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The Haj School: Episode Three

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The Haj School: Episode Three by WiltOnTilt

Welcome to 3rd period, topic is Forums. WiltOnTilt and 2fouroffsuit talk about forums, how to read them, how to properly post, and how to get the most out of your time on the forums.

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  • 67 minutes long
  • Posted over 2 years ago

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Comments for The Haj School: Episode Three

Pacer

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726 posts
Joined 07/2008

Haj is actually pronounced exactly like high so no need to try making it sound exotic Wink

Posted almost 3 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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2185 posts
Joined 10/2007

i like pronouncing it 8 different ways even though i know it's "high" Smile

Posted almost 3 years ago

Acombfosho

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17mins in - I realised that I need to post WINNING hands more, not just losing hands.. that way people will have to think abit more about their answer, and I dont just then post bad beat/cooler hands. Plus I get to learn how to maximise profits! Nice tip!

I also realised that I post like 4-5 of my key hands each session, and that it clogs up the forum, so I will now only post 2 hands on DC, and move the other posts to PokerSavvy and 2+2 to get more of a balance, though I am not sure 2+2 uNL is as good as it once was, what is your take on this WoT?

Thanks for the series so far, lookin fwd to the rest of the vid

Posted almost 3 years ago

xerocat

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689 posts
Joined 03/2008

Acombfosho, if you like posting hands after sessions but don't want to flood, one of the best things you can probably do (and may be doing) is to find a very active player to regularly swap lots of hand histories or IM about hands. Together you could probably figure out at least, say 2 of the 4 hands, leaving the last 2 for you to post up.

Posted almost 3 years ago

elcholodeamor

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132 posts
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Acombfosho I saw you posting on some hands today, I feel we are *close enough* the same ability? Ill send you a PM with my AIM and email. Feel free to send me some hand histories and some contact so I can do the same.

Posted almost 3 years ago

elcholodeamor

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Should we be using value laden terms for our villains like "huge donk" or "totally clueless"?

Posted almost 3 years ago

2fouroffsuit

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Should we be using value laden terms for our villains like "huge donk" or "totally clueless"?



As we mentioned, the more info that you can include that is relevant, the better. When dealing with bad players, the main factor that my decisions hinge upon is whether they are passive or aggressive. Identifying this and adding it into your description will help you get much better responses. Whether you include, "donk", "fish", or whatever your descriptors are, in there, that's entirely up to you. But if that's all you include, you probably won't generate the quality of responses that you'd like.

Posted almost 3 years ago

Sugar Nut

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17mins in - I realised that I need to post WINNING hands more, not just losing hands.. that way people will have to think abit more about their answer, and I dont just then post bad beat/cooler hands. Plus I get to learn how to maximise profits! Nice tip!

I also realised that I post like 4-5 of my key hands each session, and that it clogs up the forum, so I will now only post 2 hands on DC, and move the other posts to PokerSavvy and 2+2 to get more of a balance, though I am not sure 2+2 uNL is as good as it once was, what is your take on this WoT?



I personally don't mind how many hands someone posts as long as the hands are interesting. That might be personal preference though.

Should we be using value laden terms for our villains like "huge donk" or "totally clueless"?



When I post hands I generally try and put as little stats as possible into the description of villain. I always try hard to describe them with words. While poker is math a lot (analytical) it is also art (creative) and I think in today's games you'll have to be creative and get away from the "2p2 standard" more and more. Describing villains using words rather than numbers will stimulate your own creativity and that of the ppl who reply to your thread.

The same hand post (title: "100NL 170BB deep - Call 3B IP QTs vs LAG, turn OESFD")could start like this:

villain is 29/25 3bet: 9 over 1,200 hands

Or like this:

Villain is fairly laggy, 3bets a ton in position but seems to skew his OOP 3betting range more towards value hands. Not sure tho, since I heven't seen many showdowns from him after 3betting OOP only AK once and QQ once, both bet/called by him with TPTK/overpair respectively.

Posted almost 3 years ago

GonnaBe

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LOVING this series. Should be mandatory viewing to ALL new DC members at sign up. I have found myself falling into too many of the mistakes you've mentioned regarding wanting to be "spoon-fed" etc. Have made myself a contract that states I can't play a single hand for the day without having watched at least one good video (preferably more). I've played for years and have gotten lazy about doing the "work" but since this series started, and I've gotten back to paying my dues by working at taking time to study more, AMAZINGLY my A game is back! Please keep these coming, because if we're not working at getting better, you can rest assured, our opponents are!

