make a lot of laydowns in spots where I think villain can never be bluffing. At the end of my session, I'll be shocked at my low WTSD, which leads me to believe that I was getting run over and not showing down enough.

I realize this is a very general statement and question, but any general advice for combating this situation? Besides the obvious run better ;-)

EDIT: oops, just realized you partially already answered this in the post above. Any additional thoughts would be interesting!

GREAT vid, btw imo

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For this A2s, what would be your action for the rest of his hand, had you been raised on this turn, on such a draw heavy board?

Is value checking the Turn/calling most rivers, a much horribly worse play here? I get the idea that you are generally in even WORSE shape against his range when CALLING a bet of his, and about not letting him draw for free. But, that was a pretty scary Turn card, and how do all the above factors weight against the penalty/cost of getting raised on the Turn?

BEAUTIFUL Value Bets, though!

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I personally don't think your river call was weak tight at all.
Against a competent guy or an unknown (which I'll generally give the tag title to unless anything prior has given me an indication he may not be) that can hand read it's most often going to be a full when he leads the river.
I think his lead with KJ was pretty pointless as your bluffs will fold and all your made hands that 3-bet the turn will be better then trips and call or much better then trips and raise.
The best thing he can really do is call your bet and hope your thin betting an overplayed Q or small K that you opened UTG? or catch a bluff from an AD semi-bluff type hand.
I basically think you made the correct move in the situation and you should really have a better idea of the particular guy before raising his river lead there so given that you made the best play.
I could be wrong though I haven't played at all in the past few days and feel like I'm new to poker again. Or maybe I'm weak tight too.

For this A2s, what would be your action for the rest of his hand, had you been raised on this turn, on such a draw heavy board?

Is value checking the Turn/calling most rivers, a much horribly worse play here? I get the idea that you are generally in even WORSE shape against his range when CALLING a bet of his, and about not letting him draw for free. But, that was a pretty scary Turn card, and how do all the above factors weight against the penalty/cost of getting raised on the Turn?

BEAUTIFUL Value Bets, though!

Well good questions, but the overwhelming factors in this hand were his short stack and the fact that he capped pre and then checked the flop. I feel like his range is extremely transparent there as AK, some under pair, or like top set. It's a pretty easy turn bet/fold against that range. The only factor that offsets that is his short stack, he might do something desperate, but in general I like bet/fold. I agree calling his bets at any point I am in worse shape because he clearly is just usually value betting there.

I think check behind turn and call river is the worst line because I have a pretty easy bet/fold, his hand is semi face up, and there are a ton of draws out that I can represent and get value while charging him to draw. If I check behind and river comes semi scary, he might even check/fold, so its a spot where the earlier I get the bets in the better.

Hi DD, Great vid

31 min: You timed out. You had Ah2c and the board was 8h4hJs4c. What was your plan for the rest of the hand. I am sure you were planning to call the turn since the villian could have a ton of draws and Kx and Qx hands in his range that he would be barrelling. Which cards on the river would make you fold? I suppose you wouldn't be super showdown here since you have no kicker and your opponent was fairly straightforward(I think).

37 MIN: I love your CR on the turn with A2 on the 4d8c8s2h2s board. Once you get 3b you are obviously in bad shape. Would you say this should be closer to a fold than a call? With this dry of a board, I think I would have folded. You could be drawing dread and have 4 outs at the most. Did you think there was a chance you were still in the lead? I suppose it is close getting 9-1.

Also, what do you think about going for a CR on the river? I agree, the villian shouldn't have too many 8s in his range and would certainly pay off with worse given the size of the pot. Obviously it would suck to get 3 bet. I think that 2 put you in pretty good shape.

Hi DD, Great vid

31 min: You timed out. You had Ah2c and the board was 8h4hJs4c. What was your plan for the rest of the hand. I am sure you were planning to call the turn since the villian could have a ton of draws and Kx and Qx hands in his range that he would be barrelling. Which cards on the river would make you fold? I suppose you wouldn't be super showdown here since you have no kicker and your opponent was fairly straightforward(I think).

