I sadly didn't bring enough funny to the table in this one.

So here's something for y'all to keep you satiated between now and next week:

Three cowboys are sitting around a campfire, out on the lonesome prairie, each with the bravado for which cowboys are famous.

A night of tall tales commences.

The first says, "I must be the meanest, toughest cowboy there is. Why, just the other day, a bull got loose in the corral and gored six men before I wrestled it to the ground, by the horns, with my bare hands."

The second chimes in, "Why that's nothing. I was walking down the trail yesterday and a fifteen foot rattler slid out from under a rock and made a move for me. I grabbed that snake with my bare hands, bit its head off, and sucked the poison down in one gulp. And I'm still here today."

The third cowboy remained silent, slowly stirring the coals with his penis.

At the beginning there is the 89s hand you raise UTG and get called by Crush And Kill.
When you make that third barrel on the river leaving yourself with 500 behind, if he shoves I assume you still fold despite getting ridiculus odds to call?

22:00, you say you can call with 66 for setvalue, however we just learned from sthief09 you definately don't have odds just to call for setvalue. So I assume you mean you can just call in position for setvalue + favorable boards? :) (nice calldown on the turn btw :)). I assume you would fold OOP vs him?

Most important thing I learned is that I need to start slowrolling shortstacks ;)

Very solid vid, can't wait for next week... It's like watching a tv-show and each week you can't wait for the next ep to air. :)

another very very good video

sidenote, I will be incredibly disappointed if one of the challenges isn't you 2 HU vs each other(though I suspect its the last one) if it isn't there is plenty of time to get it scheduled :)

This series is easily the best videos I have seen in a very long time. Can't wait till next week again.

Sick call in the 66 hand. You read the situation perfectly and had the balls to follow through with it.

I didn't like the river VB in the 89s hand near the beginning. I don't think you're ahead >50% when called(or raised). Few worse pairs are possible even if he calls 77-55:

Board: Tc 8d 6h 4h 2s

equity win
Hand 0: 40.909% 36 { 98s }
Hand 1: 59.091% 52 { 99, 77, 55, ATs, KTs, QTs, JTs, T9s }

When you add the possibility that he's slowplaying(on a close to ideal slowplaying board), the bet looks ugly to me. Because the flop was T42(IIRC), there aren't many more worse pairs I could conceivably add to stretch his calling range since he was 23/18 and cold called your EP raise.

I agree with your post-hand analysis in the KQ hand vs. DMoogle. I like checking turn/folding to river bet because I think his range is just too tight to value bet profitably.

Hey Jeff, I think my equity is slightly better against his range since I think I can potentially exclude AT and KT some of the time (theyd reraise pre or raise the flop, some of the time). I agree it's razor thin either way but even if we're looking at his range as you lay out, I think I still stand by the commentary in that I believe the meta-theory behind the bet makes the play preferable to checking, specifically at the beginning of the session. Well, so long as you make the correct adjustments if he calls and wins, if he calls and loses, or if he folds.

As you'll see in the next two episodes, I get under that guy's skin :-)

Another good vid.

Now post your PAHUD layout already!

There are a few free upload sites out there like megaupload.com, etc. Otherwise feel free to look up the email address on my account if you want to send it that way.

I haven't seen or figured out of DC Forums have a private message feature?

Another good vid.

Now post your PAHUD layout already!

There are a few free upload sites out there like megaupload.com, etc. Otherwise feel free to look up the email address on my account if you want to send it that way.

I haven't seen or figured out of DC Forums have a private message feature?

I sent it to Entity to get up for people somewhere last night, so we should have it up today!

No PM feature planned, but once the forums are tweaked a bit more I'm sure we will talk about adding some more popular ones.

i love your philosophy on slowrolling shortstacks :D

Great vid.
Can you go back to the hand on the left table at the 15 min mark where Crush and Kill runs that allin bluff against I101? You misread the action when recording and yeah a calldown with a J there would be awful but what about him turning his very weak hand into a bluff on that turn? What would you do on that flop: raise the SB's donk bet, fold to the PFR's raise or call?

Loving this new site! Awesome videos!!!

I'm pretty surprised you decided to push KQ AI (vs the 9s). Just wondering what type of hand you expect will call your push?

Personally I think I would often check the flop. It's quite dry and it seems like a wa/wb situation. But then again I don't play those stakes and my image def isn't as aggressive as yours...

Loving this new site! Awesome videos!!!

I'm pretty surprised you decided to push KQ AI (vs the 9s). Just wondering what type of hand you expect will call your push?

Personally I think I would often check the flop. It's quite dry and it seems like a wa/wb situation. But then again I don't play those stakes and my image def isn't as aggressive as yours...

I explained pretty clearly in the audio what hands I expect to call - and I also say I think I misplayed this one. Will go over it in my PT review following the challenge.

Checking the flop would be terrible given his preflop calling range and my image.

Prison Break Season 1 was awesome, btw.

Alright the 98s hand. This doesn't make sense. You claim he is never folding a Ten on the river, but you second barrel the turn attempting to push him off a Ten (among other hands). I mean, which is it? You really think if he calls the turn with a Ten that he is always calling it on the river? Plenty of people, including me and yourself, will call the turn with an okay made hand and then fold to a 3rd barrel on the river.

I don't necessarily dislike the 3 barrels, but I think that river is for sure a bluff and not a value bet unless you have some reads that we didn't know about.

