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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by FoxwoodsFiend (High Stakes)

Very nice video. I have a question regarding the AQ hand 19 minutes inside the video.
Flop is: 2 2 J - If we just call villain's flop bet the pot on the turn will be 4200 and villain will have ~5000 back.

What if our plan if the turn is a brick, lets say the 3, we check again and villain bets 3500...
Do we then get it in?

in the upper left table you repop with KJss bb/sb vs alexmoon's sb open... would you consider this three betting a depolarized range? how would you handle a reasonable fourbet there?

Yeah, I'd say it's 3betting a depolarized range. So he makes it 3x, I make it 10x, say he makes it like 28x and we're 250 bb deep..I'd def be calling.

in the upper left table you repop with KJss bb/sb vs alexmoon's sb open... would you consider this three betting a depolarized range? how would you handle a reasonable fourbet there?

Of course this depolarizes our 3betting range (but that's not necessarily a good thing); I would probably flat a 4bet in bvb

In the 8Tss on table 1 - on the river, this seems like a pretty good spot to bet with 8T, mostly to clean up our equity vs slightly better hands like 99, TT, even QJ if it cbets.

Once the flush hits and we don't bet turn, its pretty much impossible for us to have air here, and villain rarely takes this line with a hand stronger than Jx - why not bet 8T to fold him off any slightly better hand?

Is there any downside to betting here? Its highly unlikely he'll C/R bluff given how flop + turn played.

a) It's possible he's check/calling Kx because he figures you're folding worse hands
b) he may not fold Jx (although I think he does)
c) Once you show that you're willing to bluff a hand with as much showdown value as we have in a small-sized pot, it really hurts your ability to bluff in all future small pots. Random delayed floats are one thing, but if now your opponent can tell himself "well he can also have any pair" the bluffs are going to stop working as often and you can't do much about it by expanding your value-bet range because all he's doing is expanding his calling range to about what you're value-betting now (he starts calling with medium Jx, so you can't exploit that by value-betting more Jx yourself except for maybe JQ/TJ)

ty, glad you enjoyed it.

So the only question we need to ask ourselves is if we're ahead of his calling range. Since we obv are, then we just want to bet the biggest amount that we think he'll call. And we're ignoring balance and bet sizing tells since we're assuming he's a recreational player. So yeah, 600 is way too small imo because he's just never folding if he has a pair since a pair = a boat (zeebo theorem).

I agree with Chipchucker here; don't give unknowns too much credit and leave money on the tablef or balancing purposes

In the 8Tss on table 1 - on the river, this seems like a pretty good spot to bet with 8T, mostly to clean up our equity vs slightly better hands like 99, TT, even QJ if it cbets.

Once the flush hits and we don't bet turn, its pretty much impossible for us to have air here, and villain rarely takes this line with a hand stronger than Jx - why not bet 8T to fold him off any slightly better hand?

Is there any downside to betting here? Its highly unlikely he'll C/R bluff given how flop + turn played.

I think you make a good point. We do have a lot of SD value because I think when alex checks the turn, he's often just giving up w/ air (AT, 33, etc) because given our dynamic, he's not expecting me to fold a hand like Jx.

But at the same time, our range for betting the river is Kx, flushes, QTs (non hearts that didn't bet turn) and made hands turned into bluffs. I think he'd expect me to just showdown any marginal made hand I have at this point, so he's very likely to fold something like AJ here if he played it that way. So yeah, I like your line.

Very nice video. I have a question regarding the AQ hand 19 minutes inside the video.
Flop is: 2 2 J - If we just call villain's flop bet the pot on the turn will be 4200 and villain will have ~5000 back.

What if our plan if the turn is a brick, lets say the 3, we check again and villain bets 3500...
Do we then get it in?

Yeah, we're getting it in. I mean, he can be bluffing since we just look like 55-TT and he may expect us to fold those since his image was really clean at this point. He can also have a bunch of hearts which we have dominated. All the hearts that are possible are 54, 65, 76, 87, 98, T9, T8, 97, 86, 75, 64, 53, K3-KT for 20 combos possible. We've also got great pot equity even if we are behind (have 25% equity against KK, 33% equity against KJ, etc) which is pretty huge.

Yeah, we're getting it in. I mean, he can be bluffing since we just look like 55-TT and he may expect us to fold those since his image was really clean at this point. He can also have a bunch of hearts which we have dominated. All the hearts that are possible are 54, 65, 76, 87, 98, T9, T8, 97, 86, 75, 64, 53, K3-KT for 20 combos possible. We've also got great pot equity even if we are behind (have 25% equity against KK, 33% equity against KJ, etc) which is pretty huge.

