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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by BalugaWhale (High Stakes)

Hey Baluga, nice vid.

what did kovy end up having in that spot when yongsuk c/c the river?

also, i noticed you seem to 3bet larger when IP, and smaller when OOP, often 120 from 30 IP and 115 from 30 OOP, can you explain this? Seems like many players take the opposite approach.

kovy had a set of deuces

120 was deeper stacked (when calling is more likely), 115 is 100bb i believe

I find it interesting that you are debating to ship KTs here so hard, while all we have actually seen from him so far is giveups against you.

Isn't it flawed to see him fold to your 3bets (assuming he does this with air) and then start thinking about shipping relativly light against his first 4bet?

We have no reason to assume he is 4bet bluffing here.

Can you please expand on why you thought about 5betting it in there given the current dynamic?

this was largely predicated on having seen him 4-bet like 3 times right when i sat down (before the vid started).

that said, it wasn't *that* close and i talked about it mostly because its a spot where if my hand was slightly better i actually need to consider shoving in a spot where most players instamuck.

Andrew

Time Link to 00:39:51

You're talking about the hand in the top left corner as if you were the preflop raiser. But you actually called preflop, and he didnt c-bet this board.. Would this make you more likely to keep barreling here?

You're talking about the hand in the top left corner as if you were the preflop raiser. But you actually called preflop, and he didnt c-bet this board.. Would this make you more likely to keep barreling here?

ah you're right. in truth it doesn't change the action a ton, just that he's *slightly* more likely to call down after c/c as PFR than as preflop caller.

the reason why we can't just keep betting at this is because he's checking in order to play against a much wider range than he would if he bet. This plan works if we bet all our air and stuff and keep firing. The plan doesn't work is we restrict our turn bets to normal stuff-- value bets and hands with strong equity. Also, the more air we rep the worse if we're bluffing, the more value hands we can have the better. on that turn, we don't really pick up many extra value hands.

Andrew

very n1 one sir! a lot of interesting stuff that you talk about and you seem to play very focussed (other than in other vids from the past)

I got a question regarding the betsize on the turn in the [Time Link to 00:45:39] A3 hand vs ameXcenturion:

do you use this betsize all the time for all 4 dif. type of hands (flush, set, TP, air) that you name after you c/r the flop and the Turn completes flushdraw? against an unknown, seemingly straight forward regular, how would you proceed on the river with the dif. holdings?
And if the Turn bricks , which betsize would you use with the diferent holdings if you decide to bet? would you bet everything exept the airballs?

And another theme-related question: I' ve got the impression that nowadays most ppl don't c/r their flushdraws all that often or if they do they don't bet the Turn with a high freq. because it became kind of a popular line for the PFR to call the Flopraise, then shove over the turnbet with TP and better. What do you think about that/ can you confirm this? How do you propose to handle the spot in the preflop-caller's shoes?

thx in advance and hoping for more great vids in the near future

very n1 one sir! a lot of interesting stuff that you talk about and you seem to play very focussed (other than in other vids from the past)

I got a question regarding the betsize on the turn in the [Time Link to 00:45:39] A3 hand vs ameXcenturion:

do you use this betsize all the time for all 4 dif. type of hands (flush, set, TP, air) that you name after you c/r the flop and the Turn completes flushdraw? against an unknown, seemingly straight forward regular, how would you proceed on the river with the dif. holdings?
And if the Turn bricks , which betsize would you use with the diferent holdings if you decide to bet? would you bet everything exept the airballs?

And another theme-related question: I' ve got the impression that nowadays most ppl don't c/r their flushdraws all that often or if they do they don't bet the Turn with a high freq. because it became kind of a popular line for the PFR to call the Flopraise, then shove over the turnbet with TP and better. What do you think about that/ can you confirm this? How do you propose to handle the spot in the preflop-caller's shoes?

thx in advance and hoping for more great vids in the near future

in the actual hand i might c/f a medium sized flush but i might still turn asmall flush into a bluff. id use the same betsize on the turn most of the time

what to do after c/r the flop w/ a FD is an interesting question these days. depending on image, depth, and a variety of other factors, c/c and bet/something are usually your best options. the leveling factors might be a little too complex to explain in this post at the moment

Andrew

Time Link to 00:10:39

Really? u are balancing a betsize @ 1knl. Seems ott.

Time Link to 00:30:22

Jesus christ, do we not have some serious betsizing considerations here? A jam is a pretty insane overbet imo.

Time Link to 00:31:05

scratch that my bad, diddnt see he was short

bash up baluga day backfiring imo

Time Link to 00:20:03

954ss flop and you c/f after 3betting PF from the blinds against moi-rhums:

Do you actually balance your flop checking range in spots like this in some way? I agree that it's fine to c/f this flop but overall you obviously can not just give up every time you check this flop OOP after 3betting PF.

