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#### NoWayFolding

3807 posts
Joined 03/2008

River bet size is awful. Gets him to induce lots of stuff like 65, 4x, doesnt get value from Qx and 2nd pocket pairs.

He doesnt have a 3 in his range so he is repping FH here. Id call and expect to see pocket pair turned into bluff often enough. He is basically repping <12combos.

#### Allermand_DK

794 posts
Joined 11/2008

Vil's raise river %, WWSF %, Agfq river would be something, to take into account whether to fold or call imo.

You're getting about 2:1 on a call OTR, so the question to ask youself: Is Villian having 2/3 value combos and 1/3 bluffs vs. you hand? In other words are you beating 33% or more of Vil's range OTR --> call

#### terp

1996 posts
Joined 01/2008

I think that is really terrible so I expect most regs to think so.

stomping out projection is one of the biggest hurdles uNL players have to clear, imo, before they start really crushing and moving up

#### Allermand_DK

794 posts
Joined 11/2008

Vil's raise river %, WWSF %, Agfq river would be something, to take into account whether to fold or call imo.

You're getting about 2:1 on a call OTR, so the question to ask youself: Is Villian having 2/3 value combos and 1/3 bluffs vs. you hand? In other words are you beating 33% or more of Vil's range OTR --> call

This is how I understand balance, is this the proper way to wiev balance terp? Maybe a bit off topic sorry..

#### terp

1996 posts
Joined 01/2008

that's just pot odds, sir

#### Allermand_DK

794 posts
Joined 11/2008

that's just pot odds, sir

Okay sir guess what I was asking: Can I use this question by reframe it as: Is this distribution 33% bluff and 67% value likely to be accurate for this Vil's range? (100% balanced) In other words use this method to estimated how balanced this Vil is?

Thanks..

898 posts
Joined 02/2012

Okay sir guess what I was asking: Can I use this question by reframe it as: Is this distribution 33% bluff and 67% value likely to be accurate for this Vil's range? (100% balanced) In other words use this method to estimated how balanced this Vil is?

Thanks..

Good question. Although I think it's impossible to have 66% value and 33% bluff in your range in every single hand you play. I think you should use this distribution over a total of a large sample and not in every single hand because it's just impossible. Is that correct??

#### Allermand_DK

794 posts
Joined 11/2008

I was referring to Villians range ;-)
, IMO it's all we need to know in order to call profitable, but when we raise or bet we have to think about balance I in our range..

898 posts
Joined 02/2012

I was referring to Villians range ;-)
, IMO it's all we need to know in order to call profitable, but when we raise or bet we have to think about balance I in our range..

I know, I was talking about villains range. It doesnt matter if its our range or villains. It's just not possible to have this distribution on every board.

#### djdoodoo

65 posts
Joined 05/2010

This topic just went way over my head. Mainly what terp is saying. Any resources you'd suggest I read before I try it again to better understand it? What do you mean by projection?

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