Alright the 98s hand. This doesn't make sense. You claim he is never folding a Ten on the river, but you second barrel the turn attempting to push him off a Ten (among other hands). I mean, which is it? You really think if he calls the turn with a Ten that he is always calling it on the river? Plenty of people, including me and yourself, will call the turn with an okay made hand and then fold to a 3rd barrel on the river.

I don't necessarily dislike the 3 barrels, but I think that river is for sure a bluff and not a value bet unless you have some reads that we didn't know about.

it was a value bet. if you don't understand why, watch the video again and listen closely.

I don't bet the turn ever intending to push anyone off a ten. Of course they might fold a ten on the river, but that's never my intention in betting that street.

Alright the 98s hand. This doesn't make sense. You claim he is never folding a Ten on the river, but you second barrel the turn attempting to push him off a Ten (among other hands). I mean, which is it? You really think if he calls the turn with a Ten that he is always calling it on the river? Plenty of people, including me and yourself, will call the turn with an okay made hand and then fold to a 3rd barrel on the river.

I don't necessarily dislike the 3 barrels, but I think that river is for sure a bluff and not a value bet unless you have some reads that we didn't know about.

it was a value bet. if you don't understand why, watch the video again and listen closely.

I don't bet the turn ever intending to push anyone off a ten. Of course they might fold a ten on the river, but that's never my intention in betting that street.

You say "his most likely hand here is a Ten or a Pocket Pair" then go on to say "I'm going to try to barrel him off". So you think he is only folding those pocket pair and "weak ace" hands? I agree, but it didn't quite sound like that at all on the video as you list a Ten in his hands then say you are going to barrel him off of it.

On the river, you say "I put him on a Ten, pocket 5's, 3s, or 7s". You are crushed by that range if you are going for a purely value bet and if that range is accurate you aren't winning 50% of the time you are called. Then you even mention that he could be slow-playing a set, which makes things even worse for you in the value-betting department.

I watched and listened again. You listed 3 hands which have 6 combos each (18 combos total) that you can beat and which honestly are unlikely to call a 3/4 pot bet on the river anyway vs 60 combos of tens that he can possibly have here (of course, you have to discount some of them as he may fold some and he may 3-bet some). So even if you 50% discount a ten and assume he always calls with these pocket pairs, you are still down 18 combos to 30 combos if you assume he calls with any PP or any ten, which seems to be the assumption you made for calling this a value-bet. And that doesn't even mention those few set combos he may have.

There is just no way this hand is a pure value-bet. I can't listen anymore closely as I've just re-said what you said in the video. And it doesn't add up. Maybe I'm missing something huge here. Please explain?


All of that said, I do like the river as a bluff unless he really likes showdown, but that isn't the way you presented the hand in the video. Just trying to help everyone learn and provide some feedback, try not to get an attitude with your customers. Good business practices, etc.

hey Krantz, I thought this one was a lot better w/o all the funny so don't sweat it. Funny is funny but knowledge bombz = monies.

Also, I agree your image was probably looser than I was thinking, and I was thinking about the river bet with a more tight image which I would usually have.

GREAT video ( as whitelime also).

Actually really really great valuebet w\ 98s. Though i think this concept is pretty hard for medium players nl400-600, who doesn't know what is it to be agressive player and how to use your image. I think after this one hand i add +1%-2% to my poker skill :)

Krantz, you talked about the player flawless victory in your first video can you please post some links of his articles/strategy guides he has, thanks.

Not that it makes any difference now. But in the pot with Crush And Kill, versus random numbers and letters-guy, he doesn't call a shove on the river, he donks turn when the flush hits after calling the re-raise on the jtt flop, then he bluffs the river with the rest of his stack (except 50) which he calls with, when random numbers and letters-guy puts his stack in. I'm guessing that your note on him wouldn't look quite the same if you noticed. Nice video though.

Not that it makes any difference now. But in the pot with Crush And Kill, versus random numbers and letters-guy, he doesn't call a shove on the river, he donks turn when the flush hits after calling the re-raise on the jtt flop, then he bluffs the river with the rest of his stack (except 50) which he calls with, when random numbers and letters-guy puts his stack in. I'm guessing that your note on him wouldn't look quite the same if you noticed. Nice video though.


As I noted earlier in this thread, I misread the hand. It's still a very bad play and doesn't change my note much at all.

My bad, I missed those posts but I saw them now. And I agree, the play is terrible. I'm assuming that he either thought the guy was bluffing or that he could get him off trips if the flush-card fell.

x-posted from high stakes:

Hey Krantz-

Really like the site so far, looking forward to new content.

In the second episode of lime slicer, you mention that you used to be really "paranoid" and would spew off a lot of money 5 bet bluffing but you learned to get over it. I feel like this is my biggest leak- when I'm playing other good, aggressive players I get impatient and I don't wait for hands. I tend to assume everyone's bluffing at me so I overadjust and really start spewing whether it's 5bet bluffing or making ridiculously loose calls. I rationalize it as a solid adjust in my head when I do it, but when it comes down to it, it's just bad tilty -ev poker. Can you give any advice on how you managed to get past the paranoia and/or feeling like you were always getting outplayed? Thanks.

Great vid, learning a ton here.

One comment on the AJ hand. You raise in EP, villain calls BTN. You c-bet a T77 flop, he calls. The turn is a 9. You check, he bets. You then say something like: he will check his pocketpairs behind, so he must have a big T or better. But i think it isn't unlikely that he bets pp 22-66 here for protection, since another T or 9 will counterfeit his hand, which is 6 more outs for him to lose the hand against A-high.