I have never seen as sick a moment as this anywhere. sick sick sick.
(you know the hand I am referring to)
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I have never seen as sick a moment as this anywhere. sick sick sick.
(you know the hand I am referring to)
Sweet video Emil. With the T9o overbet, I can understand it on all non Kings or Jacks, but is the reason that you think it's a good (ish) spot on the Jack because it seems like a bad spot in your opponent's eyes?
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Another cool video.
Just wondering if you can talk a bit about the psychological battle after you show someone a huge overbet bluff. Do you look for spots soon after to overbet for value vs them while they're perhaps tilted, or do you expect them to anticipate you'll do that, so you can actually keep bluffing?
so sick... cool video as always. keep up the good work!
sweet vid Emil, def worth the wait.
In the 75s hand where you c/r the A75 flop, what do you do if he comes over the top? I think he only flats AK/AQ here 200bbs, so if you get it in you will be up against better hands and draws i guess?
great vid.. very good content
I'm having a hard time understanding the T9o hand - it seems really -EV to overbet shove this river against a decent opponent. The way I see it is:
In shoving that river for value, you can surely only be representing KK, 44, 55, KJ and maaaaaybe Jh5h? (I've removed any other Jx from your range as they'd likely check back the turn having gained showdown value vs the non-Kings in his range). Now going from what I see in his videos, I'd say a player like whitelime is rarely flatting any of these pocket pairs 200BB deep with position blind vs blind (though you can argue KJo might flat). By the river, assuming (as we did) our opponent has a K, we can have 3 combos of KJo in our range, and possibly KsJs that didn't reraise preflop, - this scenario relies on the fact we'd never raise KJo preflop, and the fact we'd always raise KJ on that board (which is also not a given).
Now comparing this to the other hands with which you would raise the flop, which are 54s 67s 78s K5s K4s Ac2c Ac3c, any flush draw, and a lot of air, our opponent is ahead of all of these on the river. With odds of 1:2 on a call, isn't any good opponent snapping you off here most the time?
isn't any good opponent snapping you off here most the time?
Not when he forgets to watch his time bank. ![]()
Now comparing this to the other hands with which you would raise the flop, which are 54s 67s 78s K5s K4s Ac2c Ac3c, any flush draw, and a lot of air, our opponent is ahead of all of these on the river. With odds of 1:2 on a call, isn't any good opponent snapping you off here most the time?
It isn't that simple, because if that would be true we could overbet shove this river for value with our nut hands 100% the time and get a huge amount of value from the top pair hand he almost has here. As long we are not overbet bluffing with all our air/missed draws in our range he is in a super hard spot.
ok, seems to me that i have a big problem:
i dont see why is the J river the worst card for our bluff?
Name one JX (not KJ obv) hand that he calls our flop raise! because i think we are making this play only to get him off any one pair king...
On the other hand, we can def have any JsXs, 55, 44 in our range.
A more suitable problem here is this: are we overbetting here with nuts also?
ok, seems to me that i have a big problem:
i dont see why is the J river the worst card for our bluff?
Name one JX (not KJ obv) hand that he calls our flop raise! because i think we are making this play only to get him off any one pair king...
On the other hand, we can def have any JsXs, 55, 44 in our range.
A more suitable problem here is this: are we overbetting here with nuts also?
when whitelime raises the flop its unlikely he has a J in his range other than some random J but even then if he was bluffing then just turned 1 pair he probably check the turn with showdown value. So there just arent many J's he shows up with there that make sense. so like he said its more of a psychological battle to see if that guy can call iwth KQor KT
I'm having a hard time understanding the T9o hand - it seems really -EV to overbet shove this river against a decent opponent. The way I see it is:
In shoving that river for value, you can surely only be representing KK, 44, 55, KJ and maaaaaybe Jh5h? (I've removed any other Jx from your range as they'd likely check back the turn having gained showdown value vs the non-Kings in his range). Now going from what I see in his videos, I'd say a player like whitelime is rarely flatting any of these pocket pairs 200BB deep with position blind vs blind (though you can argue KJo might flat). By the river, assuming (as we did) our opponent has a K, we can have 3 combos of KJo in our range, and possibly KsJs that didn't reraise preflop, - this scenario relies on the fact we'd never raise KJo preflop, and the fact we'd always raise KJ on that board (which is also not a given).
Now comparing this to the other hands with which you would raise the flop, which are 54s 67s 78s K5s K4s Ac2c Ac3c, any flush draw, and a lot of air, our opponent is ahead of all of these on the river. With odds of 1:2 on a call, isn't any good opponent snapping you off here most the time?
1) since whitelime's range is nuts or nothing he could get looked up by KQ or QQ-77 meaning his overbet value range isnt just boats but also slowplayed AA AK and any J
2) he doesnt always pot control a J..if he puts the guy on a K he might turn his J into a bluff and then rivers trips.
3) even at 5/10 people tend to try to avoid variance and just go with the safe play and fold
so its not as black and white as you think
...turned 1 pair he probably check the turn with showdown value. So there just arent many J's he shows up with there that make sense. ...
i disagree.
i bet turn with all my JhXh and my sets obv, cause we are deep and i wanna get staks in when i hit and i give him a chance to fold better.
its true that im almost always not betting that turn with pure bluffs tho
I was really hoping to see an overbet on the river with 33 on K6533. Thoughts?
I was really hoping to see an overbet on the river with 33 on K6533. Thoughts?
Shouldn't we be targeting villain's midrange hands rather than 55/66?
Emil,
You call with T8o in the Big Blind against a Small Blind raise, Blinds only, are you going to hit enough flops to make that profitable?
wouldn't it be better to bluff 3bet or fold?
I was really hoping to see an overbet on the river with 33 on K6533. Thoughts?
Villain was really tight in that hand and his hand strength is normally going to be weak/medium so I think an overbet in that spot is good as a bluff but not for value.
Emil,
You call with T8o in the Big Blind against a Small Blind raise, Blinds only, are you going to hit enough flops to make that profitable?
wouldn't it be better to bluff 3bet or fold?
We are going to win some money from being able to bluff w/ position also.
sweet vid Emil, def worth the wait.
In the 75s hand where you c/r the A75 flop, what do you do if he comes over the top? I think he only flats AK/AQ here 200bbs, so if you get it in you will be up against better hands and draws i guess?
I'm fine folding if he comes over the top. We simply don't have enough equity against his range. I agree he's just flatting ak/aq.
ok, seems to me that i have a big problem:
i dont see why is the J river the worst card for our bluff?
Name one JX (not KJ obv) hand that he calls our flop raise! because i think we are making this play only to get him off any one pair king...
On the other hand, we can def have any JsXs, 55, 44 in our range.
A more suitable problem here is this: are we overbetting here with nuts also?
The J just doesn't really improve our flop raising range as much as a lot of other cards do. It's unlikely to improve his hand too but the board just becomes kind of dry where we only have a few combos of hands that beat his likely K top pair.
insane video., I don't even recognize that game. God I am such a nit.
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On the 75 hand, why did you make your c/r 3x?
Seems like a spot where c/r more is better no?
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