So basically what I'm wondering is:

- what kind of hands are you c/c'ing on this flop with?
- what kind of hands are you c/raising for value with (if any because you'll usually CB with your sets, OPs and stuff like 54 I assume)?
- do you ever c/r this flop as a bluff?

obviously can not just give up every time you check this flop OOP after 3betting PF.

just to play devils advocate, why is that obvious?

Andrew

It is "obvious" because if you ALWAYS give up when you not CB in these spots you are basically giving up the initial advantage you gain by 3betting because villain can call the 3bet incredibly wide knowing that your future flop action will give away your hand in a way that allows him to play his hand close to perfectly on the flop and on later streets.

Does that make sense?

Hi Balugawhale, i didn't watch the video yet but im a big fan of all your videos and stuff so im sure it's great.

I have some questions not about this video though, but your general teachings of 3bet pot play, i would really appreciate it if u had a little look.

1) You seem to advocate cbetting very often, but you also say there isn't much fold equity in 3bet pots, this has me puzzled a little bit.

2) Secondly you will 3bet a lot in possition which i think is fine, but iv heard people say that when a reg calls your 3bet OOP, they often have TT+ so it isn't good to cbet unless it's an A or Khi flop. I play 100NL, and almost everyone there(including the regs) call 3bets OOP, and i get really confused about which boards im suppose to cbet or not, and end up just checking back and giving up a lot to their turn stabs. Is this just about classing your opponents bad aggressive bad passive and good aggressive, then cbetting 100% vs the bad players until youv been check-raised or floated OOP 3-4 times, and vs the regs just giving up until youv been shown a hand like KQo or if theyv called you OOP 2-3 times in short period?

3) Another thing, and the thing that has me most confused is that iv heard some people say betting once and giving up in a 3bet pot is like burning money, where as you are advocating cbetting seemingly 80%+ or so, or that is the impression i get from you anyway. Barreling off can't be good either since we don't have much fold equity in 3bet pots... Aren't you just creating a lot of dead money for your opponent to steal? i can imagine cbetting a lot in OOP 3bet pots being a losing play, but i haven't really tryed it since I tend to just give up OOP when i miss with my non paired hands(ill cbet overs+backdoor flush draw or better, but thats it). Seems like im handing them money in a different way though.

Thnx very much for reading atleast.

It is "obvious" because if you ALWAYS give up when you not CB in these spots you are basically giving up the initial advantage you gain by 3betting because villain can call the 3bet incredibly wide knowing that your future flop action will give away your hand in a way that allows him to play his hand close to perfectly on the flop and on later streets.

Does that make sense?

not totally

i'd love to hear what your definition of "initial advantage" is.

Seems like if he's going to flat our 3-bets incredibly wide, we could start c-betting more? valuebetting more thinly?

Andrew

Hi Balugawhale, i didn't watch the video yet but im a big fan of all your videos and stuff so im sure it's great.

I have some questions not about this video though, but your general teachings of 3bet pot play, i would really appreciate it if u had a little look.

1) You seem to advocate cbetting very often, but you also say there isn't much fold equity in 3bet pots, this has me puzzled a little bit.

2) Secondly you will 3bet a lot in possition which i think is fine, but iv heard people say that when a reg calls your 3bet OOP, they often have TT+ so it isn't good to cbet unless it's an A or Khi flop. I play 100NL, and almost everyone there(including the regs) call 3bets OOP, and i get really confused about which boards im suppose to cbet or not, and end up just checking back and giving up a lot to their turn stabs. Is this just about classing your opponents bad aggressive bad passive and good aggressive, then cbetting 100% vs the bad players until youv been check-raised or floated OOP 3-4 times, and vs the regs just giving up until youv been shown a hand like KQo or if theyv called you OOP 2-3 times in short period?

3) Another thing, and the thing that has me most confused is that iv heard some people say betting once and giving up in a 3bet pot is like burning money, where as you are advocating cbetting seemingly 80%+ or so, or that is the impression i get from you anyway. Barreling off can't be good either since we don't have much fold equity in 3bet pots... Aren't you just creating a lot of dead money for your opponent to steal? i can imagine cbetting a lot in OOP 3bet pots being a losing play, but i haven't really tryed it since I tend to just give up OOP when i miss with my non paired hands(ill cbet overs+backdoor flush draw or better, but thats it). Seems like im handing them money in a different way though.

Thnx very much for reading atleast.

fold equity refers to getting your opponent to fold an actual hand, not to folding his air. So, while we have less fold equity, there is also more dead money to collect.

If someone's calling your 3-bets OOP, depolarize, c-bet then and v-bet them mercilessly, if they play back too much then stop c-betting as much, pretty simple.

c-betting and giving up when called in a 3-bet pot is NOT burning money, like all things, it simply depends.

Andrew