Well I timed out because I wasn't sure what to do partially. I think the problem with calling the turn is I do have to call on a number of rivers, and I'm just not sure I'm in good enough shape with those effective odds. I guess I would fold a river K, Q, T, 9, since those are the worst for me and pay off on others. You are right that I wasn't happy about this spot vs such an opponent.

37 MIN: I love your CR on the turn with A2 on the 4d8c8s2h2s board. Once you get 3b you are obviously in bad shape. Would you say this should be closer to a fold than a call? With this dry of a board, I think I would have folded. You could be drawing dread and have 4 outs at the most. Did you think there was a chance you were still in the lead? I suppose it is close getting 9-1.

Also, what do you think about going for a CR on the river? I agree, the villian shouldn't have too many 8s in his range and would certainly pay off with worse given the size of the pot. Obviously it would suck to get 3 bet. I think that 2 put you in pretty good shape.

Yeah was a pretty interesting hand. I think I agree with you a fold is certainly not bad, my problem with it is if you make thin turn raises and then fold to 3 bets too often it becomes super easy for a bad player to accidentally play awesome against you by spewing. Also when people see the turn CRs with relatively weak hands, sometimes they think "well next time I have a draw I'm 3 betting he can't possibly call" so you induce that sort of play just by virtue of being in the spot. With the board being so dry and at the time me not feeling like he would play some pocket pairs that way (since he is fairly WA/WB in that spot) I am ok with the payoff.

Once I deuce out on the river, I did go for the CR and whiffed, but I'm fairly happy with it, and yes that was my plan. I think I pull ahead of too many big pairs, though I suppose a good player will maybe check something like TT since he only beats 4x. Weird spot given the board was sooooo dry.

40 MIN: You have AsQd the board is 5hTd7d6h.

I am curious how close you think your turn call is after being raised. You are getting slightly over 12-1. I estimate your equity is about 7%. I gave the button a 20% 3b range and the SB a 15% calling range. I took out QQ+ from the SBs range since he may have capped with these and took out JJ+ from Buttons range since he may have raised the flop with these. Obviously, if we add these hands in you are in worse shape. I gave the villians both heart draws and diamond draws.

Do these seem like reasonable assumptions?

I think this is a fold given that given that your implied odds are probably cancelled out by your reversed IO.

50 min: 8s2s 8cKs9s you chose to check to the limper because you think it is more profitable. Why do you think this?

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10:40

Upper right table. U decide to v-bet K5o on 7J5;7;8 vs Adam Schnlkkol after limp/call pf, XR flop, bet turn.

I think this v-bet is closer than it looks. U say u think opp is on the weak ight side. Now that 8 just hits ur range so incredibly well. Question is how many worse hands he will actually call with? Some worse fives I guess?

On the other hand XC looks pretty defensive so I doubt he bluffs much. Meh I guess BF is best.

56 MIN: You contemplate 3 betting with Q9o in SB against the button and say that it is close and you would against a bad player for value. I stoved this and the bad player would have to steal here 70% of the time for you to have value. I could understand making this play against a weaker non showdown bound player.

Perhaps there is something I am missing here.

Time Link to 00:23:16

i dunno i think i would have raised his river donk bet given the action ... if he was full i think he would go for the check raise since you 3-bet the turn so i feel his donk lead is just a naked king alot .. although raising and getting 3bet on the river is gross lol

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Upper right table. U dedend 99 in the vs Adam Schnobblor in the HJ. XC flop, XC turn on the board: 8d3s3h;Ac.

Any merit in XR this turn? My thinking is that all broadway combos will barell this turn but many of them will X down the river. By XC u give them a freeroll to beat u. And double so when u XF th river.

If we XR and he calls I guess we can XF the river given the dry board?

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Lower left QT vs IPL. U decide to call the river bet. My thinking is that IPL could have a pretty wide value betting range that X behind the turn (depending on how he plays), but probably not that many bluffs. It's tempting to fire again when a second bw falls to put pressure on ur Ax combos, which are a big part of ur range at this point. Hands he may X-behind turn and value bet are PP<JJ, maybe some badish Jx and AQ/AT I play like this sometimes myself.

My read is that u bet all ur pairs to get value from Ax?

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Awesome moment when DD tilts over all the donking !!!