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Very very good video. thx

I have a question regarding the 54s hand 33 minutes inside the video.
I think it is a good point that he very often got a draw here compared to value-hands. But even though we give him a lot of flushdraws we are still a underdog equity-wise against his hand-range.
So given that isn't it better just to fold the flop?

I mean against a range of:
88, 44,
T9
JT
QT
QJ
A9
AT
AJ
AQ
- We only got 33% equity

Another problem imo is that if he got a backdoor FD like AT he will be able to move us of our hand 10/10 times when he double-barrel on a diamond turn.
And as you said he will rarely have air in his range

I also have another side-question.
If the turn is a brick, lets say a 2 and villain checks to us.
Do you then bet to protect our hand? And how much do you bet if you do?

If you check back a 2 turn I think it is inconsistent with our flop call.... As villain then will realize his equity, and a sometimes (although it rarely happens) will be able to bluff some rivers.
Do you agree or am I way off in my assumptions?

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Why did you click run it twice before getting all in with the draw? What do you think you're gaining by reducing your variance in this particular spot but not by doing it overall?

I have a question regarding the 54s hand 33 minutes inside the video.
I think it is a good point that he very often got a draw here compared to value-hands. But even though we give him a lot of flushdraws we are still a underdog equity-wise against his hand-range.
So given that isn't it better just to fold the flop?

I mean against a range of:
88, 44,
T9
JT
QT
QJ
A9
AT
AJ
AQ
- We only got 33% equity

Another problem imo is that if he got a backdoor FD like AT he will be able to move us of our hand 10/10 times when he double-barrel on a diamond turn.
And as you said he will rarely have air in his range

I also have another side-question.
If the turn is a brick, lets say a 2 and villain checks to us.
Do you then bet to protect our hand? And how much do you bet if you do?

If you check back a 2 turn I think it is inconsistent with our flop call.... As villain then will realize his equity, and a sometimes (although it rarely happens) will be able to bluff some rivers.
Do you agree or am I way off in my assumptions?

For the record, I think the flop call is bad (but thanks for putting in the work to show exactly why). If the turn is a brick and it's checked to us, of course we bet to protect; which is another reason the flop call is bad is because the hand is so vulnerable that if he check/raises top pair and then goes for the check/raise again we lost a ton of money

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I don't get the logic of check-calling and letting him keep bluffing. Probably due to the fact that personally every time I try the same the bluff gets there and I get burnt, but still I am curious...

On turn you have AA on 5423 double suited and check-call his bet with one PSB left in stacks.

What do you do if river is a spade (he had K9 spades IIRC) and he bets? What if it's a club and same action?

What is your check raising range on that turn? What %? You probably have a check folding range, too, what is it? (and how big % wise?)

His flush draw gets there about 20%. If you always call his shove in spade river (and if you don't, you are folding a straight on half of the river cards), he is almost getting close enough implied odds with his 520 turn bet since you don't raise hands even as strong as a straights. Add to that the fact that you fold turn some % makes his play +EV. What I am getting at is, aren't you making his life all too easy by just check calling there? Check raising is one PSB, why is this raise too much?

I don't get the logic of check-calling and letting him keep bluffing. Probably due to the fact that personally every time I try the same the bluff gets there and I get burnt, but still I am curious...

On turn you have AA on 5423 double suited and check-call his bet with one PSB left in stacks.

What do you do if river is a spade (he had K9 spades IIRC) and he bets? What if it's a club and same action?

What is your check raising range on that turn? What %? You probably have a check folding range, too, what is it? (and how big % wise?)

His flush draw gets there about 20%. If you always call his shove in spade river (and if you don't, you are folding a straight on half of the river cards), he is almost getting close enough implied odds with his 520 turn bet since you don't raise hands even as strong as a straights. Add to that the fact that you fold turn some % makes his play +EV. What I am getting at is, aren't you making his life all too easy by just check calling there? Check raising is one PSB, why is this raise too much?

giving up free cards to draws (when you don't really have too much reason to necessarily believe your opponent even has a draw) isn't as big a concern as not getting in a ton of money drawing dead; if he bet/calls he's got a 6 so exercising some pot control is called for. jamming in money when you're not folding out better or getting called by worse just isn't a good idea. as for what do we do if a spade peels? i don't know; probably call because people rep either flush draw that hits often enough so even if he could have spades he could also have busted clubs

i don't think we should have a jamming range here other than the nuts because you only get bet/called by a 6 and it's good to balance with your 6x hands so that your hand isn't face up as Ax when you check/call the turn

On the 54s hand at ~33:40 where you get c/r on the flop in a 3b pot and 3 barreled, can you explain why he can't have Kx here at least some percentage of the time?

Unless you have a rock solid read on that guy, surely he would be doing this with KQ/AK at least some of the time for thin value/to mix things up, right?


great video btw, really love hearing you two talk about poker.