Posted almost 3 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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2185 posts
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LOVING this series. Should be mandatory viewing to ALL new DC members at sign up. I have found myself falling into too many of the mistakes you've mentioned regarding wanting to be "spoon-fed" etc. Have made myself a contract that states I can't play a single hand for the day without having watched at least one good video (preferably more). I've played for years and have gotten lazy about doing the "work" but since this series started, and I've gotten back to paying my dues by working at taking time to study more, AMAZINGLY my A game is back! Please keep these coming, because if we're not working at getting better, you can rest assured, our opponents are!



Thrilled you're enjoying the series. Thanks!

With all of your hard work, I suspect you're "GonnaBe" crushing very soon!

WoT

Posted almost 3 years ago

The Feed

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Great series, I am really learning how to learn to be a better player.

I have been toying with the idea of setting a goal of posting x amount of hands per week, in order to keep me thinking away from the table and active in the DC community. Any thoughts on this? Has anyone done something similar and how many posts/replies did you shoot for?

thanks

Posted almost 3 years ago

Thomics

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Time Link to 00:31:08

Here you are discussing "read the entire thread before asking questions"

Do you think that it would be better to read the OP and formulate your own thoughts before you read over other posters responses? That is what I've been doing so far. I do it that way so my opinion isn't swayed by the other posters in the thread. I like to write out a response and then read the thread before posting to make sure I'm not just reiterating another posters view point.

Thanks

Posted about 2 years ago

JoeShowdown

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I completely agree that is an excellent way of posting thomics. A little about me - I won 6 months free from the twitter poker tour bad beat on cancer charity tournament and have been watching a few videos here per day. This is the first time I seen a comment that is only a few hours old. I'm glad I found this series and would have hoped to have seen it earlier. I kinda been going through the series list randomly and this is definitely a series that should be watched first.

Some series I think should be watched by the new members (that I have encountered so far) :

The Haj School
The Math of NLH
The +Evolution of a Poker Player

Posted about 2 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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Here you are discussing "read the entire thread before asking questions"

Do you think that it would be better to read the OP and formulate your own thoughts before you read over other posters responses? That is what I've been doing so far. I do it that way so my opinion isn't swayed by the other posters in the thread. I like to write out a response and then read the thread before posting to make sure I'm not just reiterating another posters view point.

Thanks




Yes i think this is a good method too.

Posted about 2 years ago

Harleymann51

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Time Link to 00:14:15

So how do you suggest that we post live hands? Do you go over this later?

Posted almost 2 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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So how do you suggest that we post live hands? Do you go over this later?




I dont think I talked about it in these videos, but I would just post them the best you can with as much information as you can.

You could also take an online hand history you played that is similar and change the board texture or bet sizes as appropriate and then put it into the DC hand converter.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Harleymann51

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kgbmiked

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At about 51:20 we decide we are more inclined to take a bet/fold line against a good player and that maybe we should have taken a c/c line here against this player we are presuming to be not that good. I really liked your reasoning and think it is a great idea to do this when a river card does not likely help the villain. However, in this situation I am wondering if it is better to still take the bet/fold line because of all of the JT combos that hit with the river 7. We were talking about taking a c/c line on the river because we believe a weaker player will call more on the turn with drawing hands like 67s, JT and Diamonds,and will be more inclined to bluff when he misses. But, since his JT combos hit with the river 7 don't we have to take the same bet/fold line we would against a solid reg who is not calling with those weak draws and is more likely to have a bluff catch hand like AQ. I think if we expect him to have less diamond combos here then bluff catch combos then we should take the bet/fold line like we would against a reg. If we take the c/c line he now is not bluffing if he has JT and he probably is not bluffing if he had 67. He may bluff with missed flush. If we take the bet/fold line he is raising with JT and maybe calling with AQ, AK and every once in a while 67.

Is a check/fold possible with this reasoning?(too tired to think about it)

Posted over 1 year ago

JimmyTheGent

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At 00:57:55 Why would the villian overbet so much. Should he not have bet say a pot size to induce the hero if the villain had the nuts and then re-raise

Posted over 1 year ago

ocd193

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Ok here is an embarising question. How do you get your hands from hem or poker client to the hand converter. Ive been wondering this forever and haven't figured it out.

Posted 12 months ago

2fouroffsuit

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Right click on the hand history in HEM and there should be a "copy hands to clipboard" option. Then paste it into the hand converter.

Similarly, most poker clients display the hand history in the form that the hand converter can read so just copy the whole thing and paste it in. The ones that run into trouble are the ones that display images of cards or summarizes action weird like Cake I think does. I think that Cake hands should be fine though if you do them through HEM.

Posted 12 months ago



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