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JT of black you 3ball the flop of Td9d7s. Even with all the backdoor possibilities i feel like this is a spot where ( i don't get in often) i could be more aggressive. I would have called here and i think alot of other 2/4 & 3/6 regs would as well. I like the play regardless of the results.
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I'm 15 min in and already giving it 5stars, even before the guest coaches come in. I just have to give you major props for your analysis of hands, villains and situations. Even if you spewed during the actual session, you have no remorse (no tilt!) and just explain the hand, catering to many different hero skill levels and even live play. sick, imo.
kittens, all that.
Awesome series. DC is the shit.
Kc2x in the bottom left at 15:00.
Balls, you play good.
I would have given villain a lot more credit here and probably played the hand very differently. The fact that villain called down with A-rag tells me that you owned him hard against a rather large portion of his range (all shitty A/Kx SD hands), imo.
On the flop, are you raising to clear up overs outs verses the third player?
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BigBadBabar
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JT of black you 3ball the flop of Td9d7s. Even with all the backdoor possibilities i feel like this is a spot where ( i don't get in often) i could be more aggressive. I would have called here and i think alot of other 2/4 & 3/6 regs would as well. I like the play regardless of the results.
yea, i feel like it's one of those spots where you're going to lose a stupid big pot a lot of the time but you're also going to win a stupid big pot every now and then and pwn everyone in the face when their silly draws don't get there. i mean, i has top pear. top. pear! and a gutshot! and there are like eighty other guys in the pot and they can't all have something.
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BigBadBabar
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I'm 15 min in and already giving it 5stars, even before the guest coaches come in. I just have to give you major props for your analysis of hands, villains and situations. Even if you spewed during the actual session, you have no remorse (no tilt!) and just explain the hand, catering to many different hero skill levels and even live play. sick, imo.
kittens, all that.
Awesome series. DC is the shit.
Kc2x in the bottom left at 15:00.
Balls, you play good.
I would have given villain a lot more credit here and probably played the hand very differently. The fact that villain called down with A-rag tells me that you owned him hard against a rather large portion of his range (all shitty A/Kx SD hands), imo.
On the flop, are you raising to clear up overs outs verses the third player?
BG
ty, i was pumped to win with the bottomest pear. flop i'm definitely raising for a ton of reasons; cleaning up outs is one. i have a super vulnerable made hand with little chance of improving. the pot is already big and it's multiway. i really want to raise here for protection and it's also somewhat for value. but just calling here lets a probable 6outer in, then the cbettor doesn't get punished either.
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Mike L once said to me after a live full-ring session..."if you folded 22/33 in the HJ (when folded to you) for rest of time, you would not be wrong."
I agree with him.
PS: why wasn't I invited?
yea agree, normally i fold 22-33 like they're hot but sometimes in lagbot mode i forget!
honest reason i didn't invite more people is that i slept til 5 and then realized i needed to make and send the video in asap and didn't wanna track everyone down. mike was already in the room 
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BigBadBabar
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Upper right table, what's your continuation range here once it's raised? Do you call if the 2
is out there rather than the 2
?
Rob
good question; pretty interesting spot imo. i used always to check3bet here basically any hand i'd continue with but lately i've been experimenting with coldcalling some and seeing what happens behind me. i know you've talked about this some in the past as well. i'm not sure if i've worked out balanced ranges as far as what i'm coldcalling and what i'm 3betting, but my continuation range in some form or another would be good tens, openenders, overpairs, probably some overs+guts like KJ, and maybe hands with two overs and a bdfd although the pf action might have been different with those. and obviously big made hands like 2pair+...
i think in general check3betting a lot of my range is fine here though, especially with a hand like qjo, since i could potentially knock out utg's better overcards and clean up a ton of outs
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if it were the 2
it would make it closer for me and i'd have to give a really hard look to calling. i'm getting what, 19:4 which is a little less than 5:1...
give me about 1 out for the bdfd, 1 for the bdsd, 2 more for trip nines, and 3 for eights. even discounting a bit from 7 it's reasonable to say 5 outs and pretty good implied odds...
i think even then, folding would probably be fine, since i have a nitty utg guy who likes his hand okay so far, and a passive guy on the button who *really* likes his hand; if i can avoid a situation where i have to get trapped in the middle and draw for a million bets then i'm happy to do so
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BBB When You said Cold Calling in The SB with T9s is not a play you should do. What is a better play 3 betting? To knock out BB and get heads up? 1:09:10
Also I 3 bet JTo in the Sb against a CO open and posted it on 2+2 and people said thats a bad play don't do it. I thought it was better than calling as you said CC Sb is a bad play and its a too strong of a hand to fold with. Any comments?
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BBB When You said Cold Calling in The SB with T9s is not a play you should do. What is a better play 3 betting? To knock out BB and get heads up? 1:09:10
Also I 3 bet JTo in the Sb against a CO open and posted it on 2+2 and people said thats a bad play don't do it. I thought it was better than calling as you said CC Sb is a bad play and its a too strong of a hand to fold with. Any comments?
Thanks
JTo isn't really "too strong to fold," especially as the SB vs the CO. I'd usually fold it but when I'd 3-bet it, it wouldn't be because of my hand itself (though that matters) but moreso that I think the opponent who is raising preflop plays badly enough postflop that I want to get HU with him, even with a marginal hand. You're looking for opponents in this spot who fold very easily, because then you can use the initiative to take down the pot more quickly/easily postflop.
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BigBadBabar
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rob nailed it - one other thing to keep in mind is that there's no such thing as a hand that's 'too strong to fold' or 'too weak to play.' it really always (almost always) depends on the situation. if a 40/30 opens then A9o is too strong not to 3bet, and if a 4/3 opens then AJo is too weak to play. if a really aggro guy opens the button and he's not very showdown bound, then a lot of hands become profitable 3bets.
the problem with coldcalling is it just doesn't do anything positive for you. you're out of position. you put a lot of money in the pot. you don't show aggression or strength. you turn your handrange face up for the most part as a certain kind of smallmid pair or smallmid connector. you have to checkfold a lot of flops when you whiff.
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This tilts me so much. A post is not dead money. It plays for the person who put it in the pot. Dead money is money that is in the middle that doesn't play for anyone, such as when you post a dead SB or buy the button (in which case 4 of your chips are live and 2 are dead).
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don't make me post the angry emails you've sent me about this!
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BigBadBabar
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You really think the KJo hand is close to at 3 bet? This is a 9/6 (admittedly over a small sample but still...over 35 hands if you have 9/6 he's not gonna turn out to be a 35/25) opening the lowjack. I think this is an insta-fold.
yea i ended up folding both in video and deciding on a fold in post-video voiceover. i think 3bet is certainly better than coldcall but probably slightly -ev for sure. if you stove this spot how is kjo doing? he's probably not going to turn out to be 9/6 but i agree he'll be tight.
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