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From a Donk to a Stud: Episode Five

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From a Donk to a Stud: Episode Five by Joe Tall, danzasmack

In this episode Joe takes his donk (danzasmack) and coaches him at 7 card stud hi.

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Joe Tall teaches other games each week through an engaging PowerPoint presentation. Stud Hi, O8, Stud 8 and Razz. Ever get bored with Hold'em and wondered why the Big Game in Bobby's room is always mixed? Yeah, we did too. Watch Joe equip you with the tools to hold your own.

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  • Game: mixed
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 71 minutes long
  • Posted almost 4 years ago

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Comments for From a Donk to a Stud: Episode Five

Ulkis

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Another good video. About memorizing dead cards----surely online one can write the cards down to a piece of paper? Only takes a couple of seconds.

Posted over 4 years ago

Nexus

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Another good video. About memorizing dead cards----surely online one can write the cards down to a piece of paper? Only takes a couple of seconds.



I did this the first few times I played stud online, but I guess its better to get into the habit of remembering the dead cards - it keeps your mind active and obviously would help live. Then again if you're multitabling I think making a note of the cards would be a simple way of doing it. 2+2 has a post about tips for improving your memory for these situations http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=94469

Posted over 4 years ago

Joe Tall

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Another good video. About memorizing dead cards----surely online one can write the cards down to a piece of paper? Only takes a couple of seconds.



Here's the real deal, boys (yes, this is where my technique originated):

Science of Memory Part 1
Science of Memory Part 2

Posted over 4 years ago

Joe Tall

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Another good video. About memorizing dead cards----surely online one can write the cards down to a piece of paper? Only takes a couple of seconds.



It's going to be be faster and better practice to go about it the real way. You'll find you'll be concentrating on writing it down more than playin the hand, or at least I did when I attempted this until I trained myself to do it. It takes practice, practice, practice! I can play 7 hours of live stud and likely recall 4 or 5 hands to the tee that played after my session and I was fumbling w/a pen and paper 2 years ago.

Posted over 4 years ago

bottomset

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Another good video. About memorizing dead cards----surely online one can write the cards down to a piece of paper? Only takes a couple of seconds.


Here's the real deal, boys (yes, this is where my technique originated):

Science of Memory Part 1
Science of Memory Part 2



nice

Posted over 4 years ago

Ulkis

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Hi bottomset, I enjoyed your FR NL videos at 2+2, and would like to see more of those. I actually watched again the 25NL 2tabling one earlier today. I really love it when you get in a tight spot and start hyperventilating, like this is not supposed to happen at 25NL. Fear not, I recommended you highly to Joe Tall, so no worries there.

What applies to you, and also some lower limit DC NL videos I've seen, both have mentioned couple times that "at these limits" and along these lines, like you expect the opponents to be soft. I on the other hand have found that every shot I've taken at 100NL and 200NL the opposition has been softish, but it is 50NL and 25NL where they crucify you if you cbet/ they call/ you check on the turn...they will bet you now when they have seen weakness...the bloody hyenas. I just have this idea which of cource could be totally wrong that at 25NL and 50NL the players are grinders and pretty solid but if you move up you can find more easily some proper fish just gambling during the weekend. Putting 25 bucks down, nawwwhh! I want to gamboool 200 bucks.

The other explation is everytime I go to higher limits I luck out on table selection.

Would be interesting to see a video addressing this vs. FR.

Bottomset, I don't know at which level you are now playing but you should make a video of that, it should be good.

Posted over 4 years ago

ceegee

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Great video.
One thing to point out is in the 3 flush 578 at 52:00ish you state he has 11 outs when he really has 7 outs which makes it much worse to call

Posted about 4 years ago

BrassMonkey

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Not a bad video, but can you guys try not to talk over each other so much? A good bit of the commentary sounded like clumps of overlapped mumbling followed by grunts of agreement.

Posted almost 4 years ago

KidKagoule

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Joe Tall

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http://www.playrealpokeronline.com/downloads/cardkeeper.exe
http://www.billsias.com/poker.html
Two freeware programs to track dead cards



Not really confident of the ethics of these. Its been debated in forums for some time, I do believe it might against the T&C of some sites. The best players have the cards down by using what's between their ears. With good discipline and practice, you can do the same.

Posted over 3 years ago

777group

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Time Link to 00:10:45

are we opening 7a7 here with one 7 dead? folding k7k...

Posted over 1 year ago

777group

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777group

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Time Link to 00:35:48

ProPokerTools Stud Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
dead cards: kSpade5Spade3Spade6Spade8Heart
*as|ac 49.86% (299,136 wins, 9 ties)
qcqs|3c 20.01% (120,070 wins, 27 ties)
qd9d|6d 30.13% (180,763 wins, 26 ties)

why is raising good 3way on 3rd?

Posted over 1 year ago

Joe Tall

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are we opening 7a7 here with one 7 dead? folding k7k...



We would never be folding Ks there, it will be the best hand by far too often. 7A7 is fine if you are in a higher ante structure game and know your image will garner some folds.

Posted over 1 year ago

Joe Tall

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calling is standard here? looks lose



Standard for this situation because:

1. A loose agressive active player raised 3rd.
2. Aces, Jacks, and clubs are live.
3. We are the bring-in getting a great price.

Posted over 1 year ago

Joe Tall

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ProPokerTools Stud Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
dead cards: kSpade5Spade3Spade6Spade8Heart
*as|ac 49.86% (299,136 wins, 9 ties)
qcqs|3c 20.01% (120,070 wins, 27 ties)
qd9d|6d 30.13% (180,763 wins, 26 ties)

why is raising good 3way on 3rd?




The ranges you have used are exceedingly tight. FWIW, I advocate opening first in, and since Chuck did not do that and he limped his hand plays differently. However here is a better range analysis to use:

ProPokerTools Stud Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
dead cards: kSpade5Spade3Spade6Spade8Heart
9+9+,*a, 22-AA, BB, *s*s|as 37.71% (226,205 wins, 79 ties)
ZZ, 33-QQ,*c*c,|3c 26.41% (158,433 wins, 47 ties)
qd9d|6d 35.88% (215,263 wins, 72 ties)

Posted over 1 year ago

777group

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We would never be folding Ks there, it will be the best hand by far too often. 7A7 is fine if you are in a higher ante structure game and know your image will garner some folds.




oh I ment K77. But it s a fold.

Posted over 1 year ago



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